Is it possible to code so DRL stays on while on low beam?

vikmeister
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Is it possible to code so DRL stays on while on low beam? Feb 16, 2017 12:25:47 GMT

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Post by vikmeister on Feb 16, 2017 12:25:47 GMT

Thanks a lot Don,

That did work a treat..

Had the below ones set to -> Blinken rechts aktiv (beide Phasen)

Lichtfunktion C 2 > Standlicht allgemein (Schlusslicht; Positionslicht; Begrenzungslicht)
Lichtfunktion C 3 > Standlicht allgemein (Schlusslicht; Positionslicht; Begrenzungslicht)
Lichtfunktion C 4 > Standlicht allgemein (Schlusslicht; Positionslicht; Begrenzungslicht)
Lichtfunktion C 5 > Standlicht allgemein (Schlusslicht; Positionslicht; Begrenzungslicht)

All is working fine now..

Thanks again..
Vicky

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Is it possible to code so DRL stays on while on low beam? Mar 23, 2017 21:39:08 GMT

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Post by kingbowser on Mar 23, 2017 21:39:08 GMT

Sept 23, 2016 2:59:58 GMT dv52 (Australia) said:

Right-side DRL

Left-side DRL

Hey don,

I did this modification yet it isn't working (I figured I'd post here instead of the other forum) I have a NAR mk7R with bixenons. Can you help me out?

dv52 (Australia)
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Is it possible to code so DRL stays on while on low beam? Mar 24, 2017 1:34:25 GMT

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Post by dv52 (Australia) on Mar 24, 2017 1:34:25 GMT

Mar 23, 2017 21:39:08 GMT kingbowser said:

Sept 23, 2016 2:59:58 GMT dv52 (Australia) said:

Right-side DRL

Left-side DRL

Hey don,

I did this modification yet it isn't working (I figured I'd post here instead of the other forum) I have a NAR mk7R with bixenons. Can you help me out?

Kingbrowser: hmm, hello again................. the guy with the new webpage (I still don't understand your business model - but never mind! ).

As I have said on a number of instances (here and elsewhere) VW have so many different arrangements for their headlights that it's difficult to make sweeping statements about what could be the problem in any one instance. But if you paste-up the entries from your history file, I can at least see your factory settings.

However,I suspect that the answer to your problem lies elsewhere - given the NAR nature of you vehicle, my suspicion is that your issue might be related to your country's DOT rules generally and in particular, the NAR regulation restriction that your country imbeds into the range control module that results from this code (no more than two lights switched-on at any one time). The video below (which was made by a good friend and colleague on another forum LIJetta_18t) explains eloquently (and in an accent that you might understand better than my Aussie drawl) how to remove this restriction - albeit in VCDS, but the translation to OBD11 speak ain't that difficult! '

Don

Last Edit: Mar 24, 2017 1:41:49 GMT by dv52 (Australia)

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Is it possible to code so DRL stays on while on low beam? Mar 25, 2017 1:01:57 GMT

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Post by kingbowser on Mar 25, 2017 1:01:57 GMT

Don,

The website thing is still in it's idea phase, I just wanted to hit you up before I did anything as i'd be consolidating a lot of your input. Work has me so tied down I don't know if I'll actually get it up.

In any case I thought I had already deactivated the NAR restrictions, but I guess I'll go back and check. I'll follow up once I check it out.

Guest Guest	Is it possible to code so DRL stays on while on low beam? Apr 10, 2017 18:11:26 GMT via mobile Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by Guest on Apr 10, 2017 18:11:26 GMT Hi Don i have applied this tweek to my car everything working great but the turn signals go realy fast wen i singal. Id like to keep this tweek but is ther anything i can do to fix the turn signals.

dv52 (Australia)
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Is it possible to code so DRL stays on while on low beam? Apr 10, 2017 23:18:18 GMT

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Post by dv52 (Australia) on Apr 10, 2017 23:18:18 GMT

Apr 10, 2017 18:11:26 GMT Guest said:

Hi Don i have applied this tweak to my car everything working great but the turn signals go really fast wen i signal. Id like to keep this tweek but is ther anything i can do to fix the turn signals.

hmmm.............. I tried this tweak before I posted it here - plus the tweak doesn't touch any of the channels in the Leuchte-sets for the two front turn signal lamps. So, your observations are real strange. How about you post-up a copy of your History report for the Central electric module? It's done as per the instructions below.

Don

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Is it possible to code so DRL stays on while on low beam? Oct 16, 2017 13:02:21 GMT via mobile

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Post by g40will on Oct 16, 2017 13:02:21 GMT

Sept 23, 2016 2:59:58 GMT dv52 (Australia) said:

Sept 22, 2016 17:45:09 GMT ugmac said:

Thanks Don.
Here are the screenshots.

ugmac: Thanks for the screenshots.

Hmm....................looks like someone has done some work on this Leuchte-set!

Not sure what's happening in the CD alpha pair in your picture- the combination of the DRL-wink command (i.e. Blinken links aktiv (beide Phasen)) and the Single-Sided-Parking-light (SSPL) command (i.e. Parklicht links (beidseitiges Parklicht aktiviert li & re)) together in the same Alpa pair is real odd. But even more strange is the Dimmwert CD setting of 100 when used with a Dimming Direction CD setting of minimize. Why would this strange mix of values be used?

Anyhow, rather than your current-settings doing my head-in, I started from scratch and assumed that you want to keep DRL wink and SSPL functions on the DRLs.

So the two pictures below are the new settings for the Right-side DRL (which is Leuchte3SL VRB21) and the Left-side DRL (which is Leuchte2SL VLB10). I've designed the tweak so that the illumination level of the DRL when the Parking Lights are on is 100%. This means that the DRLs are illuminated ALL of the time that the ignition switch is turned-on - I assume this is what you want. I decided long ago when I first started designing these tweaks for others not to be their moral conscience - nevertheless, I would urge you to please consider if this tweak is "friendly" to on-coming traffic at night and if it is legal where you live!

I've also not followed the usual factory practice of VW to put the Parking Light function and the SSPL function together in the same alpha pair and giving both the same illumination level. Because you wanted the Parking Light to be illuminated at 100%, I've put the SSPL function in a separate alpha-pair and I've given this activity an illumination level of 26 % - which is the factory setting for SSPL. Even though you have LED lights in the DRL fittings, the 26% value helps reduce the current drawn from the battery in SSPL mode. As I said, this is how VW sets-up this function.

Finally, because the DRL illumination has been made so high from this tweak, I guarded against the possibility that glare from these lamps overwhelm the turn signal. For this reason, I have given the DRL wink function the highest priority. This means that DRL wink works even when the headlights are switched-on. As I said, I've done this as a safety issue to compensate for the (possible) additional glare to on-coming traffic from the now bright DRL. So, I suggest that you don't remove the DRL wink function

Don

PS: If you implement my changes- please be careful when selecting the settings (and make sure that you use the correct "links"/"rechts" commands)

Right-side DRL

Left-side DRL

Hi all. New member here with a U.K 2014 GTD.

I have set these values as I wanted a way to ensure the drl U’s blinked when indicating (turn signaling) but it seems to have activated the Xenon dipped beam on all the time when in auto light switch setting which wasn’t my understanding.

Please could someone advise what setting to change to achieve normal light operation and have the deals wink whilst indicating.

Many thanks, Will.

g40will New Member Posts: 2	Is it possible to code so DRL stays on while on low beam? Oct 16, 2017 18:06:24 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by g40will on Oct 16, 2017 18:06:24 GMT My bad, I think both the times i had checked, it had been dark enough here to activate normal dipped beam as today in brighter weather only the drl's illuminated.

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Is it possible to code so DRL stays on while on low beam? Jul 20, 2018 16:04:57 GMT

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Post by kingowe on Jul 20, 2018 16:04:57 GMT

Hello all (and Don!),

I know I’m bumping a bit of an older thread, but the information posted is still relevant and what I used to troubleshoot so far.

I live in Canada and have a 2016 Golf R. The car has AFS (hopefully the proper VW term) where the low/shuttered high beam is a projector housing, the low/high beams rotate when cornering and there are static cornering lights when turning/signaling with the lights switched to on. Also if I leave the switch in auto, the low beams will come on automatically when it gets dark.

Anyway, I can’t figure out how to get the LED U-shaped DRLs to work. Here’s what currently happens:

1. Light switch moved from off to parking lights:
- Little amber light in the outer lower corner of headlights goes on
- Little white light on post of the inner U goes on
- Passenger-side outer U lights up for half a second, then goes out
- Driver-side inner U lights up for less than half a second, then goes out

2. Light switch moved from off to on:
- Same as above but low beams also turn on

So far (thanks to this forum) I have tried the following with no luck:
- Enabling the DRL selection menu in the infotainment unit and checking the box does
- Applying all settings in the screenshots Don posted 22-Sep-16 (my current settings)
- Applying factory default settings Don posted 24-Sep-16

Don, is this something you’ve come across before? It sounds a bit like what jdmgolf was experiencing with his Japanese market car, except my LED U lights flash on for a split second before going off (driver inner U and passenger outer U). I’m sure I need to adjust DRL settings, but I’m not sure which ones to alter.

Ultimately what I would like to achieve is:

1. Light switch in off position:
- No lights at all (which I think I can select through infotainment screen)

2. Light switch moved to parking lights:
- Little amber light in the outer lower corner of headlights goes on
- Little white light on post of the inner U goes on
- All 4 LED U lights (2 per headlamp, 2 headlamps) turn on to 75%
- When signaling, both LED U lights dim to 25%

3. Light switch moved to on:
- Little amber light in the outer lower corner of headlights goes on
- Little white light on post of the inner U goes on
- All 4 LED U lights (2 per headlamp, 2 headlamps) turn on to 25%
- Low beam bulbs in both headlights go on

Don, any chance you could share some of your Australia wisdom and help sort me out! Currently my settings match the screenshots you previously posted.

Thanks, any help would be appreciated!
Owen

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Is it possible to code so DRL stays on while on low beam? Jul 21, 2018 0:16:08 GMT

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Post by kingowe on Jul 21, 2018 0:16:08 GMT

Jul 20, 2018 16:04:57 GMT kingowe said:

Hello all (and Don!),

I know I’m bumping a bit of an older thread, but the information posted is still relevant and what I used to troubleshoot so far.

I live in Canada and have a 2016 Golf R. The car has AFS (hopefully the proper VW term) where the low/shuttered high beam is a projector housing, the low/high beams rotate when cornering and there are static cornering lights when turning/signaling with the lights switched to on. Also if I leave the switch in auto, the low beams will come on automatically when it gets dark.

Anyway, I can’t figure out how to get the LED U-shaped DRLs to work. Here’s what currently happens:

1. Light switch moved from off to parking lights:
- Little amber light in the outer lower corner of headlights goes on
- Little white light on post of the inner U goes on
- Passenger-side outer U lights up for half a second, then goes out
- Driver-side inner U lights up for less than half a second, then goes out

2. Light switch moved from off to on:
- Same as above but low beams also turn on

So far (thanks to this forum) I have tried the following with no luck:
- Enabling the DRL selection menu in the infotainment unit and checking the box does
- Applying all settings in the screenshots Don posted 22-Sep-16 (my current settings)
- Applying factory default settings Don posted 24-Sep-16

Don, is this something you’ve come across before? It sounds a bit like what jdmgolf was experiencing with his Japanese market car, except my LED U lights flash on for a split second before going off (driver inner U and passenger outer U). I’m sure I need to adjust DRL settings, but I’m not sure which ones to alter.

Ultimately what I would like to achieve is:

1. Light switch in off position:
- No lights at all (which I think I can select through infotainment screen)

2. Light switch moved to parking lights:
- Little amber light in the outer lower corner of headlights goes on
- Little white light on post of the inner U goes on
- All 4 LED U lights (2 per headlamp, 2 headlamps) turn on to 75%
- When signaling, both LED U lights dim to 25%

3. Light switch moved to on:
- Little amber light in the outer lower corner of headlights goes on
- Little white light on post of the inner U goes on
- All 4 LED U lights (2 per headlamp, 2 headlamps) turn on to 25%
- Low beam bulbs in both headlights go on

Don, any chance you could share some of your Australia wisdom and help sort me out! Currently my settings match the screenshots you previously posted.

Thanks, any help would be appreciated!
Owen

I also just tried a few other things and it still isn't working. So far, I've tried:

- Enabling DRL selection menu in infotainment unit and checking the box

- Applying all settings in screenshots Don posted 22-Sep-16

- Applying factory default settings Don posted 24-Sep-16
- Changing Adaptation - Daytime running lights - Fahrlicht bei Tag (none of the 4 settings activate them)
- Removing NAR restriction (using YouTube video posted here)
- Applying default settings for Australia Golf R Don posted 15-Feb-17
- Applying default settings for German Golf R Don posted 30-Jan-17

I don't know what is going on with these but I cannot figure it out for the life of me.

Thanks for reading!

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Is it possible to code so DRL stays on while on low beam? Jul 21, 2018 11:09:04 GMT

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Post by dv52 (Australia) on Jul 21, 2018 11:09:04 GMT

^^^ kingowe: true (short) answer is that I don't know why your strange behavior is happening

I guess the first task is to look through the "standard" Leutche-sets for the DRL lamps below :

(1)-Leuchte2SL VLB10-Lasttyp 2 > 4 - LED Tagfahrlichtmodul Signal
(2)-Leuchte2SL VLB10-Lampendefektbitposition 2 > 48
(3)-Leuchte2SL VLB10-Fehlerort mittleres Byte DTC-DFCC 2 > 4A
(4)-Leuchte2SL VLB10-Lichtfunktion A 2 > Daytime running lights
(5)-Leuchte2SL VLB10-Lichtfunktion B 2 > not active
(6)-Leuchte2SL VLB10-Dimmwert AB 2 > 100
(7)-Leuchte2SL VLB10-Lichtansteuerung HD AB 2 > Always
(8)-Leuchte2SL VLB10-Lichtfunktion C 2 > Standlicht allgemein (Schlusslicht; Positionslicht; Begrenzungslicht)
(9)-Leuchte2SL VLB10-Lichtfunktion D 2 > not active
(10)-Leuchte2SL VLB10-Dimmwert CD 2 > 26
(11)-Leuchte2SL VLB10-Dimming Direction CD 2 > maximize
(12)-Leuchte2SL VLB10-Lichtfunktion E 2 > not active
(13)-Leuchte2SL VLB10-Lichtfunktion F 2 > not active
(14)-Leuchte2SL VLB10-Dimmwert EF 2 > 0
(15)-Leuchte2SL VLB10-Dimming Direction EF 2 > maximize
(16)-Leuchte2SL VLB10-Lichtfunktion G 2 > not active
(17)-Leuchte2SL VLB10-Lichtfunktion H 2 > not active
(18)-Leuchte2SL VLB10-Dimmwert GH 2 > 0
(19)-Leuchte2SL VLB10-Dimming Direction GH 2 > maximize
(1)-Leuchte3SL VRB21-Lasttyp 3 > 4 - LED Tagfahrlichtmodul Signal
(2)-Leuchte3SL VRB21-Lampendefektbitposition 3 > 4C
(3)-Leuchte3SL VRB21-Fehlerort mittleres Byte DTC-DFCC 3 > 4C
(4)-Leuchte3SL VRB21-Lichtfunktion A 3 > Daytime running lights
(5)-Leuchte3SL VRB21-Lichtfunktion B 3 > not active
(6)-Leuchte3SL VRB21-Dimmwert AB 3 > 100
(7)-Leuchte3SL VRB21-Lichtansteuerung HD AB 3 > Always
(8)-Leuchte3SL VRB21-Lichtfunktion C 3 > Standlicht allgemein (Schlusslicht; Positionslicht; Begrenzungslicht)
(9)-Leuchte3SL VRB21-Lichtfunktion D 3 > not active
(10)-Leuchte3SL VRB21-Dimmwert CD 3 > 26
(11)-Leuchte3SL VRB21-Dimming Direction CD 3 > maximize
(12)-Leuchte3SL VRB21-Lichtfunktion E 3 > not active
(13)-Leuchte3SL VRB21-Lichtfunktion F 3 > not active
(14)-Leuchte3SL VRB21-Dimmwert EF 3 > 0
(15)-Leuchte3SL VRB21-Dimming Direction EF 3 > maximize
(16)-Leuchte3SL VRB21-Lichtfunktion G 3 > not active
(17)-Leuchte3SL VRB21-Lichtfunktion H 3 > not active
(18)-Leuchte3SL VRB21-Dimmwert GH 3 > 0
(19)-Leuchte3SL VRB21-Dimming Direction GH 3 > maximize
(1)-Leuchte4TFL LB4-Lasttyp 4 > 6 - LED Lichtmodul
(2)-Leuchte4TFL LB4-Lampendefektbitposition 4 > 3A
(3)-Leuchte4TFL LB4-Fehlerort mittleres Byte DTC-DFCC 4 > 49
(4)-Leuchte4TFL LB4-Lichtfunktion A 4 > Daytime running lights
(5)-Leuchte4TFL LB4-Lichtfunktion B 4 > not active
(6)-Leuchte4TFL LB4-Dimmwert AB 4 > 127
(7)-Leuchte4TFL LB4-Lichtansteuerung HD AB 4 > Always
(8)-Leuchte4TFL LB4-Lichtfunktion C 4 > Standlicht allgemein (Schlusslicht; Positionslicht; Begrenzungslicht)
(9)-Leuchte4TFL LB4-Lichtfunktion D 4 > Parklicht links (beidseitiges Parklicht aktiviert li & re)
(10)-Leuchte4TFL LB4-Dimmwert CD 4 > 127
(11)-Leuchte4TFL LB4-Dimming Direction CD 4 > maximize
(12)-Leuchte4TFL LB4-Lichtfunktion E 4 > not active
(13)-Leuchte4TFL LB4-Lichtfunktion F 4 > not active
(14)-Leuchte4TFL LB4-Dimmwert EF 4 > 0
(15)-Leuchte4TFL LB4-Dimming Direction EF 4 > maximize
(16)-Leuchte4TFL LB4-Lichtfunktion G 4 > not active
(17)-Leuchte4TFL LB4-Lichtfunktion H 4 > not active
(18)-Leuchte4TFL LB4-Dimmwert GH 4 > 0
(19)-Leuchte4TFL LB4-Dimming Direction GH 4 > maximize
(1)-Leuchte5 TFL RB32-Lasttyp 5 > 6 - LED Lichtmodul
(2)-Leuchte5 TFL RB32-Lampendefektbitposition 5 > 44
(3)-Leuchte5 TFL RB32-Fehlerort mittleres Byte DTC-DFCC 5 > 4B
(4)-Leuchte5 TFL RB32-Lichtfunktion A 5 > Daytime running lights
(5)-Leuchte5 TFL RB32-Lichtfunktion B 5 > not active
(6)-Leuchte5 TFL RB32-Dimmwert AB 5 > 127
(7)-Leuchte5 TFL RB32-Lichtansteuerung HD AB 5 > Always
(8)-Leuchte5 TFL RB32-Lichtfunktion C 5 > Standlicht allgemein (Schlusslicht; Positionslicht; Begrenzungslicht)
(9)-Leuchte5 TFL RB32-Lichtfunktion D 5 > Parking light right
(10)-Leuchte5 TFL RB32-Dimmwert CD 5 > 127
(11)-Leuchte5 TFL RB32-Dimming Direction CD 5 > maximize
(12)-Leuchte5 TFL RB32-Lichtfunktion E 5 > not active
(13)-Leuchte5 TFL RB32-Lichtfunktion F 5 > not active
(14)-Leuchte5 TFL RB32-Dimmwert EF 5 > 0
(15)-Leuchte5 TFL RB32-Dimming Direction EF 5 > maximize
(16)-Leuchte5 TFL RB32-Lichtfunktion G 5 > not active
(17)-Leuchte5 TFL RB32-Lichtfunktion H 5 > not active
(18)-Leuchte5 TFL RB32-Dimmwert GH 5 > 0
(19)-Leuchte5 TFL RB32-Dimming Direction GH 5 > maximize

If these Leuchte-sets appear to be OK, check the specific Daytime Running Light channels below:

(1)-Daytime running lights-Scheinwerferferreinigungsansteuerung und Abblendlichtanzeige bei Dauerfahrlicht > not active
(2)-Daytime running lights-Tagfahrlicht Aktivierung durch BAP oder Bedienfolge moeglich > not active
(3)-Daytime running lights-Werkseinstellung fuer Tagfahrlicht Freischaltung BAP / Bedienfolge > active
(4)-Daytime running lights-Standlicht aktiviert zusaetzlich Tagfahrlicht > active
(5)-Daytime running lights-Tagfahrlicht Dauerfahrlicht bei Handbremse abschalten > active
(6)-Daytime running lights-Tagfahrlicht-Dauerfahrlicht aktiviert zusaetzlich Standlicht > not active
(7)-Daytime running lights-Tagfahrlichtkontrollleuchte > not active
(8)-Daytime running lights-Fahrlicht bei Tag > Daytime running lights
(9)-Daytime running lights-Tagfahrlicht nur in Schalterstellung AUTO > not active

I've included a complete dataset for all the adaptation channel values for the Central electrics module (@ address hex09) on a 2016 Golf R NAR model HERE. It's a VCDS data file, but it should be easy to translate into OBD11 speak

Last Edit: Jul 21, 2018 11:14:09 GMT by dv52 (Australia)

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Is it possible to code so DRL stays on while on low beam? Jul 29, 2018 22:28:22 GMT

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Post by kingowe on Jul 29, 2018 22:28:22 GMT

Jul 21, 2018 11:09:04 GMT dv52 (Australia) said:

^^^ kingowe: true (short) answer is that I don't know why your strange behavior is happening

I guess the first task is to look through the "standard" Leutche-sets for the DRL lamps below :

(1)-Leuchte2SL VLB10-Lasttyp 2 > 4 - LED Tagfahrlichtmodul Signal
(2)-Leuchte2SL VLB10-Lampendefektbitposition 2 > 48
(3)-Leuchte2SL VLB10-Fehlerort mittleres Byte DTC-DFCC 2 > 4A
(4)-Leuchte2SL VLB10-Lichtfunktion A 2 > Daytime running lights
(5)-Leuchte2SL VLB10-Lichtfunktion B 2 > not active
(6)-Leuchte2SL VLB10-Dimmwert AB 2 > 100
(7)-Leuchte2SL VLB10-Lichtansteuerung HD AB 2 > Always
(8)-Leuchte2SL VLB10-Lichtfunktion C 2 > Standlicht allgemein (Schlusslicht; Positionslicht; Begrenzungslicht)
(9)-Leuchte2SL VLB10-Lichtfunktion D 2 > not active
(10)-Leuchte2SL VLB10-Dimmwert CD 2 > 26
(11)-Leuchte2SL VLB10-Dimming Direction CD 2 > maximize
(12)-Leuchte2SL VLB10-Lichtfunktion E 2 > not active
(13)-Leuchte2SL VLB10-Lichtfunktion F 2 > not active
(14)-Leuchte2SL VLB10-Dimmwert EF 2 > 0
(15)-Leuchte2SL VLB10-Dimming Direction EF 2 > maximize
(16)-Leuchte2SL VLB10-Lichtfunktion G 2 > not active
(17)-Leuchte2SL VLB10-Lichtfunktion H 2 > not active
(18)-Leuchte2SL VLB10-Dimmwert GH 2 > 0
(19)-Leuchte2SL VLB10-Dimming Direction GH 2 > maximize
(1)-Leuchte3SL VRB21-Lasttyp 3 > 4 - LED Tagfahrlichtmodul Signal
(2)-Leuchte3SL VRB21-Lampendefektbitposition 3 > 4C
(3)-Leuchte3SL VRB21-Fehlerort mittleres Byte DTC-DFCC 3 > 4C
(4)-Leuchte3SL VRB21-Lichtfunktion A 3 > Daytime running lights
(5)-Leuchte3SL VRB21-Lichtfunktion B 3 > not active
(6)-Leuchte3SL VRB21-Dimmwert AB 3 > 100
(7)-Leuchte3SL VRB21-Lichtansteuerung HD AB 3 > Always
(8)-Leuchte3SL VRB21-Lichtfunktion C 3 > Standlicht allgemein (Schlusslicht; Positionslicht; Begrenzungslicht)
(9)-Leuchte3SL VRB21-Lichtfunktion D 3 > not active
(10)-Leuchte3SL VRB21-Dimmwert CD 3 > 26
(11)-Leuchte3SL VRB21-Dimming Direction CD 3 > maximize
(12)-Leuchte3SL VRB21-Lichtfunktion E 3 > not active
(13)-Leuchte3SL VRB21-Lichtfunktion F 3 > not active
(14)-Leuchte3SL VRB21-Dimmwert EF 3 > 0
(15)-Leuchte3SL VRB21-Dimming Direction EF 3 > maximize
(16)-Leuchte3SL VRB21-Lichtfunktion G 3 > not active
(17)-Leuchte3SL VRB21-Lichtfunktion H 3 > not active
(18)-Leuchte3SL VRB21-Dimmwert GH 3 > 0
(19)-Leuchte3SL VRB21-Dimming Direction GH 3 > maximize
(1)-Leuchte4TFL LB4-Lasttyp 4 > 6 - LED Lichtmodul
(2)-Leuchte4TFL LB4-Lampendefektbitposition 4 > 3A
(3)-Leuchte4TFL LB4-Fehlerort mittleres Byte DTC-DFCC 4 > 49
(4)-Leuchte4TFL LB4-Lichtfunktion A 4 > Daytime running lights
(5)-Leuchte4TFL LB4-Lichtfunktion B 4 > not active
(6)-Leuchte4TFL LB4-Dimmwert AB 4 > 127
(7)-Leuchte4TFL LB4-Lichtansteuerung HD AB 4 > Always
(8)-Leuchte4TFL LB4-Lichtfunktion C 4 > Standlicht allgemein (Schlusslicht; Positionslicht; Begrenzungslicht)
(9)-Leuchte4TFL LB4-Lichtfunktion D 4 > Parklicht links (beidseitiges Parklicht aktiviert li & re)
(10)-Leuchte4TFL LB4-Dimmwert CD 4 > 127
(11)-Leuchte4TFL LB4-Dimming Direction CD 4 > maximize
(12)-Leuchte4TFL LB4-Lichtfunktion E 4 > not active
(13)-Leuchte4TFL LB4-Lichtfunktion F 4 > not active
(14)-Leuchte4TFL LB4-Dimmwert EF 4 > 0
(15)-Leuchte4TFL LB4-Dimming Direction EF 4 > maximize
(16)-Leuchte4TFL LB4-Lichtfunktion G 4 > not active
(17)-Leuchte4TFL LB4-Lichtfunktion H 4 > not active
(18)-Leuchte4TFL LB4-Dimmwert GH 4 > 0
(19)-Leuchte4TFL LB4-Dimming Direction GH 4 > maximize
(1)-Leuchte5 TFL RB32-Lasttyp 5 > 6 - LED Lichtmodul
(2)-Leuchte5 TFL RB32-Lampendefektbitposition 5 > 44
(3)-Leuchte5 TFL RB32-Fehlerort mittleres Byte DTC-DFCC 5 > 4B
(4)-Leuchte5 TFL RB32-Lichtfunktion A 5 > Daytime running lights
(5)-Leuchte5 TFL RB32-Lichtfunktion B 5 > not active
(6)-Leuchte5 TFL RB32-Dimmwert AB 5 > 127
(7)-Leuchte5 TFL RB32-Lichtansteuerung HD AB 5 > Always
(8)-Leuchte5 TFL RB32-Lichtfunktion C 5 > Standlicht allgemein (Schlusslicht; Positionslicht; Begrenzungslicht)
(9)-Leuchte5 TFL RB32-Lichtfunktion D 5 > Parking light right
(10)-Leuchte5 TFL RB32-Dimmwert CD 5 > 127
(11)-Leuchte5 TFL RB32-Dimming Direction CD 5 > maximize
(12)-Leuchte5 TFL RB32-Lichtfunktion E 5 > not active
(13)-Leuchte5 TFL RB32-Lichtfunktion F 5 > not active
(14)-Leuchte5 TFL RB32-Dimmwert EF 5 > 0
(15)-Leuchte5 TFL RB32-Dimming Direction EF 5 > maximize
(16)-Leuchte5 TFL RB32-Lichtfunktion G 5 > not active
(17)-Leuchte5 TFL RB32-Lichtfunktion H 5 > not active
(18)-Leuchte5 TFL RB32-Dimmwert GH 5 > 0
(19)-Leuchte5 TFL RB32-Dimming Direction GH 5 > maximize

If these Leuchte-sets appear to be OK, check the specific Daytime Running Light channels below:

(1)-Daytime running lights-Scheinwerferferreinigungsansteuerung und Abblendlichtanzeige bei Dauerfahrlicht > not active
(2)-Daytime running lights-Tagfahrlicht Aktivierung durch BAP oder Bedienfolge moeglich > not active
(3)-Daytime running lights-Werkseinstellung fuer Tagfahrlicht Freischaltung BAP / Bedienfolge > active
(4)-Daytime running lights-Standlicht aktiviert zusaetzlich Tagfahrlicht > active
(5)-Daytime running lights-Tagfahrlicht Dauerfahrlicht bei Handbremse abschalten > active
(6)-Daytime running lights-Tagfahrlicht-Dauerfahrlicht aktiviert zusaetzlich Standlicht > not active
(7)-Daytime running lights-Tagfahrlichtkontrollleuchte > not active
(8)-Daytime running lights-Fahrlicht bei Tag > Daytime running lights
(9)-Daytime running lights-Tagfahrlicht nur in Schalterstellung AUTO > not active

I've included a complete dataset for all the adaptation channel values for the Central electrics module (@ address hex09) on a 2016 Golf R NAR model HERE. It's a VCDS data file, but it should be easy to translate into OBD11 speak

Thanks for the quick reply Don! And apologies for the delay on my end; was away for family summer holidays for a week.

Anyway, I checked all standard settings for the 4 lamps you mentioned above, and then checked the specific Daytime Running Light channels. A couple of them changed, but most of them were as expected. After putting all of them to what you wrote above, the conditions are the same.

This time, though I had someone else activate the parking brake so I could see them close up when they switch on for a half second; both of them initially turn on to a brighter setting, then immediately dim a little bit, and then go right out, all within the span of about half a second. Not sure if any of that helps the diagnosis.

I assumed since they flicked on for a split second before going out that it was a software/programming thing (if it was hardware, I figure they wouldn't go on at all). But after verifying my settings all properly match what you sent, I'm not so sure anymore. I would hate to take it to the dealership for such a minor thing, but I'm pretty sure it's a legal thing since the car came with DRLs that are not currently working.

Any other thoughts?

dv52 (Australia) Moderator Posts: 6,070	Is it possible to code so DRL stays on while on low beam? Jul 29, 2018 22:37:29 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by dv52 (Australia) on Jul 29, 2018 22:37:29 GMT ^^^kingowe: strange!!! if the DRLs exhibit the same behavior on both sides of the car, it's unlikely to be a hardware problem. Do you have any error codes in your scan report? Don
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Is it possible to code so DRL stays on while on low beam? Jul 30, 2018 16:09:37 GMT

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Jul 29, 2018 22:37:29 GMT dv52 (Australia) said:

^^^kingowe: strange!!! if the DRLs exhibit the same behavior on both sides of the car, it's unlikely to be a hardware problem. Do you have any error codes in your scan report?

Don

No, no error codes there when I checked.

I also find it strange that only one 1 of the LED U-shaped lights comes on for each side (one being the inner and one being the outer). I would think that all 4 of them would flick on briefly and then shut off.

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Is it possible to code so DRL stays on while on low beam? Jul 30, 2018 16:18:53 GMT dv52 (Australia) likes this

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Sorry, I forgot to mention that for all 4 of the Lichtfunktion (A2, A3, A4, A5), there are 2 "Daytime Running Lights" options.

When I verified everything last night, I selected the first "Daytime Running Lights" for each of the 4 options and tested it. When that did not remedy it, I selected the second "Daytime Running Lights" for each and tested again.

Neither option worked so I don't know that it has anything to do with the problem, but thought it was worth sharing.

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Is it possible to code so DRL stays on while on low beam? Aug 5, 2018 22:58:22 GMT via mobile

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Sept 23, 2016 2:59:58 GMT dv52 (Australia) said:

Sept 22, 2016 17:45:09 GMT ugmac said:

Thanks Don.
Here are the screenshots.

ugmac: Thanks for the screenshots.

Hmm....................looks like someone has done some work on this Leuchte-set!

Not sure what's happening in the CD alpha pair in your picture- the combination of the DRL-wink command (i.e. Blinken links aktiv (beide Phasen)) and the Single-Sided-Parking-light (SSPL) command (i.e. Parklicht links (beidseitiges Parklicht aktiviert li & re)) together in the same Alpa pair is real odd. But even more strange is the Dimmwert CD setting of 100 when used with a Dimming Direction CD setting of minimize. Why would this strange mix of values be used?

Anyhow, rather than your current-settings doing my head-in, I started from scratch and assumed that you want to keep DRL wink and SSPL functions on the DRLs.

So the two pictures below are the new settings for the Right-side DRL (which is Leuchte3SL VRB21) and the Left-side DRL (which is Leuchte2SL VLB10). I've designed the tweak so that the illumination level of the DRL when the Parking Lights are on is 100%. This means that the DRLs are illuminated ALL of the time that the ignition switch is turned-on - I assume this is what you want. I decided long ago when I first started designing these tweaks for others not to be their moral conscience - nevertheless, I would urge you to please consider if this tweak is "friendly" to on-coming traffic at night and if it is legal where you live!

I've also not followed the usual factory practice of VW to put the Parking Light function and the SSPL function together in the same alpha pair and giving both the same illumination level. Because you wanted the Parking Light to be illuminated at 100%, I've put the SSPL function in a separate alpha-pair and I've given this activity an illumination level of 26 % - which is the factory setting for SSPL. Even though you have LED lights in the DRL fittings, the 26% value helps reduce the current drawn from the battery in SSPL mode. As I said, this is how VW sets-up this function.

Finally, because the DRL illumination has been made so high from this tweak, I guarded against the possibility that glare from these lamps overwhelm the turn signal. For this reason, I have given the DRL wink function the highest priority. This means that DRL wink works even when the headlights are switched-on. As I said, I've done this as a safety issue to compensate for the (possible) additional glare to on-coming traffic from the now bright DRL. So, I suggest that you don't remove the DRL wink function

Don

PS: If you implement my changes- please be careful when selecting the settings (and make sure that you use the correct "links"/"rechts" commands)

Right-side DRL

Left-side DRL

Hi Don,

Just for clarity, my goal is to have the DRLs running at 100% all the time. The last time i tried to mod my 2016 s3 via vcds, it worked but then my reverse lights stopped working as did my headlight's ability to dip. My dealership had to end up changing the entire unit which controls electronics. So based on that experience I am a bit timid to proceed even though this time it would be via obdeleven. Any thoughts?

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Is it possible to code so DRL stays on while on low beam? Sept 12, 2018 18:46:45 GMT

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Update:

After scouring the programming with Don's advice not being able to find anything, I caved and took it to the dealership.

They just called and said both headlight control modules are shot and need to be replaced. ~$300CAD each plus labour to get both working properly.

I've been searching online for these light control modules but haven't been able to find much useful info about them; maybe they don't fail all that often.

Anyway, thanks again for your help Don, and everyone!

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Is it possible to code so DRL stays on while on low beam? Sept 14, 2018 14:01:42 GMT

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Update 2:

I picked up the car last night and it was both LED DRL modules (replaced with 4G0-907-697-F), one for each headlight. It wasn't a cheap fix and swapping modules isn't a tough DIY fix, but by the time they had everything apart to diagnose, it made sense just to have them fix it and be done with it.

Hopefully if anyone in the future has the same problem and finds this thread, they can learn from my experience to help diagnose. I've also learned that if the programming stumps Don, the it's not a programming issue so check hardware!

I'll have to redo all programming shortcuts (windows up with fob, selectable DRLs, etc.), but at least my hue DRLs are working now like they're supposed to.

Thanks again for all the online help!!

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Is it possible to code so DRL stays on while on low beam? Nov 12, 2021 18:59:50 GMT via mobile

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Post by scientificharmony on Nov 12, 2021 18:59:50 GMT

Hey Don,

Sorry to resurrect this post, but I have an issue with my DRLs.
Everything is working fine if I had. Lights on Auto, the DRL blinks if i indicate and I also have the dot activated. The issue is that if I turn the light switch to 3rd setting (green logo), only the left DRL is on. I don’t know what setting I need to change to make sure both are on.

Can you help please?

Thanks
Chris

dv52 (Australia) Moderator Posts: 6,070	Is it possible to code so DRL stays on while on low beam? Nov 12, 2021 20:09:00 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by dv52 (Australia) on Nov 12, 2021 20:09:00 GMT Chris: What country, what build year, what type of DRL fittings (LED, or incandescent)? Don
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