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Post by peta2020 on Aug 12, 2020 12:17:51 GMT
Hi everyone! I am trying to figure out how to activate hill hold on my Kamiq - MY2020. I was searching the web for any kind of information on performing such a procedure on other MQB A0 vehicles (Ibiza, Arona, T-Cross, Scala, Polo), however I did not have any luck finding coding descriptions for 2Q0 614 517 AP (or similar) which is installed in my car. Has anyone successfully activated this feature on a Kamiq (or any other MQB A0 vehicle)? Can you share with us how to do it?  Really do not want to code the ABS unity blindly  without knowing the right bits and bytes. I would also be happy if anyone of you owning a Kamiq with factory enabled hill hold can share its ABS coding? Even that is a valid starting point. Tnx in advance! |
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Post by blututh on Aug 17, 2020 11:00:07 GMT
I am also searching a working coding for hill hold. Would appreciate any help.
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Post by Thirsty on Aug 17, 2020 11:21:41 GMT
To activate Hill hold assistant for MQB platform do the following:
1) Select CU 03 Brakes
2) Select coding
3) Go to Byte 25
4) Tick Bit 0 and 1
To adjust the hold time:
1) Select CU 03 Brakes
2) Select Adaptation
3) Select Channel "Berganfahrassistent"
4) Choose the value you would like to have. There should be Früh, Normal and Spät(Early, normal, late)
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Post by peta2020 on Aug 20, 2020 10:50:48 GMT
Indeed this is the proper coding for MQB platform (Octavia MkIII, Golf VII, Leon, etc.), which is in the latest production years using 46 byte long coding in ABS modules. However ABS module in Scala/Kamiq (MQB A0 platform) are newer units (2Q0 614 517 AP) which have a massive 58 byte long coding, and I am not sure if this coding applies to this new units also. If someone of you is brave enough to try, please share your experience with us. I personally think that the safest way is c omparing the codings from our Kamiqs with another unit from Scala/Kamiq that has hill holding activated from the factory. At least this is the route I am choosing before coding my car blindly (and potentially messing up brake system in my car). |
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Post by blututh on Aug 21, 2020 7:29:05 GMT
I can share the ABS module information for Kamiq WITHOUT hill hold assist activated.
HW: 2Q0614517N
SW: 0262
Long coding:
B1108B643D498DB4D101BC1A12DE11A64976AD06224A24484C54125545488865926EB56044522412322A48AAA249D60B3F926BD0FCB0AC500D350A
If someone si prepared to share ABS coding with activated hill assist that would be awesome.
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Post by fred4009 on Aug 21, 2020 8:03:09 GMT
Hello here is my configuration with hill start aid
03 Electronique de freins
Description système: ESC_base_vFGS
Version du logiciel: 2Q0614517AL
version du logiciel: 0260
Numéro de Matériel: 2Q0614517N
Version matériel: H23
numéro de série: 08508692191017
nom du ODX
: EV_Brake1BOSCHESPMQBA0
version ODX: 005001
Codage long: B1108C643D458DB33101BC1912DE11A64976AD06224A24484C54125545488865926EB56044522412322A48AAA249D74B3D92EBD2BCB0AC500D350A
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Post by peta2020 on Aug 21, 2020 10:26:32 GMT
So if we take a closer look to the codings of our cars: Without HH - blututh's car B1 10 8B 64 3D 49  B4 D1 01 BC 1A 12 DE 11 A6 49 76 AD 06 22 4A 24 48 4C 54 12 55 45 48 88 65 92 6E B5 60 44 52 24 12 32 2A 48 AA A2 49 D6 0B 3F 92 6B D0 FC B0 AC 50 0D 35 0A Without HH - peta2020's car B1 10 8C 64 3D 45 B2 31 FD BC 1D 12 DD 11 A6 49 76 AD 06 22 4A 24 48 4C 54 12 55 45 48 88 65 92 6E B5 60 44 52 24 12 32 2A 48 AA A2 49 D7 0B 3F 92 EB D0 FC B0 AC 50 0D 35 0A With HH enabled - fred4009's car B1 10 8C 64 3D 45 B3 31 01 BC 19 12 DE 11 A6 49 76 AD 06 22 4A 24 48 4C 54 12 55 45 48 88 65 92 6E B5 60 44 52 24 12 32 2A 48 AA A2 49 D7 4B 3D 92 EB D2 BC B0 AC 50 0D 35 0A So this means that we should try to activate: byte 47 - bit 6and/ orbyte 51 - bit 1If anyone else has a different opinion, please share! Also it would be great if we can have two long codings of cars with HH enabled for comparison. So if you do not mind sharing your ABS long coding, please share with us!  |
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Post by blututh on Aug 23, 2020 10:29:12 GMT
Great job!
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Post by peta2020 on Aug 23, 2020 17:19:35 GMT
Tnx blututh! But do not get too excited just yet! I have noticed that fred4009's Kamiq is on ABS software version 2Q0614517 AL but mine is on software version 2Q0614517 AP (and I do not know the version in your car blututh?) It is possible that Skoda is using different codings between different software versions. For example VW T-Cross is using the same HW unit as our's Kamiqs do (2Q0614517N), but is flashed whith different (older) software version 2Q0614517 AF which is using shorter - 52 bytes long coding. It would be really helpful to get the coding of Kamiq with hill holding enabled which is on the same software version - 2Q0614517 APBtw, ABS coding in Kamiq/Scala is completely binary mirrored among bytes -> check attached Excel file and color matching bytes We can almost certainly conclude that the key to enabling hill hold is not in a single bit/byte!Attachments:ABS decoding.xlsx (16.91 KB)
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Post by blututh on Aug 24, 2020 7:24:40 GMT
Software number: 2Q0614517AP
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Post by peta2020 on Aug 24, 2020 9:49:12 GMT
Once again, if you are reading this thread and you own a Kamiq or Scala (with or without hill hold), and you are willing to share its ABS coding, please post the coding here with the information below:
Is it Scala or Kamiq?
Is hill hold activated?
Manual or DSG? (all DSGs are equipped with hill hold)
Hardware number of ABS unit
Software number of ABS unit
Engine type and horsepower
You will help us a lot!
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Post by blututh on Aug 24, 2020 11:33:35 GMT
Moderator note:I've removed the other threads. There is no need for other threads that link to this one You can delete this message if you want to.
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Post by peta2020 on Aug 26, 2020 10:23:19 GMT
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Post by scalastyle on Nov 11, 2020 0:01:18 GMT
Are there any news about this?
I have a Scala, Style equpment 2019, 1.0. 115hp, 6MT without Hill Hold. I'll try to get obdeleven to help you because i really miss this feature. I had it on all of my previous cars, but not my Scala. :/
I actually asked official Skoda service but they checked and said that i have completely different brake modules than a Scala with integrated Hill Hold from factory and its not possible to activate it. :/
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Post by jesse93 on Nov 22, 2020 18:05:46 GMT
Is it Scala or Kamiq? Scala
Is hill hold activated? Nope
Manual or DSG? (all DSGs are equipped with hill hold) Manual
Hardware number of ABS unit: 2Q0614517N
Software number of ABS unit: 2Q0614517AP
Hardware version: H23
Engine type and horsepower: 1.0 TSI 115HP
Longcoding: 81108B64394781B1D1FE9C1724DA62A64962AD06224A24584C541255452446659246B5604452241A322A48AAA249D60B3F926BD0FC242424242424
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Post by scalastyle on Feb 8, 2021 20:00:03 GMT
Is it Scala or Kamiq? Scala Is hill hold activated? No Manual or DSG? Manual Hardware number of ABS unit - 2Q0614517N Software number of ABS unit - 2Q0614517AG Engine type and horsepower - 1.0 TSI 85kw 6MT Long Coding: 81108C64394181B531049C1B24E262A64962AD26224A245844541254452446659246B5644452241A222A482AA249D60F7D926BF0BE EDIT: Changing byte 47 - bit 6 (0F to 4F) and byte 51 - bit 1 (F0 to F2) activated hill hold on my Scala. Hope it helps |
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Post by gpav on Mar 17, 2021 8:27:33 GMT
since it seems that user scalastyle posted the solution for long coding can the one-click apps team create the relevant app for scala and kamiq ? (as far as i know they are totally same cars from the electronic side perspective)
it is really useful
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Post by nikos1 on Apr 20, 2021 10:25:43 GMT
Hello Peta2020. I have a Kamiq MY2021 1.6TDI DSG AMBITION. You can find the informations you asked bellow. Also take a look on attached picture for more information. Long Coding of 03 Unit (via ODB11): B21094643D414DB629FCBC1F12E111A64976B106446A24482854525545488865926E8D6022562412142A4AAAA249C7433F92E3C2FCB0AC500D350A Kamiq Yes DSG - AUTO Hardware number of ABS unit:2Q614517N Software number of ABS unit: 2Q614517AP 1.6TDI 115 MY2021 Attachments:
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Post by bismarckizq on Sept 30, 2023 20:05:40 GMT
hello guys, newbie here. i just got my fabia mk4 and trying to figure it out if i can code hill hold
skoda fabia mk4 1.6mpi MT
hardware part number: 2q0614517L
vag number: 2q0614517AR
without HH
sofware coding: 69 12 4B 57 35 44 96 B2 D2 02 AC 1C 22 E0 11 A6 49 D2 49 06 22 4A 24 58 4C 54 22 55 45 44 88 65 92 4B 92 60 44 52 24 1A 32 2A 44 AA A2 29 34 01 17 94 2C 80 E8 4C E4 70 32 27 0E
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without knowing the right bits and bytes. 
B4 D1 01 BC 1A 12 DE 11 A6 49 76 AD 06 22 4A 24 48 4C 54 12 55 45 48 88 65 92 6E B5 60 44 52 24 12 32 2A 48 AA A2 49 D6 0B 3F 92 6B D0 FC B0 AC 50 0D 35 0A
