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Post by chrazz on Jan 3, 2022 13:48:07 GMT
Hi everyone , i am new to OBDeleven and i changed my car’s(vw passat b7) battery (varta 70ah agm) I am trying to code my new battery but i see the screen i have is different than yours. I have long coding and long adaptation options If i select long adaptation i can not search. It gives me option to insert a number from 0 to 255.   Was this resolved? Is it normal not to have the adaptation screen and why please? |
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on Jan 3, 2022 19:39:45 GMT
@chrass: So, as I have described earlier in this thread - ALL of the cars that are the focus of this part of the forum (i.e. Golf mk7) have a MQB platform build. This means that ALL vehicles are equipped with the newer style control modules that are based on UDS/ODX protocols. These modules do not use "channel number" as shown in the screen-shots on your post. Instead, UDS/ODX modules have an adaptation channel database that use names (not numbers).
Your Passat B7 is built on a PQ46 platform - I suggest that you read the FULL thread - in particular, page 2
Don
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Post by chrazz on Jan 8, 2022 15:54:30 GMT
I have same issue and coded the new battery migrating from flooded to agm using similar moll battery parms for agm given varta do not provide BEM code. Will this modify the charging parameters to cater for agm now. Similarly to cipichip I do not get adaptation but can only insert part and serial numbers. Car is 2011 a5 Thanks cipichip : Hi. That's correct, you don't need "all the other details about battery technology" on the older style non-UDS controllers that are installed in cars like your Passat.
As @ vwjap has said, there are just 3 x codes needed; the battery part number, the manufacturer and the serial number. ALL of this information can be found on the BEM Code sticker - see the 3 x boxes in the picture below.
Note: for non-UDS modules, the first part of the value that's entered into the 04 channel MUST be 11 x digits (this is the battery part number). In my picture, the red colored box has only 10 x digits - so you need to enter a space as the 11th digit. This means that there will be 2 x spaces between the battery part number and the manufacturer for the BEM code in my picture.
For the BEM Code sticker above, the correct entry should be:
3D0915105HspacespaceVAOspace590116G0O9
IMPORTANT: use CAPITAL letters and make sure that you distinguish correctly between the number zero and the letter "O" (the former has a stroke through the number) - failure to do this will cause problems!!!
Don
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on Jan 8, 2022 23:11:24 GMT
chrazz : hi. The number of pages in this thread indicates the importance of "battery coding" to forum members. However, despite the advantages of correctly coding the Gateway module to align with the currently installed battery - it's also important to recognize the limitations of the process! The first AGM battery was patented in the early 1970s and the initial early commercial units using this technology was made for the telecoms industry. Your car was built in 2011 and the battery charging parameters that are encoded in the hex19 module will necessarily be limited to the then known commercial manufacturing techniques when the car was built (which would have included AGM). Since 2011, battery manufacturing techniques have continued to evolve and optimal charging profiles have continued to change. The problem is that there is very little "official" information in the public domain regarding how the preset charging profiles in the Gateway modules a decade ago align with present-day battery manufacturing methods. In fact, there is very little "official" information in the public domain at all about battery coding!! From the words in your post - it sounds like you have done the best possible. As I have said earlier in this thread to another forum colleague - sleep easy and worry about other stuff (please) 
Don
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Post by chrazz on Jan 8, 2022 23:58:27 GMT
Thanks Don!
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Post by marcii on Jul 2, 2022 15:45:31 GMT
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on Jul 3, 2022 0:04:02 GMT
marcii : Hi. So, your battery picture suggests that it's not BEM compliant - meaning that you can't fully populate the values from the new battery onto the adaptation channels in your OBD11 screenshot You don't say if the values in the screenshot are the old values, or altered values. I note that the serial number is not the factory setting - so I assume that you have changed it. It's also not clear what manufacture type the new battery is - is it EFB? If so, then correct setting The battery manufacturer name isn't really important Don
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Post by marcii on Jul 3, 2022 13:40:06 GMT
Tnx Don for the reply
Yes the battery is EFB i changed the serial from 1111111112-1111111110
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Post by icin235 on Jul 10, 2022 17:49:01 GMT
Hi Gurus, I have a 2016 VW Golf R with no start/stop feature and no battery management control module. I have installed an antigravity lithium ion battery: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07B9JTM6X/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1It's only been in for a few days, but so far, so good. I have done no coding. From what I understand in this forum, if I don't have a battery management control module, I might not need to code for my new battery? Is that correct? Thanks in advance, |
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on Jul 10, 2022 22:55:45 GMT
icin235 : Hi. Intriguing battery!! Besides having an interest in OBD stuff, I also have a passing acquaintance with the wonderful science of physics. Now, based entirely on my amateur understanding of Einstein's theory of general relativity (in particular, the bit in his 1915 paper where he breaks the Newtonian notion that gravity is an absolute force and instead, he defines gravity as being the result of time-space curvature), I suspect that the claims of your battery manufacturer that their product is "anti-gravity" is NOT true !!! 
Of course, I could be wrong (maybe the "anti-gravity" battery is made from a stable isotope of Moscovium - look it up), but I really don't believe that I'm incorrect in my assertion!!
Anyhow - Marketing hubris aside - I very much doubt that the technology in your new battery was ever contemplated when the EMS in your MY16 Golf was designed. Without knowing the specifics of the "anti-gravity" battery, I suspect that you need to rely on the inbuilt BMS within the battery for correct operation of the new technology - rather than on the native facility in the car.
On this basis - I reckon that the best approach is to present a bog-standard lead-acid type of EMS to your battery - which is what you have done!!
Don
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Post by flyryguy on Aug 7, 2022 5:25:27 GMT
Hi everyone , i am new to OBDeleven and i changed my car’s(vw passat b7) battery (varta 70ah agm) I am trying to code my new battery but i see the screen i have is different than yours. I have long coding and long adaptation options If i select long adaptation i can not search. It gives me option to insert a number from 0 to 255. Was this resolved? Is it normal not to have the adaptation screen and why please? I had a similar issue with my screen not having the app shortcuts. I ended up going into long adaptation, channel 04, and changing the last letter of the battery - changing some of the numbers did not seem to stick when I hit submit, but changing the last letter did. I didn’t have some of the other options to select such as fleece, only the battery number. When I look into my history, as an adaptation it reflects a new value in channel 4 (one that is now different from my old battery sticker). Is there another way to validate the charging system identifies it as a new battery? (2012 Q5, if it matters.) |
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Post by deezell on Nov 6, 2022 13:46:07 GMT
I've just replaced original battery on a 2015 A6 C7 3l quattro. There are only 3 choices on Adaptations, no battery type. I note when checking online battery suppliers only AGM is suitable, no downgrade possible. Choices are Size in Ah, Manufacturer and Serial no. I replaced with same size, 92Ah, The manufacturer codes are all three letter abbreviations. My replacement is a Halford own brand which I believe is Yuasa. (serial no YG... , Yuasa Gel?). Only 7 manufacturer choices and 'unknown' are listed, my original was JCB (nothing to do with excavator manufacturer) which I believe is part of Johnson Control industries. JCI, owner of Varta. These are the choices, and after a long search, the key. ------------------------ 5DO = JFF/Boading TU3 = Exide MLA = Moll JCB = JCI/JCB VA0 (or VAO) = Varta UM5 = Akuma BA2 = Banner No Yuasa, so l left it at JCB, 92Ah, and entered the new battery serial no. Simple as that.  |
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Post by vwgtimk72015 on Nov 24, 2022 0:42:27 GMT
Everyone here is wondering what type their battery is and I'm here with an : "Lead-calcium Starter Battery"... where would that fall into? I've purchased it from VW directly. imgur.com/a/j30DBNGEDIT It's a wet battery. |
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Post by jfgte8296 on Dec 7, 2022 18:00:20 GMT
I have OBDeleven and paid for pro edition. These menus don't show up in my app. Any reason why?
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Post by vwjap on Dec 7, 2022 18:17:28 GMT
You don’t have a golf mk7 or a really early one,
Do you get drop down channel list?
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Post by sergi0dj on Aug 23, 2023 5:33:36 GMT
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on Aug 23, 2023 23:04:10 GMT
sergi0dj : OK - very little known about this battery - other than it is sold by EUROREPAR. It doesn't appear that this battery is BEM type
I very much doubt that VW even knew about this battery when they programmed the battery manufacturers in the mk7 module. Unless you can find-out more about the wholesale source of EUROREPAR batteries, I suggest that you pick any-one of those listed in the module (it won't much matter- I think)
Don
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Post by wolfie6977 on Dec 8, 2023 1:22:21 GMT
Ok major question 2014 audi q7tdi gonna change battery but my obdeleven screen is nothing like yours. Mine is white with value places 4 of them with many many lines and alot of numbers. I can screen shot it if u need but need to change battery quick 40 below weather here soon and need to install the 950cca bat. Instead of the 450cca one. Ty
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on Dec 8, 2023 21:27:26 GMT
wolfie6977 : hmm.... asking a Audi Q7 question on a VW Golf mk7 thread and expecting readers to understand the battery "obdeleven screen" on this very different car might be a tad ambitious!! !!
Definitely more information needed to answer this question!
Don
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Post by julier77 on Jan 7, 2024 16:33:13 GMT
Hi everyone , i am new to OBDeleven and i changed my car’s(vw passat b7) battery (varta 70ah agm) I am trying to code my new battery but i see the screen i have is different than yours. I have long coding and long adaptation options If i select long adaptation i can not search. It gives me option to insert a number from 0 to 255. did this every get fixed? Having SAME issue! |
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Post by oldq7 on Jan 8, 2024 1:38:30 GMT
did this every get fixed? Having SAME issue! I’m having this issue too. Can’t get past the channel selector, which goes nowhere. |
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Post by rautagd on Feb 15, 2024 18:43:59 GMT
I have 2 Skoda cars. One Rapid from 2016 and one Fabia from 2017, both with start-stop EFB battery.
I've changed the factory battery on the Rapid with a Varta Silver D52 60Ah AGM in a Skoda service (3 months ago) and they programmed it as AGM in the Skoda software.
I checked today with OBD eleven and it appears as VAO 60Ah Binary-AGM.
On the Fabia is stil the original one and is coded as JCB 59Ah EFB.
Hope it clears a little the doubts on this forum.
P.S.: I think that if you only buy the OBD eleven device, without a PRO subscription,you cannot see the Adaption menu. You only see the Long Coding and Long Adaption menus.
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on Feb 15, 2024 20:23:45 GMT
@tautaged: Hi.
Varta Silver D52 60Ah AGM is NOT a Binary-AGM battery!! Binary AGM batteries for cars are exceedingly rare and they are very, very expensive. The correct setting for the manufacture technology in AGM batteries is FLEECE
Don
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Post by yacineautofixdz on Feb 17, 2024 21:40:10 GMT
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Post by s3 on Apr 9, 2024 15:16:12 GMT
Hey
I just change my battery in my S3 2018 Saloon. Before there was original EFB battery and the coding for the battery type was EFB.
My new battery is AGM and what i have been searching online, the coding for AGM should be fleece, right?
But when i done that, my battery is no longer charging when the car was on. Obdeleven shows then only 12.5V.
But when i change the battery type back to the original EFB, car starts charging normal 14V ish when car is on.
So do i have to stick the coding to the EFB?
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on Apr 9, 2024 22:06:40 GMT
s3 : Hi. hmm............. that's really strange!!!
As you will agree - you are not the first to use the correct setting "Fleece" when using a AGM battery! However, AFAIK -yours is the first to have reported the odd dynamic in your post.
Is this incredulous observation repeatable? Do you have access to a multi-meter? If so, maybe measure the battery rail voltage at the battery terminals with the Fleece setting
Don
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Post by s3 on Apr 10, 2024 6:05:54 GMT
Hey dv!
I change the coding back to fleece and add some numbers for the serial to match the factory 10 digits and now everything seems to be fine, very strange.
Only explanation i can figure out is that i charged the new battery other evening, so maybe the battery was so full it wont need the 14V+ to charge it at that time.
Now it hits 14.6V ish couple times when traveling work. Thanks your help again!
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Post by briantully on Aug 15, 2024 17:35:31 GMT
Hi, i have a little problem to code my new battery installed today in my golf 7 but on the battery i see only one code, anyone help me? Thanks a lot ![]()  First - do you have a battery monitor module - see my previous post? If not - then no changes are needed
If so- It's not important to enter an accurate serial number - it is simply necessary to change the existing setting (which likely will be a string of 1's) Of course you should try to enter the AH rating and battery type Don Don - have I told you lately that I love you?  You deserve a medal for all your help and knowledge sharing here on this forum. I appreciate you!!! |
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on Aug 15, 2024 21:45:40 GMT
^^^ hmm....... maybe the term "love" is a tad strong in the context of forum information - but thanks for the generous words!
Don
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Post by rufus1763 on Aug 27, 2024 21:29:42 GMT
I can get to Gateway, Long Adaptation, Battery.
I can see the various fields.
I cannot access any of the fields, except the overall number which is defaulted to the original battery code and if I try to change that 26 digit code I can type it in but it does not 'stay' and overwrite the OEM code.
I need to change the amp hrs and battery chemistry. I am aware that the manufacturer 3 digit code and the 10 digit serial number don't really matter (except the serial number must change at least one digit).
I have the pro version which I just bought and initialized the plan credits. My statistics show 2 full scans completed and 4 programming completed....but actually zero has changed on the battery fields because the 4 attempts were only on the full 26 digit alphanumeric field and I can't access anything except that field which does not change when I type in a new code.....it simply keeps coming up as the original.
This suggests I am completely locked out of updating battery information.
Any ideas?
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You deserve a medal for all your help and knowledge sharing here on this forum. I appreciate you!!!