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Post by wippo567 on Jul 8, 2020 4:53:49 GMT
Hi all, I recently bought the Chinese OEM auto-folding mirrors with 2 door modules (driver and passenger). I have a trendline 2015 VW Golf TDI (lowest trim in Canada) and research says I need to update my door modules ending with 392(passenger)/393(driver) to 592/593 respectively. I literally copied the long coding from my previous '3' module to the '5' module. After copying over the long coding from the old module to the new one, I had to enable power folding mirrors on both. The auto-folding works (somewhat) so I know the mirrors are fine. My problem now is that the modules cause the following: I am running out of ideas on where to figure out what went wrong. These are brand new modules and had the coding of 0000000000000000 when I plugged them in. I even tried the functions above (except for the folding mirrors) with the 0000000000000000 and nothing seems to work. I replug back the '3' modules and everything functions fine except the coding didn't work for the auto folding mirrors - obviously. The new switch works with the module '3' as well. Did I need to copy over the adaptations too? Am I missing something? |
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Post by ViĆ on Jul 8, 2020 20:28:20 GMT
not to seem rude but did you install 593 module on driver side and 592 module on passenger side ?
Because something seems off with the driver door module 593 as if the power output is sent to the motors the "wrong way"
Did you take a screenshot of the longcoding "helper" or did you just copy paste the longcoding string?
(longcoding from old Driver door module and only copied to new Driver door module and longcoding from old Passenger door module being copied only to new Passenger door module)
Are the adaptions the same ? ( no idea how important it is but might aswell check)
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Post by wippo567 on Jul 9, 2020 4:37:02 GMT
not to seem rude but did you install 593 module on driver side and 592 module on passenger side ? Because something seems off with the driver door module 593 as if the power output is sent to the motors the "wrong way" Did you take a screenshot of the longcoding "helper" or did you just copy paste the longcoding string? (longcoding from old Driver door module and only copied to new Driver door module and longcoding from old Passenger door module being copied only to new Passenger door module) Are the adaptions the same ? ( no idea how important it is but might aswell check) No not rude at all!  I am grateful that you responded. I did check to make sure the part numbers corresponded with the correct door. There weren't that many adaptation to choose from. I copied and pasted the long coding to avoid erroneous inputs. This was done from a backup from the modules. I tried looking for coding that had to do with right hand drive and left hand drive. This only reversed the switches around. I installed another brand new door modules and same thing is happening. Are the folding mirrors only compatible with certain door modules? I have two new door modules from two different suppliers that say they are new. |
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Post by 2018gti on Jul 9, 2020 19:20:51 GMT
Hi wippo567, I think I read once that this weird behavior can happen if the door controllers has parameters for the wrong car, e.g. Audi. If checking the adaptations doesn't work, you might need a tool like VCP or ODIS to parameterize the wonky door module for a Golf. Or.. send it back if possible and find one that you know is from a Golf (easier and cheaper option likely).
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on Jul 9, 2020 21:11:50 GMT
wippo: just read your story of woe - very weird! Can you post-up a copy of your history report please? I'm purely guessing, but there may be some insights into the odd behavior in the coding changes that you made after the fitment of the mirrors - maybe?
Don
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Post by wippo567 on Jul 9, 2020 22:10:31 GMT
Hi wippo567, I think I read once that this weird behavior can happen if the door controllers has parameters for the wrong car, e.g. Audi. If checking the adaptations doesn't work, you might need a tool like VCP or ODIS to parameterize the wonky door module for a Golf. Or.. send it back if possible and find one that you know is from a Golf (easier and cheaper option likely). Might have to do that. Shipping the modules costs the same as the module. Shipping anything from Canada costs an arm and a leg haha. wippo: just read your story of woe - very weird! Can you post-up a copy of your history report please? I'm purely guessing, but there may be some insights into the odd behavior in the coding changes that you made after the fitment of the mirrors - maybe? Don Hi Don, These are the history logs for both passenger and driver modules prior to coding the folding mirrors and door puddle lights. history-Passenger.txt (17.73 KB) history-Driver.txt (16.82 KB) |
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Post by ofektal8 on Jul 10, 2020 18:48:54 GMT
Tip: always buy used modules unless you have the right tools for brand new "virgin" modules.
If there arent any errors and coding cant fix it i would try to buy a used module instead of the one that is working the opposite than it should, these modules are inexpensive so buying a used one is a pretty good solution.
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Post by wippo567 on Jul 11, 2020 6:09:48 GMT
Hi wippo567, I think I read once that this weird behavior can happen if the door controllers has parameters for the wrong car, e.g. Audi. If checking the adaptations doesn't work, you might need a tool like VCP or ODIS to parameterize the wonky door module for a Golf. Or.. send it back if possible and find one that you know is from a Golf (easier and cheaper option likely). I have found something on Ross-Tech that someone had the same issue as I did. I used some keywords you mentioned in Google and found a mention of ODIS. forums.ross-tech.com/showthread.php?8221-MQB-Folding-mirrors-retrofitsApparently the user bought new modules like I did and after going to a technician who was able to reparamatize the door modules, everything was working again. I am currently looking for a tech who can do this. My friend who works at the dealership says he will be able to find a tech. I'll report back once I give it a shot. Tip: always buy used modules unless you have the right tools for brand new "virgin" modules. If there arent any errors and coding cant fix it i would try to buy a used module instead of the one that is working the opposite than it should, these modules are inexpensive so buying a used one is a pretty good solution. For sure. Next time I replace a something, I'll consider replacing it with something that works haha  |
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Post by 2018gti on Jul 12, 2020 3:46:47 GMT
Good find, that thread is likely the same one that I was thinking of! That's good to hear you're getting it sorted out. Definitely report back, I'm curious to see what the solution is.
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Post by wippo567 on Jul 21, 2020 18:43:12 GMT
So here's a bit of an update. I was unable to get them working. The dealership had advised me that they were unable to reparameterize the door via online coding as the door module is not recognized for this car. They said the part number and the software numbers might not match. I asked if I were to buy used modules and have them recode them will it work. They said they will still have to reparameterize it. My next best solution would be to buy new modules or used modules off a Comfortline or Highline. I'll need to source out the parts with the right software numbers. At this point, I am not 100% sure if I want to go through with this. Anyone who has a 393/392 module, I would be inclined not to recommend this modification. I heard of people getting them to work on the low-level trims but have yet to see it.
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Post by ofektal8 on Jul 22, 2020 4:30:31 GMT
If you buy the correct Used module, that came off a car, it will only need coding to work.
It was on a car so it has to work and you shouldnt need to do anything to it but coding.
Usually the dealers dont know a lot about retrofitting, they follow instructions.
The smaller private shops are the more experienced and can help you a lot more.
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Post by wippo567 on Jul 22, 2020 4:36:38 GMT
If you buy the correct Used module, that came off a car, it will only need coding to work. It was on a car so it has to work and you shouldnt need to do anything to it but coding. Usually the dealers dont know a lot about retrofitting, they follow instructions. The smaller private shops are the more experienced and can help you a lot more. Thats what I was hoping to hear. They did point me to a private shop and recommended I get coding done from them. Did you have this retrofit done? |
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Post by ofektal8 on Jul 22, 2020 4:49:14 GMT
If you buy the correct Used module, that came off a car, it will only need coding to work. It was on a car so it has to work and you shouldnt need to do anything to it but coding. Usually the dealers dont know a lot about retrofitting, they follow instructions. The smaller private shops are the more experienced and can help you a lot more. Thats what I was hoping to hear. They did point me to a private shop and recommended I get coding done from them. Did you have this retrofit done? I did it myself, its a really simple retrofit, as long as everything is functional as it should you only need the new modules and to match the coding to your car. Again, i always recommend buying a Used Module if you dont have the right tools to deal with a brand new one. |
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Post by wippo567 on Aug 9, 2020 2:08:04 GMT
SUCCESS! I spoke to the seller and he advised me that the modules do work and ODIS-E was needed to write the data set for the new modules. He provided me with 2 .XML files for the passenger and driver door. I asked my friend at the dealership, he said that VW won't upload any data sets as it is a safety issue they aren't willing to take responsibility for it. I am guessing whatever is on the VW server for my car doesn't match with the part number/software number I bought. After looking around locally for someone who has ODIS-E, I was able to find someone who could help. He wasn't too familiar or remembered how to connect it to the car. After 2 weeks of figuring it out, we connected it, uploaded the module data sets respectively and everything worked. Mirrors fold when they are supposed to and windows, locks, and mirrors all function as they should. Overall, I learned so much about parts and programming. ODIS-E is a great tool as its does way more in-depth coding than OBDEleven. I don't think I will ever need to use it again but the guy I dealt with said I am more than welcome to use it again if I go to him. The lesson here (like what ofektal8 said), don't buy new units/modules if you don't have the right tools to deal with the brand new ones. Edit: Found out that I have the reverse dip memory installed with these modules! I have lost the child lock window function. Plugging back my old module the function works. Is there any long coding for that or adaptations?  |
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Post by mo on Aug 17, 2021 12:08:28 GMT
Hi , I have the same problem , I bought Chinese folding mirror plus front module for m’y Audi A3 8v , can you help me plz , I don’t have the parameters for ODIS what are the steps and doesn’t work for you you the Chinese module or you replaced them with new one 😭😭😭😭😭😭 iam so frustrated my car windows, central locks , everything switched pllllllllz help
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Post by keggo on Aug 27, 2022 3:28:31 GMT
SUCCESS! I spoke to the seller and he advised me that the modules do work and ODIS-E was needed to write the data set for the new modules. He provided me with 2 .XML files for the passenger and driver door. I asked my friend at the dealership, he said that VW won't upload any data sets as it is a safety issue they aren't willing to take responsibility for it. I am guessing whatever is on the VW server for my car doesn't match with the part number/software number I bought. After looking around locally for someone who has ODIS-E, I was able to find someone who could help. He wasn't too familiar or remembered how to connect it to the car. After 2 weeks of figuring it out, we connected it, uploaded the module data sets respectively and everything worked. Mirrors fold when they are supposed to and windows, locks, and mirrors all function as they should. Overall, I learned so much about parts and programming. ODIS-E is a great tool as its does way more in-depth coding than OBDEleven. I don't think I will ever need to use it again but the guy I dealt with said I am more than welcome to use it again if I go to him. The lesson here (like what ofektal8 said), don't buy new units/modules if you don't have the right tools to deal with the brand new ones. Edit: Found out that I have the reverse dip memory installed with these modules! I have lost the child lock window function. Plugging back my old module the function works. Is there any long coding for that or adaptations? Would you mind sharing the .XML files? I’m in the same boat right now. |
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I am grateful that you responded. I did check to make sure the part numbers corresponded with the correct door. There weren't that many adaptation to choose from. I copied and pasted the long coding to avoid erroneous inputs. This was done from a backup from the modules. I tried looking for coding that had to do with right hand drive and left hand drive. This only reversed the switches around. I installed another brand new door modules and same thing is happening. Are the folding mirrors only compatible with certain door modules? I have two new door modules from two different suppliers that say they are new. 
