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Post by pslater on Oct 3, 2021 20:31:35 GMT
hi all,
i am new to ODBeleven, and fairly new to the MK7 platform, but not new to coding or VCDS usage. i just purchased a 2017 Golf R, and have used ODBeleven to tweak some annoyances with the car, and to enable the 'personalization' options in the MIB2 as my wife and i are 8" difference in height and i want to use it for seat/mirror/etc memory (i'm going to retrofit seat memory into the driver's seat soon).
sometime after enabling personalization, the car now auto-locks ("door slam") when exiting the vehicle. i've checked all settings in both Central Electric and Auto Start modules (to be honest, there are a lot) and the "passive exit entry (door slam)" option is indeed disabled, yet it will still auto-lock when i close the driver's door. with kids, groceries, etc to deal with, this is a huge pain in the arse.
one weird thing is i am getting a fault in the driver's door module for "lock unit for central locking - implausible signal", which i am suspecting is eerily related.
if anyone can point me in the right direction, it would be greatly appreciated. i'm normally the kind of person to dig and dig until i have found the solution, however i have a ton on my plate at the moment and i just need to help to get this thing turned off.
thanks in advance!
peter
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on Oct 4, 2021 0:04:11 GMT
peter: try this - Go to B7 Module - Access Startsystem Interface - select Coding - navigate to Byte 2 - remove tick from Bit 4 (locking for Door slamming)
Don
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Post by pslater on Oct 4, 2021 1:07:55 GMT
thanks don - i checked that earlier today actually, and only bits 2 and 3 are checked... not sure what those mean other than "not active"?
another odd thing that i forgot to mention is that the doors also lock automatically as soon as i get IN the car and close the driver's door - which is hugely annoying, and the 'lock automatically' option in the MIB2 'opening and closing' menu is UN-checked...
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on Oct 4, 2021 21:19:01 GMT
peter: hmm....... real odd indeed! Rather than trying to guess the cause - go to the records in History and look for any changes the were made that could relate to the problem. Then revert settings to "old value"
Don
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Post by pslater on Oct 4, 2021 23:23:07 GMT
hi don, yes, i was thinking of that today, actually. i will attempt it tonight if i get some time. thanks!
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Post by pslater on Oct 7, 2021 0:14:13 GMT
i went back through the coding changes i've made, which admittedly are very minor. i rolled them back and the issue persists. i also verified that it does it with both keys.
it is hugely frustrating, auto-locking both outside and inside the car, trapping my wife and kids both inside and outside the car unless i leave the driver's door open until everyone is in or out. i've quadruple-checked the coding, it's coded off. also, i believe it started about a week after coding changes, so perhaps it is a hardware issue.
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Post by pslater on Oct 7, 2021 2:51:34 GMT
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on Oct 7, 2021 20:39:05 GMT
pslater : Of course anything is possible - but a couple of observations: First the car in your link is Golf mk6 which is built on a 1K chassis - this is very different to your mk7.5 which is built on a MQB platform ("AU" chassis)
Second: Again with the caveat that anything is possible, there is considerable evidence of errors in the VCDS auto-scan report in your link showing a problem in the wiring harness. If the same (similar?) fault was on your car - there would be errors also in your scan report. Unlike the 1K chassis car, on your mk7.5, the central locking function is managed by the central electrics module - but the wiring loom to the door panels also affect the door modules - are there any errors on your scan report (the wiring loom is monitored continuously for breaks/faults)?
Don
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Post by pslater on Oct 8, 2021 20:28:32 GMT
hi don, yes, i am getting this error in the driver's door module (i had listed this in the original post):
one weird thing is i am getting a fault in the driver's door module for "lock unit for central locking - implausible signal", which i am suspecting is eerily related.
i spent some time last night with the live data stream of the KESSY door handles, monitoring for what happens when the door is closed, etc. from everything i can see, they are operating correctly as far as the sensors go, except that the locking function doesn't work from the handle. it works fine from the keyfob and also from the lock switches on door panels inside the car.
i tried unplugging the harness for each door handle, which had zero effect other than errors and beep from the instrument cluster stating that KESSY was malfunctioning. so i put it back together.
i then disabled the KESSY functions from both front door handles, and confirmed that they are disabled. however, the doors still auto-lock when closing.... although, strangely, one out of every 5-6 times i open and close the driver's door, it won't auto-lock....... which, combined with the error in the driver's door module (in bold, above), leads me back to a wiring issue, in the driver's door loom.
so.......... i will be removing the door panel from the driver's door this weekend and testing continuity on every wire in the central locking button harness and the KESSY harness.
peter
PS - forgot to mention: if i run the 'test sequence for central locking' output test (i think this is in the central electrics module?), it stops part-way through and i get this error: "CANCELLED DUE TO DETECTED MALFUNCTION" - which obviously means something, but it sure would be nice to have some more details!
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on Oct 8, 2021 21:43:01 GMT
pslater : OK,I didn't read your bit about the "implausible signal" - my bad.
Yes- it does suggest a physical problem some where (particularly if the error has an intermittent status Not sure if it helps - but here's a very cut-down view of how the driver side lock unit is wired on a mk7 (some cars don't have the SAFELOCK function- depends on country of sale)
Don
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Post by pslater on Oct 14, 2021 14:36:10 GMT
hi don, sorry for the late reply. life is chaotic.  i didn't have much time over the weekend but ultimately i did find that the driver's door lock actuator/module is the issue. if i watch the live data for all doors, and open/close and lock/unlock the doors, it's the driver's door lock that is randomly switching from 'locked' to 'unlocked' to 'implausible' - hence the code. i've ordered a new door lock actuator, which, ironically, seemed to have scared the original actuator into behaving, as it's worked pretty much perfectly since i ordered it. LOL. anyway, i will replace the module and update the thread once done. |
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Post by ivantdi on Jan 23, 2024 9:47:09 GMT
Hi, I'm trying to enable the door slam lock on my 2013 MK7, what exactly I should do to make it work, I couldn't find the precise instructions anywhere. Thank you!
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on Jan 23, 2024 22:12:12 GMT
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Post by ivantdi on Jan 24, 2024 14:46:57 GMT
Great, thanks, I hope it'll work for my car, it has no keyless access, I'll give it a try.
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on Jan 24, 2024 20:18:24 GMT
huh? "no keyless access"? This thread is about door slamming - which is a KESSY (module @ address hexB7) thing!! What are you calling "the door slam lock"?
Don
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Post by ivantdi on Jan 26, 2024 14:07:17 GMT
Door slam lock - auto-locking immediately after closing the driver's door? That should be it, and it would be ideal for it to turn the alarm on, logical also. If it doesn't turn the alarm on than it's pretty useless.
I think it should be doable with any model, not just KESSY, I'm just not sure about the coding procedure.
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on Jan 26, 2024 21:04:51 GMT
I think it should be doable with any model, not just KESSY Hmmm............... really? Why do you think that door slamming "should be doable with any model" (i.e. in cars without KESSY)?? The thing that makes door slamming possible is the locking system knowing when the key-fob position has moved from inside to outside the car. KESSY does this with 3 x Low-Frequency transmission aerials which monitor the car's interior AND SEPARATELY with additional 3 x aerials that monitor the exterior of the car. The set-up for the 6 x KESSY aerials and their monitoring areas is like this:  Notice the different colored "monitoring area" in my diagram. The B7 - Access Startsystem Interface module uses these aerials to track the location of the key fob as the driver exits the cabin. Cars without KESSY do NOT have this facility - so in non-KESSY vehicles, the locking system is blind to the local location of the key fob !!
I'm just not sure about the coding procedure. Neither am I!!! |
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Post by ivantdi on Jan 26, 2024 21:41:37 GMT
OK, obviously this was me being stupid, not really thinking about it like you explained, with the picture, sorry and thanks for clarifying!
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Post by mjcedeno1975 on Jul 4, 2024 10:38:54 GMT
Hmmm............... really? Why do you think that door slamming "should be doable with any model" (i.e. in cars without KESSY)?? The thing that makes door slamming possible is the locking system knowing when the key-fob position has moved from inside to outside the car. KESSY does this with 3 x Low-Frequency transmission aerials which monitor the car's interior AND SEPARATELY with additional 3 x aerials that monitor the exterior of the car. The set-up for the 6 x KESSY aerials and their monitoring areas is like this: Notice the different colored "monitoring area" in my diagram. The B7 - Access Startsystem Interface module uses these aerials to track the location of the key fob as the driver exits the cabin. Cars without KESSY do NOT have this facility - so in non-KESSY vehicles, the locking system is blind to the local location of the key fob !!
Neither am I!!! Anyway to delay the auto lock for a few seconds more , it does it very quickly after exit, just did this mod and love it but a few seconds more would be nice. |
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on Jul 5, 2024 22:48:24 GMT
Short Answer is I don't know if it's possible to further delay the KESSY auto-locking function using OBD11. However, I very much doubt it - but I would be delighted to be proven wrong!
Don
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Post by mjcedeno1975 on Jul 6, 2024 0:26:17 GMT
Short Answer is I don't know if it's possible to further delay the KESSY auto-locking function using OBD11. However, I very much doubt it - but I would be delighted to be proven wrong!
Don
Bummer! the option is great though, however, locking right after your door closes, make you open doors several times if you have more passengers in the car or have to get stuff from other doors. Hoping someone may get insightful info if it is possible to delay it or even more convenient adding a little more distance out from the Kessy area. |
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