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Post by joelms on Apr 2, 2019 23:06:41 GMT
Hello,
Yes, I've searched the boards and I'm not sure what to do next.
Bought OBDEleven with the intention of adding just Mirror Dip on reverse, and I can't get it working.
Installed the app and connected the hardware flawlessly. Used the 10 free credits I had to buy Mirror Dip, followed the instructions and it's not working. First option to check the reverse mirror dip on the entertainment dash and select the "R" Mirror didn't work, so I tried the other option and that didn't work either.
Paid to remove the mirror dip feature, and paid again to add it thinking that would help. Repeated the process and nothing works still.
Am I missing something here? Do I need to pay for the pro version to get this to work? Can anyone help me diagnose this?
EDIT: Is "P Gear" netral in the Standard transmission?
Thanks!
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Post by Jadis on Apr 22, 2019 15:41:32 GMT
I have a 2019 Alltrack SEL 6MT and I spent a good bit of time trying to get the passenger mirror dip coding to work. I did a lot of searching and trying a few different things but I also could not get it to work.
I can get the menu to appear on the infotainment screen but when I put the car in reverse and flip the mirror switch to R (or the reverse order), pushing the knob down doesn't make the mirror dip down to set it.
Oh well.
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on Apr 22, 2019 23:11:17 GMT
Hello, Yes, I've searched the boards and I'm not sure what to do next. Bought OBDEleven with the intention of adding just Mirror Dip on reverse, and I can't get it working. Installed the app and connected the hardware flawlessly. Used the 10 free credits I had to buy Mirror Dip, followed the instructions and it's not working. First option to check the reverse mirror dip on the entertainment dash and select the "R" Mirror didn't work, so I tried the other option and that didn't work either. Paid to remove the mirror dip feature, and paid again to add it thinking that would help. Repeated the process and nothing works still. Am I missing something here? Do I need to pay for the pro version to get this to work? Can anyone help me diagnose this? EDIT: Is "P Gear" netral in the Standard transmission? Thanks! Joel: hmm........... I assume that you turned-on (added a "tick" to) the mirror dip option in the MENU after installing the APP (I never use APPs). If, so and as an alternative, you could try coding the tweak manually like this (it ain't difficult and it costs no credits) : First - check that the passenger-side mirror module actually has the required memory facility to return-back the mirror to the correct starting position when the car moves forward (the trigger for this is normally a forward speed of >10 km/h) :
Note: the actual X/Y coordinate values on your car in the screen-shot "if memory module installed" can be different (but not 255) Second - If the test above is successful, make coding changes like this: - Select the module called Door Electronics Passenger Side (it's @ address hex52)
- Select Long Coding
- Change the highlighted software switches in the screen-shot below to active (note that the setting circled should also be "active" if the test above for memory module installed is successful)
- Go to the Central elec. Module @ address hex09
- Go to Security access
- Enter 31347
- Select Adaptation
- If you have a pre MY16 vehicle, search for Access control 2. If you have a newer car, search for Spiegelverstellung
- Select the adaptation channel called Spiegelabsenkung bei Rueckwaertsfahrt and change to active
- Select the adaptation channel called Menuesteuerung Spiegelabsenkung and change to active (this puts the option to turn-ON/OFF mirror dip in the menu screen).
Don
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Post by nickva on May 10, 2019 1:37:02 GMT
Hi Don, Does it work if the memory module is not installed? Thanks in advance. My is the 2019 GTI rabbit US version.
Nick
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on May 10, 2019 1:49:00 GMT
^^ nic: The answer to your question is "yes and no"!
I've heard of some folk that have been able to get the function to operate without the memory module (that's the "yes" part), but the problem is that the mirror won't return to the correct position when you drive forward at a speed greater than 10 km/h (that's the "no" part). It means that the driver is constantly re-adjusting the mirror position every time that reverse gear is selected (it's got to be a real PITA). Makes sense (to me at least) because if there is no memory capability, then the X/Y coordinates for the mirror position can't be stored - so the door module has no knowledge of the starting points for mirror return. Don
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Post by nickva on May 10, 2019 5:49:58 GMT
Thank you, Don for your quick response. I'll give it a try tomorrow with your code and report back. Since the one touch code in app that burn credit doesn't work for me.
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Post by nickva on May 10, 2019 6:05:30 GMT
Hi Don, I'm pretty new to this as this my first VW. Is there a way to backup the settings? And restore that backup option in case something went wrong? I figured it would have option to do this just like our phone. Please let me know sir when you get a chance. Appreciated your help. Nick
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on May 10, 2019 6:54:29 GMT
nick: hmm.... the strict answer to your question is "yes" - but I suspect not in the way that you envisage!!. There is a away to backup your settings and if you are wise you will do this before you use OBD11 to make any changes. OBD11 has a setting called "Backup" for each of the control modules in your car. My advice - make a COMPLETE database of backups for your car in it's virgin state.
But- and there is always a "but" - restoration of settings can only be done manually: you will need to enter each value one-by-one and then move to the next setting. So - reversion can be a lengthy process: consider the BCM on a mk7 (the module @ address hex09 which OBD11 calls "Central Electrics")- it can have upward of 2,000 adaptation channels. That's a lot of channels to check/save!!
Don
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Post by nickva on May 10, 2019 8:40:28 GMT
Thank you for your quick response and advised Don.
Nick
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Post by nickva on May 10, 2019 11:40:15 GMT
I Did set memory_mirror, mirror_with_rear_gear and position_memory_with_rear_gear to active and saved successful. But under Adaption, I don't have the channels you're mentioned.
See screenshot Don
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on May 10, 2019 22:54:34 GMT
nick: I must apology - the problem was entirely one of my making. I incorrectly assumed that the reader would understand that the adaptation channels in my post were in the Central elec module.
I've written quite a few instructions and I continuously have to remind myself not to assume too much - clearly in this case, I've transgressed my own standards!
Anyhow - I've fixed my instructions by adding a few more steps - please try again. Once more, my apology.
Don
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Post by nickva on May 11, 2019 0:49:42 GMT
No worry, Don. You're the OBD master and a great access to the community. I truly appreciated you take your personal time to help. I'll try tomorrow and report back. Thanks again, Don.
N.
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Post by nickva on May 11, 2019 10:19:49 GMT
It's said to report I did completed all the changed but when I put in reverse, the passenger mirror did not move (tilt). It's a no go for 2019 GTI rabbit.
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Post by nickva on May 11, 2019 10:23:23 GMT
Also I did check in the head unit Mirrors and wipers menu tick the mirror dip in the menu screen and the knob turned to R.
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Post by lickwid on Jul 29, 2019 3:17:18 GMT
Looks like you never got this working? I'm trying this on a 2019 E-Golf, both manually coding it, and also using the apps. Appears the app makes the same 4 changes. Menu option is enabled and shows up and is checkmarked. Unfortunately, I cannot calibrate the mirror dip the first time, nor can I get it working. Once I move toggle to R, put it in reverse, then adjust my mirror to the curb. It never resets back to the neutral setting. It never moves. Doesn't move when I turn toggle to O or L and doesn't move when I move from R gear to P or N. I don't know for sure if it just doesn't work for MY19 vehicles, or if it's just user error with the initial setup.
FYI, I don't have a memory module so I don't expect the mirror to reset back to the original position. I just can't get it to automatically dip or reset. Just doesn't move unless I manually move it.
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Post by barkeepsd on Aug 15, 2019 17:06:02 GMT
I have. 2019 golf R. And I’ve been trying to get this to work. Is there no mirror memory module in the USA version of the golf r?? I can get the mirror to dip in reverse gear. But it won’t return to normal after I drive forward.
Has anyone have any luck getting this function to work properly??
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on Aug 16, 2019 23:23:35 GMT
I have. 2019 golf R. And I’ve been trying to get this to work. Is there no mirror memory module in the USA version of the golf r?? I can get the mirror to dip in reverse gear. But it won’t return to normal after I drive forward. Has anyone have any luck getting this function to work properly??barkeepsd: Hi
It's a simple matter of logic - your question isn't difficult to answer. Think about it and you come to the conclusion that the door control module on the passenger side of the car needs someway of remembering the starting coordinates to return-to after the mirror dip completes. That's precisely what the memory module does (if fitted to the car). Without the memory module, the passenger side door controller seems to "guess" the return co-ordinates and if often (always?) guesses incorrectly!!
My mk7 (RoW model) has the memory module fitted and mirror dip flawlessly returns to the proper position. I'm aware from reading posts on other forum that some USA mk7 owners have retrofitted folding mirrors to get the memory module. Google it to find-out more
Don
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Post by 2018gti on Aug 17, 2019 15:26:44 GMT
Can confirm as a 2018 GTI owner in the US. This memory module is simply a part of the folding mirror's assembly. There are more wires in the wiring harness of the passenger side folding mirror than there are in the USA non-folding mirror. The extra wires lead into the moving 'circle' behind the mirror glass, which is where the extra electronics must be to keep track of the mirror's position. Basically, you have to swap your non-folding mirrors with folding ones to make it work properly.
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