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Post by ababic on Aug 22, 2020 21:30:13 GMT
Hi guys,
I was able to code most of the things I wanted on my 2016 Leon FR thanks to posts I've read here. Thank you so much!!
However, one thing I couldn't get to work and it's really bothering me. Read all posts here but didn't get the answers.
Can you help me with this please:
1. CH/LH with DRL lights without Auto lights (no convenience package) - I have Full LED headlights
What I would like to achieve is that CH/LH is activated with unlock/lock from the key and it triggers DRL LEDs.
I do see the option for CH/LH in the car menu (one where you can adjust seconds for both), but looks like that only affects interior lighting.
Thanks in advance, I'm really enjoying this forum! Aleksandar
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on Aug 24, 2020 0:08:39 GMT
Aleksander: Hi I'm not particularly familiar with the Leon FR - but it does share the same build platform as other MQB based cars (like mk7 Golf and Audi A3, 8V). This being the case, perhaps the discussion in the link below might be of interest; in it I describe how to program a MQB platform car without "Auto lights" for a simulated version of the LH function.
Now, the original request for my reply below wanted to use the front fog lights for LH - but you can use the same principle on the DRL if your car doesn't have Light Control Modules (LCMs).
Do you know whether the headlight fittings on your car are controlled by the Central electrics module (@ address hex09), or by LCMs? Asked another way, are the Leuchte-sets in the hex09 module for the DRLs on your car activated?
To check, go to the Leuchte-set for the DRL on your car (I'm not sure which one this is on a Leon) and read the value for the lasttyp channel - if the setting for this channel is NOT not active, then my suggested tweak in the link below should work (i.e. when applied to the left/right side DRL Leuchte-sets)
If the car does control the headlights via the hex09 module, to place the Leuchte-command Innenlicht appropriately on the DRL Leuchte-set - you need to find an unused Lichtfunktion pair. I'm not sure how a Leon is factory programmed, so you will need to search for this arrangement
Don
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Post by ababic on Aug 24, 2020 21:23:51 GMT
Hi Don, Thanks for the reply! I've read the post you've sent. I wasn't able to determinate if I have lights controlled by LCM or Central electrics module, couldn't find `lasttyp` channel. However, I've stumbled across something interesting. Right - Leuchte3SL VRB21 When I've opened adaptations for them I saw that `Lichfunktion C 2` (left and `Lichfunktion C 3` (right) already have values set to `Coming Home oder Leaving home aktiv`. (screenshots below) So when I saw that, I thought that just enabling CH/LH in `Comfort Illumination` channel would solve the problem for me (of course with enabling CH/LH from the car menu), but it didn't. Any ideas what to try next?
Thanks a lot Aleksandar
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on Aug 25, 2020 1:05:36 GMT
Aleksandar: I can't see the rest of the adaptation channels for Leuchte2SL VLB10 (2 x pictures are needed), but it's interesting that your car already has the CH/LH Leuchte-command programmed (from factory - I assume). I suspect that these settings are "standard" on a Leon regardless of whether the light-sensor and the rotary light switch with AUTO position are fitted
Let's look at LH and CH separately: CH lights
As I said in my other post, only CH is possible without the light-sensor. Notwithstanding that your car has the facility to change the switch-on time in the MENU, I suspect that the reason why CH doesn't work (i.e. when you leave the car) is that you don't have an AUTO position on the rotary light switch. You could try implementing the manual version of CH that requires the driver to flash the high-beam stalk after turning off the ignition, but before opening the door. To do this - change Coming Home Verbaustatus to manual in your 2nd picture - then try the manual process.
LH lights As I have said, it doesn't matter that the Leuchte channels are programmed for LH because you don't have the sensor or the AUTO position switch - so it simply won't work!! Also, as I said, I can't see how the rest of the channels in Leuchte2SL VLB10 are programmed, but I assume that the following occurs:
Leuchte2SL VLB10 Lichtfunktion G 2 > not active
Lichtfunktion H 2 > not active
Dimmwert GH 2 > 0
Dimming Direction GH 2 > maximize
If and ONLY if the settings on your car are as above, try this:
Leuchte2SL VLB10
Lichtfunktion G 2 > Innenlicht
Lichtfunktion H 2 > not active
Dimmwert GH 2 > 100
Dimming Direction GH 2 > maximize
If the changes work to give you the simulated LH function when you unlock the car, repeat changes for Leuchte3SL VRB21 Don
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Post by ababic on Aug 25, 2020 8:27:00 GMT
Don, we are finally making some progress!! 
CH is now working in manual mode as you suggested.
Leuchte2SL VLB10 did have following settings:
But applying modifications:
Didn't cause LH to work. I've tried both 100 and 127 for `Dimmwert GH` because I've read somewhere that for LEDs we need to put 127, but both resulted in same thing.
I've made screenshots of all adaptation channels of Leuchte2SL VLB10, please find them below:  
Thanks for the help again! Cheers
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2020 8:37:36 GMT
This has all the stock settings for many cars and compares the various settings.
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on Aug 26, 2020 2:27:23 GMT
Aleksandar: hmm... OK - it should work because it works on other MQB platform cars. Do the interior lights work when you press unlock on the key fob?
Don
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Post by ababic on Aug 26, 2020 3:53:39 GMT
Don,
Yes, the interior light does come up when car gets unlocked.
Anything else that I could check/troubleshoot?
Thanks!
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on Aug 26, 2020 5:45:39 GMT
Try the same commands on another light like the front fog light Leuchte12NL LB45 or the Brake light Leuchte20BR LA71
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Post by ababic on Aug 26, 2020 11:17:07 GMT
Don, I finally got it to work!
I didn't realize that DRLs have 2 adaptation channels per side.
So I had to apply same settings to additional channels:
- Leuchte4TFL LB4
- Leucthe5TFL RB32
After that, my front DRLs started behaving as expected.
I've also coded: - Leuchte26NSL LA72
- Leuchte23SL HLC10
- Leuchte26NSL RC6
- Leuchte24SL HRA65
with same settings to get rear LEDs to work as well.
Only thing that I've did differently from your initial response was I used 127 instead of 100 for `Dimmwert` values. Is there any reason why 100 would be required?
Thanks so much for all the help, I'm so happy that its working finally!
P.S. here's video to show it in action
Cheers Aleksandar
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on Aug 26, 2020 22:38:38 GMT
Aleksandar: Well done - you are clearly a fast learner!!  Only thing that I've did differently from your initial response was I used 127 instead of 100 for `Dimmwert` values. Is there any reason why 100 would be required? The reason for using 100 is because of the way that I answer these type of questions - from my experience. In my first response, I didn't know what type of lights were fitted to your car (yes, you said LED, but I didn't read this properly - sorry). When this happens, I always assume incandescent lamps because the dimmwert channel setting "100" usually works on both lamp types (whereas the setting "127" only works on LEDs). In terms of the question - why does the hex09 module use different maximum values - it's because the Central electrics module uses analogue control for incandescent lights and it uses digital control for LEDs (I think). But - it's very much an academic distinction between the 2 x methods IMO because there is little (if any) difference in illumination level between 100 and 127. Don |
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Post by ababic on Aug 27, 2020 9:00:07 GMT
Thanks for the clarification.
In the end, I've set 100 for `Dimmwert GH` on the channels that had `Dimmwert CD` set to 100 from factory and in the same manner 127 to the other ones that had 127 from factory.
Works perfectly.
Aleksandar
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Post by callliope on Dec 18, 2023 7:56:43 GMT
Good day Gents, dv52 (Australia) ababic I would need some help on this matter if you can, thanks in advance. I have a Seat Leon FR 2017 facelift with FULL LED and no rain sensor,no auto switch on the lighting column. I've guided myself for the channels from the attachement picture. I've tried the same thing on my car which was suggested here, i've coded 2SL VLB 10, 4TFL LB4 and other side 3SL VRB21, 5TFL RB32 and still, i cannot make them light up when unlock or lock. Default values were same as here: i replaced them with: Also, i checked lasttyp channel is not active. See photoHow can i check also interior lighting settings. Interior lighting switch position it is like here See photoI will try now this: When I've opened adaptations for them I saw that `Lichfunktion C 2` (left and `Lichfunktion C 3` (right) already have values set to `Coming Home oder Leaving home aktiv`.
Because on my car value it is " not active", I put both LEUCHTE2SL VLB 10 Lichfunktion C 2 and Leuchte4TFL LB4 Lichfunktion C3 coming home oder leavinghome aktiv but still nothing .....In the MMI i have timing for the coming home (it was like this since i bought the car) and after i activated Lichfunktion C3 to coming home oder leaving home aktiv, leaving home seconds appeared also, See photoAnd also it is wierd, i have this Coming Home Verbaustatus to manual and if i flash before going out, coming home it is working, but without flash, if i open the door, nothing is happening.. Also as it was stated here: I've checked on LEUCHTE2SL VLB 10 Dimmwert CD and mine is set to 0, should i change to 127? see See photo
So i checked LEUCHTE2SL VLB 10 all the 19x channels and i made photo, ( All 19 channels photos). I compared them with the ones from this early post(Post) in this thread, i found plenty of values different, so i don't wanna mess around. Maybe somebody can give me a hand and tell me what is not adjusted in these 19 channels so i can change and put to another channel and test if one side from front DRL is working or not... Appreciate it. I just learned all of this Today ^_^, please take me slowly. Something else that i missed? Attachments:
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Post by whataboutthis on Dec 18, 2023 14:47:49 GMT
Coming Home and Leaving Home without having a light or rain sensor
* Applicable up to MY16 *
If you don't have a rain sensor you can also activate the Coming Home and Leaving Home with this modification.
For leaving to work, before getting out of the car you have to give Gust.
1 - Module 09 - Electronic control unit - Code (31347)
2 - Adaptation
3 - Comfort lighting
4 - Coming Home Verbaustatus - (Change value to Automatic)
5 - Menueeinstellung cominghome - (Change value to 20 - By default 10 sec)
6 - Coming home Einschaltereignis - - (Change value to Driver Door)
7 - Menuesteuerung coming home Werkseinstellung - (Change value to On)
8 - Coming home Leuchten - (Change value to Low Beam)
9 - Leaving home verbausstatus - (Change value to Unlocked)
10 - Menuesteuerung leaving home freischaltung per BAP - (Change value to Activated)
11 - Menueinstellung leaving home zeit per BAP - (Change value to 20 s)
* Applicable from MY17 *
1 - Module 09 - Electronic control unit - Code (31347)
2 - Adaptation
3 - Aussenlicht_uebergreifend
4 - Coming Home Verbaustatus - (Change value to Automatic)
5 - Menueeinstellung cominghome - (Change value to 20 - By default 10 sec)
6 - Coming home Einschaltereignis - ( Change value to Driver Door)
7 - Menuesteuerung coming home Werkseinstellung - (Change value to On)
8 - Coming home leuchteng - (Change value to Low Beam)
9 - Leaving home verbausstatus - (Change value to Unlocked)
10 - Menuesteuerung leaving home freischaltung per BAP - (Change value to On)
11 - Menueinstellung leaving home zeit per BAP - (Change value to 20 s)
Pseudo Coming Home and Leaving Home without a light or rain sensor
* Applicable to all models *
A very simple way to have a pseudo Home / Leaving Home activated in our vehicle
is to apply the on condition of the roof lighting console to the lights that we want
to come on when opening or closing the car, taking advantage of the courtesy ignition when open the car and the
timing of it when closing it.
For this, we will simply have to enter module 09 - Adaptation.
We choose the light that we want to act as Homing and we look for a free channel.
For example:
We want the right fog light to turn on:
- Leuchte13NL RB5 and we search for a free channel.
- In this case the C13 and we change the value of Nicht Aktiv to Innenlicht (Inner light)
Now we are going to activate the intensity we want in the chosen channel:
- Dimmwert CD 13: and change the value to the one we like the most depending on what we want it to light.
We repeat the process with all those lights that we want to activate.
It is possible that with the daytime LEDs it fails and does not work. Matter of testing.
You have the table of lights here: viewtopic.php? F = 8 & t = 116700 # p1876846 It will depend on the year of manufacture of your car.
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Post by callliope on Dec 18, 2023 17:40:03 GMT
whataboutthis my car is November 2017 made, and i cannot find this: see photo link
1 - Module 09 - Electronic control unit - Code (31347)
2 - Adaptation
3 - Aussenlicht_uebergreifend
4 - Coming Home Verbaustatus - (Change value to Automatic) - i had it on manual, because of what i read in this post, in put auto just to try this settings.
5 - Menueeinstellung cominghome - (Change value to 20 - By default 10 sec) i had 30seconds, i let 30 seconds.
6 - Coming home Einschaltereignis - ( Change value to Driver Door) - it is like this, driver door and not ignition.
7 - Menuesteuerung coming home Werkseinstellung - (Change value to On) - active
8 - Coming home leuchteng - (Change value to Low Beam) - already it is like this
9 - Leaving home verbausstatus - (Change value to Unlocked) - it is enabled.
10 - Menuesteuerung leaving home freischaltung per BAP - (Change value to On) i put ON
11 - Menueinstellung leaving home zeit per BAP - (Change value to 20 s) - i had 30s, i put 20. This method doesn't work on my car that it is made 2017. Sorry for the bold, i copied your post and i tried to remove formatting but still bolded... As for the other method, i don't understand this, what do you mean by free channel ? ... this is photo with all the channels where should i change from nicht active to inner light? link
I already put Lichtfunktion G 2 to Interior lighting, and it was not active, then i put into Dimmerwert GH2 127 (as for LED). If you can check my photos of channels you will see the settings are as you told.
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Post by whataboutthis on Dec 22, 2023 0:09:32 GMT
sorry its xmas so been busy
i just checked on 2017 motor in my garage and it has it
try searching for aussen
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