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Post by theories on Nov 22, 2021 21:55:01 GMT
hmm...... something odd!! Black in module list means that hex47 can't be reached, but clearly the Gateway module could reach the module to extract the hex47 module details for the scan result! With the module ticked - can you access the module directly by selecting 47 in the module list? Also, please post-up the complete long code for the hex5F module and the hex47 module (if possible)
Don
Here is the complete long coding for both modules And after installing the control module again I can still access it. 027300020000000021220002001800001F0203340100010546 - 5F MULTIMEDIA 22000000AAAAAA0000 - 47 Sound System |
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Post by theories on Nov 22, 2021 22:04:54 GMT
Also VERY important, manually enabling the 47 Sound System control module causes me to have no sound whatsoever.
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Post by theories on Nov 22, 2021 22:10:53 GMT
I can change the brand of the amp in the 5F module in my screenshot from earlier since Fender is PR 8RU and Dynaudio is PR 9VE which is what the retrofit tells me to code in for the retrofit to get audio to work with the MIB1 AMP on the MIB2 Brain.
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on Nov 23, 2021 20:00:17 GMT
hmm........ I'm not sure what's happening with your car, but I found a scan report using "the other cable" from a car from Alberta Canada (so, NAR model - like yours) that has exactly your combination of Fender Amp and MIB.
I've shown details of the hex47 and hex5F modules from both cars for comparison below (the Canada car details in blue.
As you can see below- the Canada car also has the exact-same long code for both modules, yet the hex47 module shows-up on the other cable as a fully registered module!!
47 Sound System System description: MIB_lite_amp Software number: 5G0035456 Software version: 0060 Hardware number: 5G0035456 Hardware version: H40 Coding:22000000AAAAAA0000
Address 47: Sound System (J525) Labels:| 5G0-035-456.clb
Part No SW: 5G0 035 456 HW: 5G0 035 456
Component: MIB_lite_amp H30 0042
Serial number: VWZ8Z1EC40105RX
Coding: 22000000AAAAAA0000
Shop #: WSC 01383 790 50316
ASAM Dataset: EV_AMPMst11CALPI 001005
ROD: EV_AMPMst11CALPI.rod
VCID: 63CFB9CF6A24AF93BE-8036
5F Multimedia System description: MU-S-NS-US Software number: 5G0035876 Software version: 0655 Hardware number: 5G0035876 Hardware version: 014 Serial number: V7B00210140255 Coding: 027300020000000021220002001800001F0203340100010546
Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794) Labels:| 5G0-035-MIB-STD1.clb
Part No SW: 5G0 035 876 HW: 5G0 035 876
Component: MU-S-NS-US 013 0645
Serial number: V7B01304140113
Coding: 027300020000000021220002001800001F0203340100010546
Shop #: WSC 00066 790 00199
ASAM Dataset: EV_MUStd4CPASE 002040
ROD: EV_MUStd4CPASE_VW37.rod
VCID: 69D3ABE78808F5C374-803C
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Post by theories on Nov 24, 2021 2:08:27 GMT
Very interesting find, I’m also in Alberta too hah. Although the serial number for 5F is different so not the same car. OBDeleven is also unable to pull a serial number for the hex47 module or amp. I’ve have no idea whats going on, but I appreciate your help. I’ve learned quite a few things during the whole process. I guess I might be a no go on the retrofit..
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Post by theories on Nov 24, 2021 5:01:25 GMT
I just don’t understand why my audio works when hex47 isn’t installed and then completely breaks when I manually install it in the gateway installation list.
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on Nov 24, 2021 20:38:04 GMT
Although the serial number for 5F is different so not the same car. huh? Of course "the serial number is different" - it's a serial number!! A serial number is a unique identifier for each individual unit that rolls off the production line. It's not possible (ever) to have the same serial number in 2 x separate modules - by definition!! i can assure you that the fact that the part number and the software numbers (and the other numbers - excluding serial numbers) are the same means that these are identical MIB/Fender units!!! I just don’t understand why my audio works when hex47 isn’t installed and then completely breaks when I manually install it in the gateway installation list. Neither do I - but my hunch (emphasize "guess") is that it's a problem with the way that OBD11 reports sound modules on NAR (North America Region) mk7s.
If you notice how the modules in blue are reported, you will see that the structure is slightly different. This is because the information came from a VCDS diagnostic cable. Clearly, VCDS does report the hex47 module correctly on a NAR vehicle, whereas OBD11 does not. As I have said, my hunch is that this only happens with this module on NAR models. This doesn't happen on EU models with the same Fender units as evidenced in the scan HERE. The car in the link is an EU model because of the long-code on the hex5F module - notice that Byte 03=hex01, this means navigation maps=EU. So, if much hunch is correct and you can get access to a VCDS cable, I suspect that your hex 47 module will be reported correctly in an auto-scan with the other device. Don
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Post by theories on Nov 25, 2021 6:44:49 GMT
Oh yes I know its a different car and different serial number I was just hinting at the point that its in Alberta, Canada which is exactly where I’m from haha.
I appreciate your help Don, I learned a lot. Thanks for the suggestions and taking your time to help me out. Maybe I’ll befriend someone with a VCDS cable and license one day.
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Post by jeelong on Mar 18, 2024 20:54:33 GMT
Oh yes I know its a different car and different serial number I was just hinting at the point that its in Alberta, Canada which is exactly where I’m from haha. I appreciate your help Don, I learned a lot. Thanks for the suggestions and taking your time to help me out. Maybe I’ll befriend someone with a VCDS cable and license one day. Hey bro, have you got the issue fixed? |
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Post by jeelong on Mar 18, 2024 21:03:29 GMT
hmm...... something odd!! Black in module list means that hex47 can't be reached, but clearly the Gateway module could reach the module to extract the hex47 module details for the scan result! With the module ticked - can you access the module directly by selecting 47 in the module list? Also, please post-up the complete long code for the hex5F module and the hex47 module (if possible)
Don
Here is the complete long coding for both modules And after installing the control module again I can still access it. 027300020000000021220002001800001F0203340100010546 - 5F MULTIMEDIA 22000000AAAAAA0000 - 47 Sound System Just come to say thank you, I used your long coding and magic happend!! It made my fender work!! Thank you bro, you saved my day!! |
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Post by jagti on Jul 14, 2024 3:10:32 GMT
jeelong, you used OBDeleven and you had no issues seeing Module 47 while having the MIB2 headunit installed? I'm getting ready to do this, and I'm hoping I don't have the issues getting my AMP working. theories did you have any luck? Thanks
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Post by jagti on Jul 29, 2024 5:02:13 GMT
Update, I finally went through with it, and switched to MIB 2.
I also have a fender system; I had no sound at the start and could not see Module 47. But after I applied the suggest coding for Module 5F, I have sound!
But I still do not see Module 47, anybody else have luck being able to see Module 47 to complete the coding?
thanks!
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Post by jagti on Jul 30, 2024 0:00:35 GMT
I manually added Module 47, like theories and it's blacked out. I could still see it's long code and I tried updating bit 0 to 0x12 but after coding this, this doesn't appear to make a difference. Unlike theories I still had sound even after reboot. Subwoofer doesn't work with or without this changes. Anybody else find a solution to this problem? |
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Post by csmith319 on Aug 12, 2024 17:15:33 GMT
Hi!
I'm new to this forum, but I'm hoping for some help as I've got a similar problem, in summary:
- I'm upgrading a 2015 Golf from MIB1 to MIB2
- I've installed the head unit, screen, USB socket
- I still have a MIB1 Fender amp
- I have recoded the amp to be DynAudio whilst the MIB1 was installed
- I've recoded 5F to activate MOST and to set the output to external
However!
- Module 47 doesn't appear when the MIB2 headunit is installed
- I can make the module appear by manually adding it - but it remains blacked out, although I can access it and code it
The main problem - I can't get any sound at all from it, I've gone through loads of different combinations of settings - but no luck.
Any ideas from anyone? One thing to note is that my head unit is an EUR unit and the car is NAR - however, everything is working great apart from no sound.
Thank you!
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Post by jagti on Sept 5, 2024 3:11:32 GMT
Have you had any luck? Is this a Delphi MIB2 unit that you have upgraded to? Check the long coding string matches the coding provided earlier in this Thread. Sadly, I also was not able to see Module 47 but I have sound, so I believe maybe things are functioning as well as they may for now. Sound is not as good as before but not bad either. I tweaked the sound settings using the headunit and this helped and overall I think I'm mostly satisfied with my swap. The bass is weaker than before in my opinion and I read another thread talking about further parametrization which is not possibly via coding but I need to dig into this further. I'm still having an intermittent issue occurring with the backup camera and I have no been able to solve it, "The ParkPilot is not available" error. Coding appears correct but no luck after trying different setting combinations. I found several threads mentioning this error and this appears to be a common issue. www.reddit.com/r/Volkswagen/comments/42o8ck/the_parkpilot_is_not_available_reverse_camera/If anybody has a solution for this please share! Thanks! Hi! I'm new to this forum, but I'm hoping for some help as I've got a similar problem, in summary: - I'm upgrading a 2015 Golf from MIB1 to MIB2 - I've installed the head unit, screen, USB socket - I still have a MIB1 Fender amp - I have recoded the amp to be DynAudio whilst the MIB1 was installed - I've recoded 5F to activate MOST and to set the output to external However! - Module 47 doesn't appear when the MIB2 headunit is installed - I can make the module appear by manually adding it - but it remains blacked out, although I can access it and code it The main problem - I can't get any sound at all from it, I've gone through loads of different combinations of settings - but no luck. Any ideas from anyone? One thing to note is that my head unit is an EUR unit and the car is NAR - however, everything is working great apart from no sound. Thank you! |
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