knox
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Post by knox on Mar 23, 2023 19:48:48 GMT
The pins are correct, confirmed by the original electrical diagram and as I removed the wires for connecting to the ambient light from other original wires of a golf 7 GTI, I connected exactly the same: pin 3 blue wire, pin 8 white wire and pin 5 brown wire mass that I connected to a common mass point. Strange is giving values on the passenger door and when I do the door lighting test it lights up. Driver door gives error and is wired like passenger door.
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on Mar 23, 2023 23:53:00 GMT
knox : As you will agree - a forum like this is a very bad medium for diagnostic analysis!!
I have absolutely no doubt about your conviction that the coding and the wiring are correct for both door modules. Nevertheless, the driver door isn't working properly and as I understand, the hex42 module is reporting an error (maybe more than one error). So something is clearly amiss with this project!!
If you want to progress this matter beyond repeated statements of conviction - it might be useful to post-up actual information (no offense intended). Please provide a copy of the actual long-code strings for both door modules on this car and also, please include a copy of the SCAN report - so we can see the actual error(s).
If you are not aware how to digitize the SCAN data, do this:
Don
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knox
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Post by knox on Mar 25, 2023 16:29:58 GMT
I found the problem and I didn't even remember the main part, because it was the facelift I thought it would already be compatible with ambient light but when checking references and pins I came to the conclusion that the BCM is not compatible, I will have to upgrade to a BCM of Highline. I appreciate all the help so far.
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Post by sofro1988 on Mar 26, 2023 7:27:12 GMT
Hi, I have tries to modify afs static light but it doesn’t work. I have led pxa. Cornering lights always switch on under 40km/h
Module 09 Central Electrics
Security access -> 31347
Adaptation
Submenu - Static AFS light
- Obere Geschwindigkeitsschwelle -> 50 o 60 (Default -> 40km/)
- Abdimmgeschwindigkeit -> da 0 a 127 (Default -> 50.0 %)
- Unterer Lenkradwinkel -> 60 (Default -> 80°)
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Post by andreamala on Mar 28, 2023 13:58:30 GMT
Me too same problem
Coded for 100km/h and 10°
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Post by mattia23 on Apr 18, 2023 21:57:52 GMT
Good evening everyone, can anyone tell me the coding for the driving profile key on the Golf 7.5 GTI?
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Post by andrewsgolf7 on Apr 19, 2023 15:08:27 GMT
Hi anybody knows how to activate front car-pace indicators with coding but just front no tail.
The front turn signals on the mirrors and the headlights blink one by one. Thanks
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Post by chrispie on May 7, 2023 18:19:20 GMT
Good evening everyone, can anyone tell me the coding for the driving profile key on the Golf 7.5 GTI? It’s almost impossible to perform this coding yourself. Last Friday I had this done bij someone with ODIS VW factory access. I also had the proper license document making this possible. I watched his laptop doing the magic; as it was coding all relevant control units one by one, my AID lightened up like a Christmas tree. After some half hour it was done. My point is: the Dirving Modes retrofit affects so many control units and the exact alterations are only known to VW according to the guy who helped me with that. Due to the reprogramming of my 5F I not only have to re-patch it ( only 5 valid fecs + the new 0940008 for drive modes were left) but also redo most of my other adaptions. One VERY PARTICULAR exception: the Apple CarPlay, to my surprise was the only thing NOT being removed from my MIB altough the 00060800 FEC is showing up as invalid.  |
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Post by dropthehammer on May 9, 2023 20:05:02 GMT
First time poster coming in here and seeing your post. Thanks for the knowledge it's VERY enlightening.
So before I started changing ANYTHING. I did a full "backup". Then did a few long codes, reverted them and then applied all the OCA's thinking it was the "safe" way to do most of the mods. However now I'm worried I wont be able to restore from backup because it seems all the backup did was create a log entry or something?
How do I just revert back to stock if I wanted to?
Main reason I ask is... even though I did quite a few mods successfully. I get a fault in central electrics and I cant chase it down. My assumption is that i need to re-activate the parking light (no idea where that is) the low beam (where?) , parking light left and right (again where?).
Also.. I mean I do have lowbeams etc, I have driven the car at night. I'm just confused as to how it says I dont have lowbeams because I certainly do and I see the high beam assist doing "things" with the adaptive lights during startup.
U101400 - Control module incorrectly coded
static
Priority - 2
Malfunction frequency counter - 1
Unlearning counter - 134
km-Mileage - 33760 km
Terminal 15 status - On
Terminal 50 status - Off
Voltage - 12.4 V
Outside air temperature - 15.5 °C
Status Bremslichtschalter (HW) - Off
Status Bremslichtschalter (CAN) - Off
Off - operated
Parking light - not activated
Automatic high beam assist - not activated
Low beam - not activated
Parking light left - not activated
Parking light right - not activated
Letzte Weckursache/ Werte [00;2E] - keine Störschutzursache
CAN-Bus aktiv - On
date - 2023-05-06 01:29:38
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Post by chrispie on May 9, 2023 20:29:07 GMT
First time poster coming in here and seeing your post. Thanks for the knowledge it's VERY enlightening.
So before I started changing ANYTHING. I did a full "backup". Then did a few long codes, reverted them and then applied all the OCA's thinking it was the "safe" way to do most of the mods. However now I'm worried I wont be able to restore from backup because it seems all the backup did was create a log entry or something?
How do I just revert back to stock if I wanted to?
Main reason I ask is... even though I did quite a few mods successfully. I get a fault in central electrics and I cant chase it down. My assumption is that i need to re-activate the parking light (no idea where that is) the low beam (where?) , parking light left and right (again where?).
Also.. I mean I do have lowbeams etc, I have driven the car at night. I'm just confused as to how it says I dont have lowbeams because I certainly do and I see the high beam assist doing "things" with the adaptive lights during startup.
U101400 - Control module incorrectly coded
static
Priority - 2
Malfunction frequency counter - 1
Unlearning counter - 134
km-Mileage - 33760 km
Terminal 15 status - On
Terminal 50 status - Off
Voltage - 12.4 V
Outside air temperature - 15.5 °C
Status Bremslichtschalter (HW) - Off
Status Bremslichtschalter (CAN) - Off
Off - operated
Parking light - not activated
Automatic high beam assist - not activated
Low beam - not activated
Parking light left - not activated
Parking light right - not activated
Letzte Weckursache/ Werte [00;2E] - keine Störschutzursache
CAN-Bus aktiv - On
date - 2023-05-06 01:29:38
You can always look back in your history for what you have changed and revert it to the previous state…. Look in the [GARAGE] tab below on the left in the OBD11 app Cheers |
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on May 9, 2023 22:23:46 GMT
First time poster coming in here and seeing your post. Thanks for the knowledge it's VERY enlightening. So before I started changing ANYTHING. I did a full "backup". Then did a few long codes, reverted them and then applied all the OCA's thinking it was the "safe" way to do most of the mods. However now I'm worried I wont be able to restore from backup because it seems all the backup did was create a log entry or something?
How do I just revert back to stock if I wanted to? So for your question - I'm really not sure how you created the backup file - but if you look at in my response to knox , you will see on the second screenshot that the filter options contain 2 x entries for the term "Backup". My suggestion is that you de-select ALL entries except the 2 x Backup options. If the file has been created properly, the History response should contain the detailed module information.
As for your thought-process that OCA's are a "safe" way to do most of the mods - alas I don't share your conclusion. In fact, my personal view is the very opposite (I NEVER use OCAs because they are "unsafe" - IMO, of course).
The BIG problem with OCAs is that they leave no records of the changes that they make. OCAs are quick and easy and in lots of cases they work OK - I guess! However, when OCAs fail (and they do fail - there are lots of examples in this forum) - there are no change records that can be used to revert the settings back to their original values. Very "unsafe" - IMO!!
Main reason I ask is... even though I did quite a few mods successfully. I get a fault in central electrics and I cant chase it down. My assumption is that i need to re-activate the parking light (no idea where that is) the low beam (where?) , parking light left and right (again where?).
Again - if the fault resulted from the application of OCAs - I suggest that you contact the help-desk because only the deities on the OBD11 mother-ship know what changes were made Also.. I mean I do have lowbeams etc, I have driven the car at night. I'm just confused as to how it says I dont have lowbeams because I certainly do and I see the high beam assist doing "things" with the adaptive lights during startup.
U101400 - Control module incorrectly coded
static
Priority - 2
Malfunction frequency counter - 1
Unlearning counter - 134
km-Mileage - 33760 km
Terminal 15 status - On
Terminal 50 status - Off
Voltage - 12.4 V
Outside air temperature - 15.5 °C
Status Bremslichtschalter (HW) - Off
Status Bremslichtschalter (CAN) - Off
Off - operated
Parking light - not activated
Automatic high beam assist - not activated
Low beam - not activated
Parking light left - not activated
Parking light right - not activated
Letzte Weckursache/ Werte [00;2E] - keine Störschutzursache
CAN-Bus aktiv - On
date - 2023-05-06 01:29:38
hmm......... the fault record clearly says that the module has been incorrectly coded. You have not included the header data for this fault, so I'm not sure which module is in error - but I assume this fault refers to the central electrics module @ address hex09.
Also, the particular error in your post makes no mention of how the incorrect coding has affected the module - so I'm not sure why your confusion centers on "parking lights" and "low beam". I suggest that you don't truncate the SCAN report when posting-up a copy because others read these reports differently.
Again, the situation on this car is very unclear - but as a general comment it's not unusual for faults to be generated about a function that appears to be working. The self diagnostic facility on this car is very sophisticated, however as you will appreciate - it has its limits.
My hunch (guess really) is that whatever has triggered your focus on the the car's lighting functions has been caused by the inability of the self-checking procedure in the module to pass ALL tests related to the lighting activities in the car. This failure could be as arcane as an incorrect entry in a memory location in the module related to the car's lights - or it could be something entirely different!
However and notwithstanding the fact that the car's lights might appear to be operating correctly - there is some intelligence in the freeze-frame data that signifies the severity of this fault.
Look at the fault detail in your post - notice Priority - 2. VW create a 6 x level assessment of the importance of faults - your module error is rated in VW's view as the 2nd highest priority!!
Don
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Post by dropthehammer on May 10, 2023 0:24:37 GMT
Status Bremslichtschalter Yes, your reply to Knox certainly changed my mind about OCAs being safe... certainly they aren't now that I know the "backup" is little more than a breadcrumb trail.... Also, the particular error in your post makes no mention of how the incorrect coding has affected the module - so I'm not sure why your confusion centers on "parking lights" and "low beam". I suggest that you don't truncate the SCAN report when posting-up a copy because others read these reports differently. I'm probably confused and reading OBD11 wrong.... I'm new to this but not to programming. you're very helpful so far! I'll try to post a full log here ASAP.... let me see what I can get out of the scans. I feel like i'm missing some more detailed view. Look at the fault detail in your post - notice Priority - 2. VW create a 6 x level assessment of the importance of faults - your module error is rated in VW's view as the 2nd highest priority!! Look at the fault detail in your post - notice Priority - 2. VW create a 6 x level assessment of the importance of faults - your module error is rated in VW's view as the 2nd highest priority!! |
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Post by dropthehammer on May 11, 2023 23:40:47 GMT
So I decided to go into history and back everything out… in order.. one by one.
Change, clear code, restart, scan again….
I went through everything back to stock and it turns it out it was one of the first apps i installed.
Urban Joke v2…. I also paid several times to test it on and off just to make sure. All in all this cost me $35 or so in credits and now I’m kinda miffed I spent the $30 or so to turn all of that stuff on in the first place.
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on May 13, 2023 0:03:36 GMT
dropthehammer : It's great that through methodical, careful processing of data, you were able to identify the cause of the error. My guess from the information in your first post is that the fault was first generated in fault memory on "2023-05-06" @ "01:29:38" - so not too long ago!
I have no connection to the deities on the OBD11 mother-ship - but as for the expense that has been incurred in this case, I suggest that you consider it to be a valuable learning exercise; don't use OCAs unless you are prepared to accept the risk of lots of hassle if (when?) the tweak goes pear-shape!! Yes, I'm aware that this is little solace from a financial perspective - but knowledge can come at a cost!
As for unwinding the OCA changes - I hope that you made a back-up of the central electrics module prior to implementing the OCA
Don
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Post by dropthehammer on May 13, 2023 23:39:21 GMT
I do have a full backup… but the problem is I can’t really figure out how to restore. I thought it was a simple and well documented process but the FAQ I found is all made in the old blue block interface and looks nothing like the current IOS app.
I don’t understand why for OBD11 a giant RESTORE button / functionality isn’t implemented.
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Post by dropthehammer on May 13, 2023 23:45:29 GMT
After checking the full backups “which gave me green check marks after finishing (it took like 30 mins).
It looks like they only backed up 4 random and mostly useless modules…. Not including central electric. So I guess I’m kinda hosed.
I ran the procedure 4 times at that time and received a completed message. Each has random devices and never a true “full” state.
I guess I’m hosed. The way OBD eleven is marketed i was hoping for less hassle than VCDS. I’ve used vcds many times before and trust it but I don’t own my own cable and was kind of disappointed with the vin lock so I thought this would be easier. Boy was I wrong. Can’t trust the built in functions or marketed functionalities and all your debugging has to be through a phone interface unless you want to email yourself items to check via notepad++ compare or something.
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on May 14, 2023 0:31:11 GMT
dropthehammer: Bummer!! Without a back-up of the hex09 module before changes were made by the OCAs, stuff gets a lot more complicated. I understand your point about VCDS - but it also isn't without problems. Truth is that both OBD11 and VCDS have their good-points and their disadvantages. When a user is in the beginning part of the learning curve, these problems often appear to be fundamental!! So - if you are prepared to make a back-up of the hex09 module in its present form and you post-up the file (as an attachment) - I'll have a look through the channel database for any obvious signs of errors Don
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Post by dropthehammer on May 16, 2023 1:04:30 GMT
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Post by dropthehammer on May 16, 2023 1:30:41 GMT
Was trying to code the bottom, and the bold items I cannot seem to find via OBDeleven. Any ideas? Specifically where is section 15 and 16 as listed?
Rain Closing
Select Control unit 09 (Central Electrics)
Security access
Access code 31347
Adaptation
(15) Access Control 2-Regenschliessen_ein_aus
Value: Permanent
(16) Access Control 2-Regenschliessen_art
Value: Permanent
(28) Zugriffskontrolle 2-Menuesteuerung Regenschliessen
Value:Aktif
Select Control unit 09 (Central Electrics)
Control unit Long Coding
Subsystem: Rain / Light Sensor (RLS)
Byte 0
Bit 1-Bit 2 DeActivate
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Post by dropthehammer on May 16, 2023 2:35:27 GMT
Ok I found it… was in a submenu called ZV Komfort. ![]() |
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Post by dropthehammer on May 16, 2023 3:43:26 GMT
Had several hours to do a lot of manual coding tonight and I was super successful with 15 or so mods throwing no codes and all verified working.. thanks thread!
couple of questions though…
I have a USA 2020 SE PP with the analog tach/speedo dash..
1. Five brake light mod, any guides there? So many posts but not a clear answer that seems to be verified for my model year.
2. High intensity / emergency braking lights - for me this really increases safety but same problem as number 1….
3. Interior color mods…. I’ve got the adaptive lighting package. But there seem to be many ways of doing this so I’m a bit intimidated at the moment. Is there one solid guide for this? Maybe VWJAP? worried because most people I see with this have autobahn or R cars and not my model year OR they have digital dash not analog.
thanks again for all the help!
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on May 16, 2023 7:05:04 GMT
dropthehammer : hmm...... I hate Apple stuff with a vengeance and I reckon that the real genius wasn't Steve Jobs - it was the other Steve!! Anyhow - I managed to convert your .pages file to a more Windows friendly format. So, if I'm reading your latest post correctly, I assume that you have managed to solve your problem - well done! Five Brake light tweak:Looking through your backup file - there appear to be 3 x options for this car. - Option 1 -the inner lamps on the outer tail light cluster operate as Brake lights (as well as Parking lights)
- Option 2 -the lamps on the inner tail light cluster operate as Brake lights (as well as Parking lights)
- Option 3 - both Option 1 and Option 2 (technically this is the Seven Brake light tweak!!)
Note: I use the term Parking Light (PL) - but you might use "position lights", or "side lights" (it's the lighting function that illuminates with low-beam and when the rotary light switch is on the  position)
However, regardless of which option you select -there is a changed dynamic from the factory arrangement that must be applied for this tweak.
The OEM set-up for this car has been designed so that the driver at the rear knows when the brake pedal is pressed by the position of the brake light which illuminates fully. This position is the outer lamp on the outer tail light clusters.
Importantly for this Yankee car and as factory coded, the Brake light does NOT participate in the Parking Light function - meaning that the Brake light on the outer cluster illuminates fully ONLY when the brake pedal is pushed and when the turn-signal operates on a particular car-side - and at no other time!
And - the Parking Light lamps on the tails of this car also illuminate fully when low-beam lights switch-ON, or when the PL position is selected with the rotary light switch.
I hope you are still following my explanation - OK, think about what MUST happen if any of the PL lamps on the tails also operate as Brake lights. If the PL function is not altered on the changed lamps and the low-beam lights have been switched-ON before the Brake pedal is pressed, the lamps will already be illuminated fully. So, when the Brake pedal is pressed, the driver at the rear will notice no change in behavior of the inner lamps - which means that the 5 x brake lights won't operate when the PL function is enabled!!
To fix this, lamp illumination during the PL function must be dimmed so that the lamps fully illuminate ONLY when the Brake pedal is pressed. I've chosen 10% illumination for PL function in my suggestion below (Dimmwert CD) - but you can change this if it's too low. A word of caution if you do increase the PL - err on the low-side!!
For ALL options, the changes are: - Lasttyp > 34 - LED Bremsleuchten
- Lichtfunktion A > Bremslicht
- Dimmwert AB > 100
- Lichtfunktion C > Standlicht allgemein (Schlusslicht; Positionslicht; Begrenzungslicht)
- Dimmwert CD > 10
Apply these changes to the following Leuchte-sets: - Option 1:Leuchte23SL HLC10 =inner lamp on left outer taillight and Leuchte24SL HRA65 = inner lamp on right outer taillight
- Option 2 :Leuchte17TFL R BLK SRB3 TFL R BLK SR KC3 = left inner tail light and Leuchte16BLK SLB35 BLK SL KC9 = right inner tail light
- Option 3 : apply to all 4 x Leuchte-sets above
Don
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Post by dropthehammer on May 16, 2023 7:17:09 GMT
dropthehammer : hmm...... I hate Apple stuff with a vengeance and I reckon that the real genius wasn't Steve Jobs - it was the other Steve!! Anyhow - I managed to convert your .pages file to a more Windows friendly format. Damn.. I didnt even realize the iphone did that... All I wanted to do was edit the giant text dump. So tomorrow I think i'm going to set out with my camera on a tripod to record before and after 2 mods..
The Ethan Joke and your suggested mod. See what I think looks better / is safer. One thing that does seem to work is the emergency braking lights. I was able to lock the brakes on some gravel earlier and the long coding I got from VW Vortex worked perfectly there (the flashers as I was "rapidly decelerating" in ABS on the dirt, and the hazards coming on upon stop until I released the brake and moved forward.
So now I guess I get to choose after I see how each of them perform with parking, hazards, DRL, left and right blinker and brake lights with and without blinkers.
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Post by vwjap on May 16, 2023 8:14:12 GMT
Had several hours to do a lot of manual coding tonight and I was super successful with 15 or so mods throwing no codes and all verified working.. thanks thread! couple of questions though… I have a USA 2020 SE PP with the analog tach/speedo dash.. 1. Five brake light mod, any guides there? So many posts but not a clear answer that seems to be verified for my model year. 2. High intensity / emergency braking lights - for me this really increases safety but same problem as number 1…. 3. Interior color mods…. I’ve got the adaptive lighting package. But there seem to be many ways of doing this so I’m a bit intimidated at the moment. Is there one solid guide for this? Maybe VWJAP? worried because most people I see with this have autobahn or R cars and not my model year OR they have digital dash not analog. thanks again for all the help! Anologe tach shouldn’t matter, or you could just not enable the dash to change colour, I know from about 2018 they changed some colour menu discriptors (30 colour mod) and on some newer cars they stopped some of the switches working (from what I read) but here’s my video anyhow |
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Post by dropthehammer on May 18, 2023 0:48:40 GMT
Bummer… turns out my ambient lighting won’t change color. I was able to get the color menu up but only the brightness would function.
Oh well, not really an issue.
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Post by vwjap on May 18, 2023 9:45:14 GMT
You know the colour change mod DOESNT change the footwell or door lights right? As they are not RGB LEDs
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medsox
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2019 GTI MK7FL Autobahn DSG 2.0L USA
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Post by medsox on May 18, 2023 14:07:09 GMT
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Post by vwjap on May 18, 2023 15:33:27 GMT
Be better og using Audi rgb’s
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Post by hmizaou on Jul 3, 2023 16:58:13 GMT
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Post by chrispie on Jul 3, 2023 17:58:30 GMT
The car on the photo has LED lights, not xenon. I can tell because I have 2 Golf cars, 1 black MK 7 with Xenon lights. The xenon inner lights have very small running-lights in the centre. The inner surrounding U shape does not have a lightbulb like the outer one has.  The other one is a white MK 7.5 with LED lights, like the photo you refer to.  This one has both inner and outer running lights surrounding the normal lights, these light up simultaneously and switch between white and orange when using the turning signal. The inner and outer central LED lights are part of a automatic lighting system where the car is always on high beams but automatically avoids blinding front traffic. Hope this helps…. |
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