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Post by melkool on Dec 29, 2021 10:33:59 GMT
Hi team, I have a '21 MK8 Style package with 10inch media with no navigation (it's now on 30day trial just to check it out but it doesn't worth the money) and also with ACC, Lane and Front assist, rain sensor. Is there any way to active Trafic Sign Recognition ? I was looking at MK7.5 tread but in MK8 units are called different and I have no idea what Longcoding hex are meaning.
In A5 Control Unit -> Adaptation I have something called "Road sign detection fusion mode" and "Menu for roadside fusion persistency" but both of them are empty (there are no items available for this option).
All the best.
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Post by jotjot on Dec 29, 2021 14:08:47 GMT
I have a 2020 Golf MK8 1st Edition here which has traffic sign recognition active.
I made a backup of coding and adaptation channels with vcds, if you want I can share it.
I could be able to to a backup with OBDeleven after some days if needed.
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Post by melkool on Dec 29, 2021 19:10:17 GMT
Does it also display ODO in dashboard ? It would be awsome if you could post those parts of output based on TSR.
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Post by Anderss on Dec 30, 2021 7:34:44 GMT
is the car with auto high beam assistant?
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Post by melkool on Dec 30, 2021 8:59:07 GMT
Yes, it has Auto High Beam, but there's only LED Plus, no LED Matrix.
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Post by Anderss on Dec 30, 2021 9:22:56 GMT
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Post by melkool on Dec 30, 2021 9:55:14 GMT
Mine are also Led Performance but in this part of the world they are called Led Plus (with cornering lights and bad weather as well). To be honest it seems that this functions is intentionally disabled in Eastern Europe as same package (Style) in UK, Germany and other countries has this option in Assist menu (MIB3).
Eh that's about it. But if you are so kind ... I have a colleague with also MK8 Style 1.5 eTSI but the 2020 make which does not display ODO on the main display. It doesn't care about ACC being enabled or disabled, ODO (total distance) is not showing in the dashboard. Also another thing that is a point of interest for me is to check the oil level. Yesterday at VW shop I saw one 2021 MK8 with 10" Discovery Media, same Style package which was displaying the oil level in CAR menu on MIB. Searched the Adaptation but couldn't find anything for both ODO and oil level.
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Post by newty on Dec 30, 2021 16:14:09 GMT
TSR is controlled by Swap and Feature on Demand in the camera and the gateway, so you cannot code it, as you need the specific FeC Code for your car - and likely the OCU will overwrite it.
Oil Level: Funny thing, I have discussed it with some experts a while ago. Some people say it is a bug, while others are curious it acatually works, while my expierience is that is reliable. Oil Level will show up in the cluster when opening the bonnet.
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Post by melkool on Dec 30, 2021 17:53:25 GMT
Nice one Vag  About swap/fec something funny. So my car has Wireless CarPlay, Trial Navi, trial Light Assist, lane and front assist but in MIB at "installed" is empty. And on "supported codes" i have a ton of them: 00040100 - this looks like Navigation 00060100 - Vehice Data Interface (whatever that means) 00060300 - Mirrorlink 00070400 - voice amplifier 00070500 - voice activation And some which are unknown: 00070600 00070900 00070a00 00070b00 00071c00 So TSR doesn't look like something "installable" maybe someone with H56 could help with the installed swap codes ? |
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Post by newty on Dec 30, 2021 19:27:11 GMT
Golf 8 with FoD has a different approach.
All FeCs are stored in the Gateway and forwarded to the units from there.
So the FeC 100E0F00 for TSR full mode is installed in the Gateway and forwarded the camera in this case.
You should find it in both control units, but invalid
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Post by melkool on Jan 1, 2022 20:51:50 GMT
Found this:
Traffic Sign Assist Activation
Select Control unit 5F (Information Electrical)
Adaptation
Select channel (63) vehicle function list BAP
traffic sign_ recognition_0x21
Deger=Active
Select channel (151) vehicle menu operation-
menu_display_road_sign_identification
Deger=Active
Select channel (153) vehicle menu operation-
menu_display_road_sign_identification_over_threshold
high
Deger=Active
Control unit A5 (front / advance camera)
Security access
Access Code 20103
Control unit Long Coding
Byte 1
Bit 0 Activate
"01 Traffic Sign Recognition (FTE) active"
Select Control unit 17 (Dashboard)
Control unit Long Coding
Byte 5
Bit 2 Aktivate
Control unit A5 (front / advance camera)
Adaptation
Select : channel numbers indicate end of speed limit
Importance to actively invest Show Valid suffix
View Channel Valid suffix
Corresponding value adjust default: 00100111
Not so sure about the "00100111" adaptation but what can I mess if i'll try this ?
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Post by newty on Jan 2, 2022 8:04:14 GMT
Do not try this!
This is for Golfs manufactured earlier than approx KW40/2016 equipped with MFK1.
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Post by melkool on Jan 10, 2022 19:49:36 GMT
Not sure ... does OBd11 app on IPhone save changes in "offline mode" ? I was playing around in app last night (home - no connection do device nor car) and today I wanted to remove the GTI view as it looks very fake on 1.5 Style . View was removed BUT now I have in "Assist" the Trafic Sign icon and sure "function not available". I understand that I can't make it work - not sure why as hardware is capable and VW told me that there's no FeC for this- but what the heck did it "checked" in app ? I am thinking that was something in Dashboard.... |
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Post by newty on Jan 11, 2022 11:21:28 GMT
You cant make changes in the App while offline - let alone sync them later on. Without a connection, it is read only
You can enable everthing around TSR, but face the fact that it just does not work, since the camera is not streaming this data and does not interact on request via BAP on TSR.
That is why you can enable TSR in the Infotainment and after a reset, they will show up, not working. In Golf 7, you could even enable Night Vision and other Stuff never ment for MQB.
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Post by melkool on Jan 11, 2022 12:45:11 GMT
I have the exact hardware partnumber with another Mk8 that has TSR enabled.
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Post by newty on Jan 11, 2022 13:02:49 GMT
Thanks, but I can just look into my own car for TSR codings. But that does not help with the FeC for TSR. As long as VW does not allow you to buy it in the shop or something magical happens, I see no chance for retrofitting TSR
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Post by melkool on Jan 13, 2022 12:48:20 GMT
I went to local VW Dealer today in order to change my rear wiper (as it was stolen last night  )) ) and they had a brand new, 3km MK 8 Style edtition with Navigation, TSR, and in CAR menu it was showing the oil level. I've connected my OBD11 but I was unable to turn on the ignition as the key was not present in the car  I was trying to find out what's the difference in between my and their car ( related to TSR and Oil Level in MIB). Have you managed to look into your CAN ? Really interested in TSR (not for braking stuff; but only to display speed in dash) because I am running across the country and we have realy stupid speed limits (like on a national road with 90km/h there's a 200m segment with a limitation of 40k/h) and guess where is the Police/Radar located |
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Post by newty on Jan 14, 2022 9:39:38 GMT
TSR: There is no TSR message unless the camera is enabled to send them. No chance.
Was it still in Transport Mode? Then a lot of functions do not work as they should.
Mine shows the Oil Display in the Cluster when the hood is open.
I also saw that when flashing a drivetrain control unit in the MIB - but not working.
It either is a coding in the motor or sw related in the motor ECU
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Post by melkool on Jan 14, 2022 14:56:30 GMT
I think I got the issue. My car doesn't have Navigation as I didn't want to pay the factory 1300euro for the upgrade (or now the 800 euro for the FoD). For my country it doesn't worth the money as long as we have Waze which is 1000 light years apart from the factory navi system.
So in one word I think that TSR is not factory enabled because there's no NAVI to relate on.
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Post by mitchec on Aug 5, 2022 12:13:39 GMT
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Post by mitchec on Aug 5, 2022 12:32:26 GMT
I have a 2020 Golf MK8 1st Edition here which has traffic sign recognition active. I made a backup of coding and adaptation channels with vcds, if you want I can share it. I could be able to to a backup with OBDeleven after some days if needed. Hi there. Im looking at getting TSR activated. I have an octavia mk4 2021. I'd be interested to know what your A5 camera sensor is. I have a 5WA-980-653 |
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Post by melkool on Aug 8, 2022 8:04:20 GMT
Hi,
My A5 Hardware Number is the same: 5WA980653
IT IS CAPABLE for TSR but seems that MQB platform can't do this without Navigation from factory.
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Post by newty on Aug 9, 2022 7:03:19 GMT
Exactly.
You will need to enable Navigation and TSR by Swap/Fod for TSR to work. From my finding, as soon as any Radio/Nav with the 10inch display is installed, everything is prepared to do TSR, only the activation is missing.
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Post by mitchec on Aug 10, 2022 9:01:58 GMT
Hi, My A5 Hardware Number is the same: 5WA980653 IT IS CAPABLE for TSR but seems that MQB platform can't do this without Navigation from factory. Hi. I have factory fitted Sat Nav. I suppose its all about getting a swap code. I had 10 available swap codes listed in the hidden maintenance menu until the last software update from 1803 to 1896. Since the update they have all been removed. Saying that I don't suppose any were for TSR. Ive actually been in touch with my local Skoda dealer enquiring if I could have it activated for a price. All I got was, its got to be requested at build stage and they couldn't help. More like couldn't care less. |
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Post by melkool on Aug 10, 2022 9:32:44 GMT
I now, they are stupid! I had my Mk8 with "trial 30 days" Navigation and after that period I asked my local VW dealer to activate it ( I wished to pay them) and they've told me that my car does not support navigation So no comment |
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Post by newty on Aug 10, 2022 9:38:22 GMT
As pointed out in different threads about the same topic:
All feature enable codes (FeCs) are now handled in the Gateway and forwarded via VKMS to the affected control units.
Relevant are:
00040100 Ready4NAV RoW (including Europe here)
00070F00 Ready4NAV Asia (never seen any Asian vehicle, so unsure about it)
100E0F00 Verkehrszeichenerkennung (VZE) Full Mode
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Post by mitchec on Aug 17, 2022 16:22:32 GMT
We understand that TSR is protected from activation by FeCs but why do you think Skoda are so against allowing the activation of this feature. Ive been on the German Skoda forums and its exactly the same. It doesnt appear to be an option in any country via the Skoda connect app
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Post by newty on Aug 18, 2022 6:50:09 GMT
I can think of various reasons:
* We never done that (Top reason!)
* What if prices for features differ around Europe
* How this will be supported in case something goes wrong? Dealers not involved in the purchase?
* Not possible with some technical preconditions (before week 48/21 no FoD is possible) - there have been serious problems with ACC via FoD with some cars
* As these features are to be licensed also between VW and their supplier, there might be some legal agreements to be made before.
And maybe: VW wants it before Skoda (they already have it in the shop, as an extra to navigation)
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Post by melkool on Aug 18, 2022 9:23:10 GMT
Hi newty,
I don't have Navigation but it's available in "SHOP" for an amount equivalent to ~670 eur / $ 680 but when I had the 30 days trial there was no TSR. Only guidance, compass and a shitty navigation map that didn't knew how to route me from A to B (when Waze found a route in less than 1 second).
No one know if by enabling the Navigation we will receive additional features like TSR but it would make sens to do that!
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Post by newty on Aug 18, 2022 10:42:26 GMT
It is complicated. For Golf in the aftermarket there are two separate features to buy, while feedback was that navigation does not include TSR then, but was still avaliable to be bought.
Technically you will need Navigation enabled to have PSD also enabled for TSR to work.
I do not know if PSD is working when you are having a dormant Navigation Ready System.
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)) ) and they had a brand new, 3km MK 8 Style edtition with Navigation, TSR, and in CAR menu it was showing the oil level.
I was trying to find out what's the difference in between my and their car ( related to TSR and Oil Level in MIB).