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Post by skibumdc on Dec 7, 2023 21:57:26 GMT
SO, this will sound long winded, but this is stereo upgrade related.
Essentially in MK8 Golf R, if you take the outputs of the factory HK amp, and utilize them in a LOC, or other amp, it will cause the computer, on start-up, to generate 2 errors.
1) Brake maneuvering unavailable
2) Park Distance may not be available.
This is related to a factory bootup check for speaker load on the output of the amp BC VW has decided to thro errors if speakers are not present. Probably b/c the parking safety sensors wouldn't make any noise if the amp/speakers weren't present.
In fact, the sensors DO operate, and sound still works, BUT when the car turns on it does a scan on the load generated by speakers to the factory amp. When it sees ANY different load than what is expected, it throws that error. My stereo shop has tried many different ways to kill this issue, including manual load generating resistors, and the latest software for the Mosconi amp that will scan the factory amp output and generate the proper load response back to eliminate the issue. HOWEVER, it doesn't happen BEFORE the computer does its initial scan for speakers. If you reboot the infotainment system after the amp has properly generated the load signal, the errors are removed. It's really a timing issue.
We've also tried the mk7 ways of telling the system NOT to use the factory amp, but that fails as well.
SO my question remains, and yes it will probably be a manual coding, IS there a way to eliminate, via OBD11, the car booting up and checking for speaker load to prevent those errors from popping up?
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Post by newty on Dec 8, 2023 9:14:54 GMT
Have a look at function_configuration_audio.
There you will find the speaker configuration where you should be able to disable the usage and therefore disable the cold check
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Post by tos on Dec 8, 2023 12:28:37 GMT
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on Dec 8, 2023 12:48:15 GMT
Hmm........ if newty suggestion isn't successful - maybe try flipping the value of the adaptation channel below in the hex5F module: - Electrical test of loudspeakers-Mode
The default setting is automatic - but I'm sure there will be an option like not active, or something similar
Don
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Post by dazmlp on Jan 2, 2024 22:05:09 GMT
SO, this will sound long winded, but this is stereo upgrade related. Essentially in MK8 Golf R, if you take the outputs of the factory HK amp, and utilize them in a LOC, or other amp, it will cause the computer, on start-up, to generate 2 errors. 1) Brake maneuvering unavailable 2) Park Distance may not be available. This is related to a factory bootup check for speaker load on the output of the amp BC VW has decided to thro errors if speakers are not present. Probably b/c the parking safety sensors wouldn't make any noise if the amp/speakers weren't present. In fact, the sensors DO operate, and sound still works, BUT when the car turns on it does a scan on the load generated by speakers to the factory amp. When it sees ANY different load than what is expected, it throws that error. My stereo shop has tried many different ways to kill this issue, including manual load generating resistors, and the latest software for the Mosconi amp that will scan the factory amp output and generate the proper load response back to eliminate the issue. HOWEVER, it doesn't happen BEFORE the computer does its initial scan for speakers. If you reboot the infotainment system after the amp has properly generated the load signal, the errors are removed. It's really a timing issue. We've also tried the mk7 ways of telling the system NOT to use the factory amp, but that fails as well. SO my question remains, and yes it will probably be a manual coding, IS there a way to eliminate, via OBD11, the car booting up and checking for speaker load to prevent those errors from popping up? Any news on this issue? I have the exact same problem after replacing the factory H/K speakers |
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Post by covailla on Mar 28, 2024 6:00:53 GMT
You need to use a proper line level converter Audiotec Fischer's Helix AAC.3 or a Connection Sli2.2. www.audiotec-fischer.de/en/helix/accessories/aac.3Or connection.eu/product/accessories/interfaces/sli-2-3/They provide a simulated speaker input that is isolate and balanced Using cheap "loc" or less expensive units don't have simulated speaker inputs, aren't start stop capable, aren't balanced. And in some case alot actually they can't handle the voltage from an OEM amplifier, and will melt down . The two above are what I use in my store all the time, no if and or buts. SO, this will sound long winded, but this is stereo upgrade related. Essentially in MK8 Golf R, if you take the outputs of the factory HK amp, and utilize them in a LOC, or other amp, it will cause the computer, on start-up, to generate 2 errors. 1) Brake maneuvering unavailable 2) Park Distance may not be available. This is related to a factory bootup check for speaker load on the output of the amp BC VW has decided to thro errors if speakers are not present. Probably b/c the parking safety sensors wouldn't make any noise if the amp/speakers weren't present. In fact, the sensors DO operate, and sound still works, BUT when the car turns on it does a scan on the load generated by speakers to the factory amp. When it sees ANY different load than what is expected, it throws that error. My stereo shop has tried many different ways to kill this issue, including manual load generating resistors, and the latest software for the Mosconi amp that will scan the factory amp output and generate the proper load response back to eliminate the issue. HOWEVER, it doesn't happen BEFORE the computer does its initial scan for speakers. If you reboot the infotainment system after the amp has properly generated the load signal, the errors are removed. It's really a timing issue. We've also tried the mk7 ways of telling the system NOT to use the factory amp, but that fails as well. SO my question remains, and yes it will probably be a manual coding, IS there a way to eliminate, via OBD11, the car booting up and checking for speaker load to prevent those errors from popping up? |
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Post by skibumdc on Mar 28, 2024 10:21:02 GMT
SO you would call a Mosconi DSP "less expensive" ? You need to use a proper line level converter Audiotec Fischer's Helix AAC.3 or a Connection Sli2.2. www.audiotec-fischer.de/en/helix/accessories/aac.3Or connection.eu/product/accessories/interfaces/sli-2-3/They provide a simulated speaker input that is isolate and balanced Using cheap "loc" or less expensive units don't have simulated speaker inputs, aren't start stop capable, aren't balanced. And in some case alot actually they can't handle the voltage from an OEM amplifier, and will melt down . The two above are what I use in my store all the time, no if and or buts. SO, this will sound long winded, but this is stereo upgrade related. Essentially in MK8 Golf R, if you take the outputs of the factory HK amp, and utilize them in a LOC, or other amp, it will cause the computer, on start-up, to generate 2 errors. 1) Brake maneuvering unavailable 2) Park Distance may not be available. This is related to a factory bootup check for speaker load on the output of the amp BC VW has decided to thro errors if speakers are not present. Probably b/c the parking safety sensors wouldn't make any noise if the amp/speakers weren't present. In fact, the sensors DO operate, and sound still works, BUT when the car turns on it does a scan on the load generated by speakers to the factory amp. When it sees ANY different load than what is expected, it throws that error. My stereo shop has tried many different ways to kill this issue, including manual load generating resistors, and the latest software for the Mosconi amp that will scan the factory amp output and generate the proper load response back to eliminate the issue. HOWEVER, it doesn't happen BEFORE the computer does its initial scan for speakers. If you reboot the infotainment system after the amp has properly generated the load signal, the errors are removed. It's really a timing issue. We've also tried the mk7 ways of telling the system NOT to use the factory amp, but that fails as well. SO my question remains, and yes it will probably be a manual coding, IS there a way to eliminate, via OBD11, the car booting up and checking for speaker load to prevent those errors from popping up? |
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Post by drez on Jun 4, 2024 13:03:03 GMT
SO, this will sound long winded, but this is stereo upgrade related. Essentially in MK8 Golf R, if you take the outputs of the factory HK amp, and utilize them in a LOC, or other amp, it will cause the computer, on start-up, to generate 2 errors. 1) Brake maneuvering unavailable 2) Park Distance may not be available. This is related to a factory bootup check for speaker load on the output of the amp BC VW has decided to thro errors if speakers are not present. Probably b/c the parking safety sensors wouldn't make any noise if the amp/speakers weren't present. In fact, the sensors DO operate, and sound still works, BUT when the car turns on it does a scan on the load generated by speakers to the factory amp. When it sees ANY different load than what is expected, it throws that error. My stereo shop has tried many different ways to kill this issue, including manual load generating resistors, and the latest software for the Mosconi amp that will scan the factory amp output and generate the proper load response back to eliminate the issue. HOWEVER, it doesn't happen BEFORE the computer does its initial scan for speakers. If you reboot the infotainment system after the amp has properly generated the load signal, the errors are removed. It's really a timing issue. We've also tried the mk7 ways of telling the system NOT to use the factory amp, but that fails as well. SO my question remains, and yes it will probably be a manual coding, IS there a way to eliminate, via OBD11, the car booting up and checking for speaker load to prevent those errors from popping up? Hello, I created an account because I had this exact same issue with my GTI with the HK system and was looking for a fix. I have successfully eliminated the front parking assist and brake maneuvering error that pops up. Using a combination of 2ohm 100watt load resistors for the midbass speakers and 4ohm 100watt load resistors for the tweeters. These simulate the stock impedance of the speakers and will not cause the error to pop up on the dash board. I still get the code error when I scan with the OBD11 module, but nothing on the dash and the speakers play the alert tone when parking too close in the front. I wired the resistors across the + and - for each speaker location to simulate a stock speaker with that impedance value. Below you will find a link to the load resistors that I used. I haven't had any issues with them getting too hot and overheating, mostly because I don't believe that the HK amp puts out nearly anywhere close to the 100 watt rating of the resistor. This fix for me is only a week old, and if the resistors did start to heat up my solution would be to wire two in series or parallel depending on the load required to double the power handling of the resistor to 200 watts. www.amazon.com/dp/B07CVRH6DF?ref=product_details&th=1If you are still struggling to find a fix, please try this and let me know if it works for you as well! |
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Post by porterhouse100 on Aug 4, 2024 21:38:56 GMT
Drez, were you installing the Focal 155/165 speakers?
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