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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2018 15:19:06 GMT
When is there going to be a stop start ap??? This was one of the reasons I bought this device. Thanks
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Post by vwjap on Mar 18, 2018 15:48:03 GMT
Just code it, it’s one adaption, changing 7 to 12
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2018 21:53:22 GMT
Thanks for reply. I don't know how. I've only ever used the apps
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Post by vwjap on Mar 18, 2018 22:28:01 GMT
Ok have you got pro?
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Post by grubsflow on Mar 19, 2018 16:49:21 GMT
What is a stop start app? As in remote start? Or stop engine when at a light, and start it when you have to go again?
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Post by vwjap on Mar 19, 2018 18:35:37 GMT
No, from the factory the car will stop the engine automatically at a standstill, there’s a button in the Center console to stop it, but some people don’t like it so the code it out by telling it one of the parameters is not met for switching the engine off (voltage or temperature)
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2018 8:43:19 GMT
Yep i have a pro
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Post by vwjap on Mar 20, 2018 9:17:20 GMT
Go into coding and find can gateway (19), then go to adaptions, then find start stop voltage limit, go into that and it should read 7volts, change it to 12v then press and hold the green tick
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2018 16:58:05 GMT
How do I go in to coding?? Thanks
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2018 17:36:28 GMT
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Post by mikeyd on Mar 22, 2018 7:35:45 GMT
Thanks guys all done now
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Post by vwjap on Mar 22, 2018 8:32:20 GMT
👍🏻
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Post by mirceabalea on Jul 10, 2018 19:00:47 GMT
For me it didn't work with the ambient temperature. I got an 31 error, but I managed to change the voltage to 12
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Post by thomas82 on Jul 17, 2018 21:55:39 GMT
I have this in my menu, on a mk7.5 GTI PP Did not change anything, do not what will happen.
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on Jul 18, 2018 4:24:26 GMT
^^^ my suspicion is that you won't be able to change anything in this adaptation channel - my understanding is that changes are only possible if the vehicle has traveled lows kms (<50kms - from memory, I think)
But I'm more than happy to be proven wrong - if you try to alter the setting.
Don
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Post by thomas82 on Jul 18, 2018 7:40:45 GMT
^^^ my suspicion is that you won't be able to change anything in this adaptation channel - my understanding is that changes are only possible if the vehicle has traveled lows kms (<50kms - from memory, I think) But I'm more than happy to be proven wrong - if you try to alter the setting. Don I'll give it a go after work today. Don't know which to choose, would be great if it was possible to have it start with the start/stop-function in off.
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Post by thomas82 on Jul 18, 2018 13:07:20 GMT
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on Jul 18, 2018 13:15:04 GMT
^^ ^ so - are you saying that it worked? did you disable start-stop by changing the setting? what is the km reading on your car?
Don
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Post by ycodryn on Jul 18, 2018 13:45:04 GMT
Check again that coding after few car restarts (engine off, contact off > contact on, engine on) because I remember reading somewhere that that coding is reverting back to default. But if is working I wonder if is better/worse than voltage method. Btw how about the button?
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on Jul 18, 2018 14:06:18 GMT
^^^ well, the problem with the voltage method is the "tell", when the car is stopped and SS would have engaged the tell-tale "A" symbol with a slash appears in the top RHS of the MFD. Does this happen with this tweak?
So- ignition-on, seatbelt-on, aircon-off, car not-moving - is engine on?
Not sure about the button - try it, does LED in the button still light-up when pressed? Don
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Post by thomas82 on Jul 18, 2018 14:08:20 GMT
Check again that coding after few car restarts (engine off, contact off > contact on, engine on) because I remember reading somewhere that that coding is reverting back to default. But if is working I wonder if is better/worse than voltage method. Btw how about the button? You're absolutely wright. After a few restarts it went back to default. The button stayed dark whilst it worked. Would be great if it would be possible that it started in 'off', a friend of mine got that done on his AUDI RS6 at the dealership.
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Post by thomas82 on Jul 18, 2018 14:09:36 GMT
^^ ^ so - are you saying that it worked? did you disable start-stop by changing the setting? what is the km reading on your car? Don It worked for a while, but after turning the car on-off a couple if times, it went back to default. The car has 16904km on it.
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on Jul 18, 2018 14:14:23 GMT
Check again that coding after few car restarts (engine off, contact off > contact on, engine on) because I remember reading somewhere that that coding is reverting back to default. But if is working I wonder if is better/worse than voltage method. Btw how about the button? You're absolutely wright. After a few restarts it went back to default. The button stayed dark whilst it worked. Would be great if it would be possible that it started in 'off', a friend of mine got that done on his AUDI RS6 at the dealership. thomas: here's how to reset the SS facility so that it defaults to off - simply build and install my Auto SS kill-switch: All of the tweaks that have been published for the mk7 thus far work by fooling the control module into thinking that either the temperature is too high, or that the voltage is too low. These tweaks simply disable SS - making the SS switch in the console inoperative. These tweaks also result in the tell-tale "A" symbol with a slash appearing in the top RHS of the MFD whenever the vehicle comes to a stop. In sheer frustration, my solution was to design, build and install a simple timer circuit that is placed across the SS switch contacts. It works automatically by simulating the driver pressing the SS switch on the centre console 5 seconds after the ignition is turned-on. I've had it operating for about 12 months and it has never missed once. Now after I switch-on the ignition, 5 seconds later the SS disable light automatically comes-on and I can re-engage the SS facility at any time in the journey. Not that I have ever done this - IMO, SS is the most dangerous facility in the car! I have designed 3 different versions of the Auto SS kill switch which you can find in the link below. www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/f197/golf-mk7-auto-start-stop-disable-switch-who-wants-help-108932.html#post1154903Just as an example, here's the ciruit for a version of my switch which is based on a device called a "Digispark" - which is an Arduino style chip. But my first design (which is based on an "open-loop" circuit) is far simpler to build.
Don
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Post by newty on Jul 18, 2018 14:17:08 GMT
Just my 2 cents here: Various control modules incorporate S/S management, which are to control their communiciation behavior regarding start requests and stop prohibition. The most practical example is the Air conditioning: Requesting start when the temperature raises or falls above/below comfort level Prohibiting stop when the temperature has not reached comfort level
At best this will stop all communication regarding start stop from the module, but will not disable S/S entirely. You should have a look at 01 Motor ECU. Nobody was lucky with this so far - thats why S/S prevention right now is to tamper the S/S condition of one control module to always stay at "prohibit stop"
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Post by ycodryn on Jul 18, 2018 14:52:03 GMT
Don SS switch is best option but I have to dismantle my console to have acees at that button right? And my car is young only 2000km )
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on Jul 19, 2018 3:32:26 GMT
Don SS switch is best option but I have to dismantle my console to have acees at that button right? And my car is young only 2000km ) Yes, that's correct, but it really isn't difficult - see video below: removing the center console coverThere are a series of videos for each step in the process that were produced by my fellow VWWatercooled colleague Mattaus (who also co-developed my SS Auto Kill switch) HERE
Notice that there are no accents in any of the videos!!
Very easy installation process- just takes a little confidence and basic soldering skills (Hell, it I can do it-anyone can do it!) DOn
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Post by ycodryn on Jul 19, 2018 8:43:17 GMT
Damn looks so easy there. Sadly on my car is not there. I have a kodiaq btw. These photos are not from my car, I’m to lazy to go out and take a picture but the button is in same location.
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Post by newty on Jul 19, 2018 12:07:11 GMT
There is somebody with a Leon who claims to have disabled Start/Stop by a basic setting in the Engine Control Module.
No testing from my side - nor any more info or even gurantees...
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Post by milamajka on Jul 19, 2018 12:27:55 GMT
Go into coding and find can gateway (19), then go to adaptions, then find start stop voltage limit, go into that and it should read 7volts, change it to 12v then press and hold the green tick I tried to do that on my passat b7 and i ser long adaptation instead of just " adaptation". Anyway when i open it i dont see and canty change voltage limit. It's a pain in the a**. Disabling start stop was one of the biggest reasons i bought this device. Can someone explain to me like im 5 years old how to disable start stop on my car ?
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on Jul 21, 2018 0:27:40 GMT
Go into coding and find can gateway (19), then go to adaptions, then find start stop voltage limit, go into that and it should read 7volts, change it to 12v then press and hold the green tick I tried to do that on my passat b7 and i ser long adaptation instead of just " adaptation". Anyway when i open it i dont see and canty change voltage limit. It's a pain in the a**. Disabling start stop was one of the biggest reasons i bought this device. Can someone explain to me like im 5 years old how to disable start stop on my car ? hmm....... if your car is "5 years old", I suspect that you need to use the "temperature method" (not the "voltage method") explained in the instructions HEREI originally wrote these instructions for VCDS, but they are easily translated to OBD11 speak Don
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