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Post by rpj83 on Nov 7, 2016 19:30:17 GMT
I'm sure this would already be discussed if it was possible, but can it be coded to have the door handle access from KESSY active while running. I already have the fob active but figured it's worth a shot to ask.
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on Nov 7, 2016 20:10:56 GMT
I'm sure this would already be discussed if it was possible, but can it be coded to have the door handle access from KESSY active while running. I already have the fob active but figured it's worth a shot to ask. rpj83: Hello - try this: - Select Central Electrics
- Select Security Access
- Enter the magic number 31347
- Select Adaptation
- Search for Access control and select
- Select Funk bei Klemme 15 ein.
- Change setting to active
Don
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Post by rpj83 on Nov 7, 2016 21:14:49 GMT
That was one of the first tweaks I had made. It did make the fob function with the car running but the handle access stays deactivated. I was hoping there was another setting to change to get that working. Thanks for the help Don.
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Post by ryanbensminger on Nov 8, 2016 8:26:55 GMT
That was one of the first tweaks I had made. It did make the fob function with the car running but the handle access stays deactivated. I was hoping there was another setting to change to get that working. Thanks for the help Don. I've done this too, and I want to use the handle lol Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G925A using Tapatalk |
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Post by rpj83 on Nov 22, 2016 2:10:37 GMT
rpj83: Hello - try this: - Select Central Electrics
- Select Security Access
- Enter the magic number 31347
- Select Adaptation
- Search for Access control and select
- Select Funk bei Klemme 15 ein.
- Change setting to active
Don
Hey Don, I think I may have gotten somewhere with this. I was searching through modules and made this coding change.  It didn't change anything but I was wondering if you have any insight. I went through the setup menu on the infotainment and did a factory reset for locks but that didn't help either. I would try to look further under access control but its all in German. Any thoughts? |
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on Nov 22, 2016 3:25:49 GMT
rpj83: Hello - try this: - Select Central Electrics
- Select Security Access
- Enter the magic number 31347
- Select Adaptation
- Search for Access control and select
- Select Funk bei Klemme 15 ein.
- Change setting to active
Don
Hey Don, I think I may have gotten somewhere with this. I was searching through modules and made this coding change. It didn't change anything but I was wondering if you have any insight. I went through the setup menu on the infotainment and did a factory reset for locks but that didn't help either. I would try to look further under access control but its all in German. Any thoughts? rpj83: Hi. So, I assume that my suggestion (for changing the channel on module @ address hex09) wasn't successful?
Sure - you could go through the long coding entries with google translate and see if there is anything interesting in the code-string
As a further option -here's the list of all of the adaptation channels in the KESSY module at address hex05. May be something worth considering in the list as well!
CAN-timeout service-key message 260 ms
Correction value LED dimming 1
Cycletime for voltage monitoring during sleepmode 100 ms
Cyclic interior scan during clamp 15 on 10 s
Deactivating_Of_Start_Stop_Function not activated
Delta value LED dimming curve first point 40 percent dimming 30.00%
Delta value LED dimming curve forth point 100 percent dimming 5.00%
Delta value LED dimming curve second point 60 percent dimming 15.00%
Delta value LED dimming curve third point 80 percent dimming 10.00%
(1)-DeveloperCoding: Key Minder (Byte 1)-Seat Memory: scan after driver door opening not active
(2)-DeveloperCoding: Key Minder (Byte 1)-Seat Memory: scan after driver door opening no KESSY unlocking activated
(3)-DeveloperCoding: Key Minder (Byte 1)-Softtouch mounted installed
(4)-DeveloperCoding: Key Minder (Byte 1)-Retry handling big car / expanded search activated
(5)-DeveloperCoding: Key Minder (Byte 1)-Cyclic interior scan during active warning message "Key not found" not active
(1)-DeveloperCoding: Key Minder (Byte 2)-No locking with ID-transmitter last used interior activated
(2)-DeveloperCoding: Key Minder (Byte 2)-Re-open after passive comfort closing activated
(3)-DeveloperCoding: Key Minder (Byte 2)-Re-open last handling ZV entriegeln
(4)-DeveloperCoding: Key Minder (Byte 2)-Re-open tailgate activated
(5)-DeveloperCoding: Key Minder (Byte 2)-Lock prevention tailgate not active
(6)-DeveloperCoding: Key Minder (Byte 2)-Inhibit ID-transmitter for passive go activated
(7)-DeveloperCoding: Key Minder (Byte 2)-Send numbers of ID-transmitters interior (ELV-Scan) activated
(1)-DeveloperCoding: Passiv Entry Exit (Byte 1)-Impairment Entry / Exit key on low battery not active
(2)-DeveloperCoding: Passiv Entry Exit (Byte 1)-Passive Exit: access door not open activated
(3)-DeveloperCoding: Passiv Entry Exit (Byte 1)-Passive Exit: all doors not open not active
(4)-DeveloperCoding: Passiv Entry Exit (Byte 1)-lf_crc not active
(1)-DeveloperCoding: Passiv Entry Exit (Byte 2)-Passive Entry Exit: control by pulling door handle during active DSL activated
(2)-DeveloperCoding: Passiv Entry Exit (Byte 2)-Passive Entry Exit activated
(3)-DeveloperCoding: Passiv Entry Exit (Byte 2)-Passive Entry: second control concept not active
(4)-DeveloperCoding: Passiv Entry Exit (Byte 2)-Passive Entry Exit: retry with antennastep 1 activated
(5)-DeveloperCoding: Passiv Entry Exit (Byte 2)-Passive Entry at door locked/safed OR ZV safed activated
(1)-DeveloperCoding: Passiv Go-Passive Go activated
(2)-DeveloperCoding: Passiv Go-GO only via antenna IN1 if tailgate open not active
(3)-DeveloperCoding: Passiv Go-GO only via antenna IN1 if sliding door open not active
(4)-DeveloperCoding: Passiv Go-Passive Go: tailgate authorized to start activated
(5)-DeveloperCoding: Passiv Go-Change Go antenna during retry challenge activated
(6)-DeveloperCoding: Passiv Go-Change Go antenna at every request not active
(7)-DeveloperCoding: Passiv Go-Impairment go on a low key battery not active
(1)-DeveloperCoding: Proximity Sensor-AUDI doorknobs mounted not active
(2)-DeveloperCoding: Proximity Sensor-Proximity Sensor: sensor stays active after fault detection activated
(3)-DeveloperCoding: Proximity Sensor-Detection of an repeated failed doorknob actuation activated
(4)-DeveloperCoding: Proximity Sensor-Suppress fault manager entry "Falschverbau aktiv" Fehlerspeichereintrag wird nicht unterdrueckt
(5)-DeveloperCoding: Proximity Sensor-No turn off for driver doorknob while passive Fahrertürgriff wird nicht abgeschaltet
(6)-DeveloperCoding: Proximity Sensor-Easy Trunk not active
(1)-DeveloperCoding: Search lights-ZAT active during clamp 58xt on activated
(2)-DeveloperCoding: Search lights-Standardisation of ZAT activated
(3)-DeveloperCoding: Search lights-ZAT detecting open load not active
(1)-DeveloperCoding: Sonstiges-Backdoor TSG not installed
(2)-DeveloperCoding: Sonstiges-Response extension for scan procedure not active
(3)-DeveloperCoding: Sonstiges-Diagnostic: service 86 - response on event not active
(4)-DeveloperCoding: Sonstiges-internal not active
(5)-DeveloperCoding: Sonstiges-Use default antenna data not active
(6)-DeveloperCoding: Sonstiges-Battery manager mounted activated
(7)-DeveloperCoding: Sonstiges-Scan Procedure: Timeoutcontrol active activated
(1)-DeveloperCoding: vehicle environment-Steering wheel right-hand drive
(2)-DeveloperCoding: vehicle environment-Convertible not active
(3)-DeveloperCoding: vehicle environment-Pre Catch for Trunk installed
Diagnostic: wait time after power on 3000 ms
Doorknob contact sensor disconnecting time 5400 min
Interior scan: deceleration after comfort closing 3200 ms
Interior scan: max. engine speed for standing engine 10 km/h
Interior scan: opening threshold sliding roof 1%
Interior scan: opening threshold window lifter 5.00%
Interior scan: Speed - threshold 20 km/h
internal 0 B
Key Minder: delay reunlocking tailgate 500 ms
Key Minder: p_keyless_eventsearch_holding_time 10 s
Key Minder: p_keyless_eventsearch_retries 4
LED dimming curve first point 20 percent dimming 40.00%
MCTX Pause 1 B
MCTX pause for Go / Key Minder 20 ms
MCTX pause for Go authentification 14 B
MCTX settling phase 7 B
Passive Entry Exit: control by pulling the door handle during active DSL (timeout) 2.00 s
Passive Entry Exit: entry request e-sliding door active time 500 ms
Passive Entry Exit: minimum activity time locking sensor 140 ms
Passive Entry Exit: PARA_T_TIMOUT_PROXIMITY_ENTRY 210 ms
Passive Entry Exit: T_ACT_OP_2 5000 ms
Proximity Sensor: Comfort Exit-Enlargement 200 ms
Proximity Sensor: duration of proximity Signal 10 s
Proximity Sensor: lower limit Impuls 2000 µs
Proximity Sensor: lower limit proximity-Impuls 12200 µs
Proximity Sensor: max Vehiclespeed for a standing vehicle 10.0 km/h
Proximity Sensor: max. Impulslength 75 ms
Proximity Sensor: max. Impulslength of proximity-Impuls 20400 µs
Proximity Sensor: max. intermission-length Diagnostic 14 ms
Proximity Sensor: max. length of Diagnosticimpuls 71 ms
Proximity Sensor: max. length of Entryimpuls 10400 µs
Proximity Sensor: max. length of Exitimpuls 40400 µs
Proximity sensor: max. length of signal hall sensor 100 s
Proximity Sensor: max. signal-length 120 s
Proximity Sensor: min Vehiclespeed for a driving vehicle 20.0 km/h
Proximity Sensor: min. enginespeed for a running engine 300 /min
Proximity Sensor: min. length of Diagnosticimpuls 42 ms
Proximity Sensor: min. length of Entryimpuls 6200 µs
Proximity Sensor: min. length of Exitimpuls 24200 µs
Proximity Sensor: SP_X2 10 min
Proximity Sensor: SP_X3 1
Proximity Sensor: SP_X4 80
Proximity Sensor: SP_X5 1
Proximity Sensor: SP_X6 30 min
Proximity Sensor: SP_X7 1
Proximity Sensor: Time Power On 1960 ms
Proximity Sensor: Timervalue for ExitReverseOption 0 ms
Proximity sensor: turn-off limit from battery-manager 2
Proximity Sensor: upper limit intermission-length 10 ms
Reduced current for transponder-ID request 0 Step
Scan Procedure: current limiting on undervoltage at Go-protocol 5 Step
Scan Procedure: cycle convenience coverage limiting 65 ms
Scan Procedure: Number of Repeats 1
Scan Procedure: p_keyless_eventsuche_retries_pause 1000 ms
Scan Procedure: Timeout Authentification Result 150 ms
Scan Procedure: timeout ID-transmitter ready-to-receive after LF-error (Go) 190 ms
Scan Procedure: timeout ID-transmitter ready-to-receive after LF-error (Kombi) 700 ms
Scan Procedure: Timeout LF Repetition 100 ms
ScanProcedure: Timeout Entry Response 260 ms
ScanProcedure: Timeout Response 100 ms
Standard dimming value ZAT 80%
Stop_enabling_for_Start_/_Stop_function According to function requirements
Time Sensor Power Off Group 2 3600 min
Voltage monitoring: overvoltage Delta 500 mV
Voltage monitoring: overvoltage for KESSY ECU 16000 mV
Voltage monitoring: overvoltage for Keyless Go 27000 mV
Voltage monitoring: overvoltage Jumpstart 2 Delta 0 mV
Voltage monitoring: undervoltage Delta 500 mV
Voltage monitoring: undervoltage for KESSY ECU 9000 mV
Voltage monitoring: undervoltage for Keyless Go 6000 mV
Voltage monitoring: undervoltage Jumpstart 1 Delta 0 mV
ZAT init value 0%
ZAT nominal voltage 13.0 V
ZAT post-carridge during clamp 15 off 10 min
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Post by rpj83 on Dec 13, 2016 2:51:25 GMT
So I can confirm that the coding change I previously posted has worked on an R, but not on 2 GTIs that I tried it on. All 3 were 2016 models. Can the control module be different in the R or is there something else I can look into?
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Post by rpj83 on Dec 22, 2016 3:40:51 GMT
I was messing around with this a little more and comparing info between my module and the module in an R. Everything about the module, other than serial numbers, were identical. Anyone have any ideas of what is different about the R? I also noticed that the light on the remote does flash when touching the door handle, like it is trying to work, but just doesn't lock or unlock.
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on Dec 22, 2016 5:24:23 GMT
I was messing around with this a little more and comparing info between my module and the module in an R. Everything about the module, other than serial numbers, were identical. Anyone have any ideas of what is different about the R? I also noticed that the light on the remote does flash when touching the door handle, like it is trying to work, but just doesn't lock or unlock. rpj83: Wow, I admire your tenacity - you must really want this feature on your car? So - if there is no variation in the KESSY module between the R and GTI, perhaps the answer lies in the Central electrics module (@ address hex09). This module contains a bunch of adaptation channels with the Parent descriptor Access control and Access control 2. You could compare the settings for the two cars - if you want to persevere with the feature Don |
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Post by happyphunn on Jan 8, 2017 2:33:25 GMT
So I can confirm that the coding change I previously posted has worked on an R, but not on 2 GTIs that I tried it on. All 3 were 2016 models. Can the control module be different in the R or is there something else I can look into? I can also confirm this worked on my '16 R. I've enabled this as well as the locking ability from the remote. The last piece to tie this all together would be to be able to actually, yes this is crazy, press the lock button on the driver's side door while the engine is running and the door is open. Anyone know if this is possible? |
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Post by olafthegolf on Aug 14, 2020 0:53:17 GMT
Has Anyone had it tell you that it’s not supported on the app? Also I’ve done the steps but can’t find access control after doing the security and then going to adaptation.
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Post by vwjap on Aug 14, 2020 10:42:44 GMT
Try looking for ZV allgemein
Looks like it’s not supported because you have a newer module, and like you the app can’t find access control
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Post by ax686 on Sept 3, 2023 5:44:08 GMT
Can someone share the instructions because i would really like this to work on my car
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on Sept 3, 2023 22:08:14 GMT
My initial instructions for this tweak were written for an early model mk7. If your car was built after about mid 2016 (depends on the model/country), the central electrics module will have a different adaptation channel database (as vwjap has indicated). For the newer style modules, try this: - Select Central Electrics
- Select Security Access
- Enter the magic number 31347
- Select Adaptation
- Search for ZV allgemein and select
- Select Funk bei Klemme 15 ein.
- Change setting to active
Don
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Post by WholemealDrop on Jan 6, 2024 16:58:21 GMT
Hey Don, been reading a lot of your posts and came across wanting to do "Lock car with engine running." I have a 2017 Sport DSG so I see the instructions you gave in this quote but when I try to save it I get "(31) Function not available." Is there something I need to do?
Don't know what fixed it but was able to set it now!
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