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Post by rutarvip on Apr 29, 2024 8:11:43 GMT
I have IQ lights but as far as i know they are just front ones because in rear ones just says GOLF.
When i start the car the front lights move up and down but not left and right, what this means? are they IQ matrix?
I also don't get any option for auto high beam purchase in car store.
Golf was imported form Germany.
I would appreciate any help and info
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Post by melkool on Apr 29, 2024 10:44:39 GMT
No. Maybe you have the middle LED lights called LED Plus with bad weather lights.
Golf 8 has 3 type of headlights:
basic LED (no cornering, no projector, just a classic mirror ) and bulb turn signals. Not sure if they have self level adjustment.
Led Plus (projector on main beam, cornering lights, bad weather lights) and everything LED (no bulb). Go up/down on every start and have auto leveling.
Led Matrix (projectors on both main an high beam).
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Post by rutarvip on Apr 29, 2024 12:05:41 GMT
No. Maybe you have the middle LED lights called LED Plus with bad weather lights. Golf 8 has 3 type of headlights: basic LED (no cornering, no projector, just a classic mirror ) and bulb turn signals. Not sure if they have self level adjustment. Led Plus (projector on main beam, cornering lights, bad weather lights) and everything LED (no bulb). Go up/down on every start and have auto leveling. Led Matrix (projectors on both main an high beam). Thank you. Finally perfect explanation That is it - Led Plus (projector on main beam, cornering lights, bad weather lights) and everything LED (no bulb). Go up/down on every start and have auto leveling. Now i just need to figure it out how to activate auto high beam with obd11 PRO, because i can not purchase it from the store. ( if it's even possible hence the lights are not IQ matrix, just IQ) |
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Post by melkool on Apr 29, 2024 12:18:40 GMT
You cannot! It's a FOD/FeC function and the only way is to buy it from Store. It requires some special tokens from factory and it cannot be done with OBD11. Only ODIS with factory connected service. But if you push the turn signal stick forward once with lights on "AUTO" does the A sign appears in the dash ? Maybe you Light Assist package by default.
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Post by rutarvip on Apr 29, 2024 12:27:32 GMT
You cannot! It's a FOD/FeC function and the only way is to buy it from Store. It requires some special tokens from factory and it cannot be done with OBD11. Only ODIS with factory connected service. But if you push the turn signal stick forward once with lights on "AUTO" does the A sign appears in the dash ? Maybe you Light Assist package by default.
Thanks again, no i don't have the that signal i tryed already, also checked everything in menus and settings, i would purchase it if it would be available but it's not  I will give it a try at local VW dealer-servis shoop if they can help. Thank you. |
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Post by melkool on Apr 29, 2024 13:04:31 GMT
To be honest I've paid 1400 RON (about 260 euro) and it doesn't worth the money. It's so stupid as it cannot detect trucks on the highway and it dazzle the drivers. It cannot detect cars if they not have bright tail lights. Also sometimes in straight lines even if the car is in front of you and the camera clearly sees it, it will not switch to low beams and the other driver becomes so annoyed and he turns on the hazard lights. They are powerful LEDs you know ... Without matrix it's nice to have but so dumb that I have to manually operate the low/high beam stick every-time. Sometime I just disable it. Keep you money for something else |
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Post by paneuropean on Apr 29, 2024 16:14:46 GMT
Golf 8 has 3 type of headlights... I think there is a 4th type of headlight that is only provided on Golf MK 8 vehicles that are shipped to North America (Canada & USA). This headlight has all the physical characteristics of the LED Matrix (meaning, projectors on both main and high beam) but it does not have as many LED elements behind the lenses as the European specification LED Matrix. This is because the "bending around corners" function is not supported in North America - for that reason, it makes no sense for VW to install the additional LEDs needed to support this capability. These vehicles do not have the 'Matrix' functions (automatic movement up and down proportionate to vehicle speed, automatic activation of high beam function on dark roads above a certain speed, masking of oncoming and preceding vehicles by turning off some of the LEDs when high beams are active) enabled. But, on these North American vehicles, those 'Matrix' functions can be enabled via coding. It is a very complex process and there is only one person that I know of who offers this service, that is Anthony at ACM Technik. Michael |
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Post by brkica on Apr 29, 2024 19:22:36 GMT
Check the outer headlight projector for the inscription "IQ light". If there is no inscription under the glass on the side of the projector lens, then no. Also, matrix headlights are PN 5H1941059 and 5H1941060.
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Post by rutarvip on Apr 30, 2024 6:24:29 GMT
Thanks for all info. Yes There is inscription "IQ light" but they work as said by melkool (Led Plus (projector on main beam, cornering lights, bad weather lights) and everything LED (no bulb). Go up/down on every start and have auto leveling.) I will check for part number later. Then it's sorted, i wont be having auto high beam as many people by now said it does not work well anyway. |
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Post by melkool on Apr 30, 2024 6:58:13 GMT
Indeed! Auto High Beam assist works great on matrix but on regular headlight , at least for Golf is badpy. Just to confirm, yesterday I was driving through a forest and at 5PM (cloudy) the car decided to turn on the headlights and with a white car in front of me turned the high beam on. Driver dazzled, turn on the hazard lights and I turned off the "auto high beam assist". Doesn't worth the money but I cannot ask for a refund Had different expectations from the system. Couldn't afford matrix (as it's a company car and I had limited budget). |
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Post by rutarvip on Apr 30, 2024 7:09:25 GMT
Indeed! Auto High Beam assist works great on matrix but on regular headlight , at least for Golf is badpy. Just to confirm, yesterday I was driving through a forest and at 5PM (cloudy) the car decided to turn on the headlights and with a white car in front of me turned the high beam on. Driver dazzled, turn on the hazard lights and I turned off the "auto high beam assist". Doesn't worth the money but I cannot ask for a refund Had different expectations from the system. Couldn't afford matrix (as it's a company car and I had limited budget). Surely if it's company car it's not worth it only maybe if you are a lot on the road. I had Ford Focus MK4 before GOLF with adaptive led lights and they worked very well, it even cut the car out in front of me with lights and lower the beam when car passed me. But there were other problems with the Focus  |
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Post by brkica on May 1, 2024 20:42:18 GMT
Check if you have 4B unit in the gateway list and if it has errors. Also check the menu entry "headlights" if DLA is enabled. To use matrix functionality, the lights must be on Auto and the high beam must be turned to auto as well - doesn't turn on automatically (high beam symbol with letter A inside). From what you are saying, you might have matrix lights where the functionality is disabled because they lost the basic settings or they are off. People ussually lose the headlight adjustment due to coding changes in 4B. Returning the matrix functionality in this case necessitates a visit to the official dealer where the beams are adjusted using a regloscope (120 eur service).
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Post by melkool on May 2, 2024 10:36:48 GMT
He confirmed he has the "LED Plus" headlights with projector on main beam and reflector only on high beam. Also he doesn't have "Light Assist" so no High Beam with A (as I have attached from my car). Same as mine! Awesome headlights but not matrix.
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Post by rutarvip on May 6, 2024 4:53:47 GMT
Yes that is right. But i don't need matrix i would just like to have auto high beam i don't need anything else. But as said before it is better to not have it so it will stay the way it is stock. |
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Post by rutarvip on May 6, 2024 4:56:52 GMT
Check if you have 4B unit in the gateway list and if it has errors. Also check the menu entry "headlights" if DLA is enabled. To use matrix functionality, the lights must be on Auto and the high beam must be turned to auto as well - doesn't turn on automatically (high beam symbol with letter A inside). From what you are saying, you might have matrix lights where the functionality is disabled because they lost the basic settings or they are off. People ussually lose the headlight adjustment due to coding changes in 4B. Returning the matrix functionality in this case necessitates a visit to the official dealer where the beams are adjusted using a regloscope (120 eur service). Nope i checked the High beam does not have a projector only the main beam, so the lights are caled LED Plus, but still have the name IQ light on the light itself (probably because of the main beam) No 4B unit. |
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Post by rutarvip on May 15, 2024 7:41:27 GMT
Hello i have a question again.
I started to check what my IQ lights have in A5 module and i have this:
FLA Headinglight type: Led
AFS coding light assist: High beam assist
FLA additional High Beam: No additional high beam
High Bem Assist behavior: Variante 7
As i assume i have High beam assist but it's not working for me. Also No White A symbol, i can just put high beam on my self.
Anyone know if i need to change some settings somewhere ?
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Post by melkool on May 15, 2024 13:13:09 GMT
High Beam Assist (along with Traffic Sign Recognition, Navigation, Ambient Lights, Alexa, etc) are functions controlled by FeC/Swap and cannot be coded using OBD11. Buy the front assist Light Assist (High-Beam Assistant) from the shop (as I did) or deal with the fact that it cannot be coded with OBD11.
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Post by rutarvip on May 16, 2024 3:52:54 GMT
As i mentioned before i can not buy it from the store because i don't have option in store, just Alexa and WE connect +.
The other thing is that i didn't change any adpatations and long coding and when i checked for Lights it was:FLA Headinglight type: LedAFS coding light assist: High beam assist
So i thought that maybe it has activated High beam assist FLA and something is missing.
No offense here but isn't forum for this kind of stuff? so we can ask if each other for help.
And yes i wont bother anyone with High beam assist anymore.
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Post by melkool on May 16, 2024 7:01:56 GMT
Hi, Not sure why you are so upset. Forum is for "this kind of stuff" but thanx to VW Engineers - that we have to thank for - OBD11 is not able to do such codings. ODIS/Geko is another story but first of all you need to check if the hardware supports that feature. In this case we are talking about the a5 camera. I'm by no mean an expert but based on the forum there are two types of cameras with different partnumers. Mine for example, 5WA980653 was ready for High-Beam assist - i've purchased it from the shop and it knows about traffic signs. BUT due to the locked gateway - same as your issue - i am unable to activate this feature and there's nothing that I can do about it. More than this, my digigtal cockpit (or whatever it is called) 5H0920340B doesn't have the right firmware to display signs. More than that, my colleague's MK8 with dash 5H0920340 DOES NOT display the ODO !! And ... guess what! There's nothing he can do about that. Replacing these parts cost a lot of money and effort for nothing and also voids the car's warranty. Sorry for my typos. Driving with TravelAssist |
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Post by rutarvip on May 16, 2024 7:48:29 GMT
Thanks, My car have Dynamic Road Sign Display, lane assist and Adaptive Cruise Control ACC stop & go incl. speed limiter, rain sensor and bunch of other stuff, so maybe the camera is the right one.( i know adaptive cruise control is not that camera). I have the same part number for camera as you:5WA980653 " More than that, my colleague's MK8 with dash 5H0920340 DOES NOT display the ODO" If you mean the Number of driven kilometers: I also don't have that. But when i turn my car off it displays it example mine: 67.107km. And don't worry about typos, i probably have more of them as English is not my first language. |
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Post by martijnvo on Jun 29, 2024 11:55:56 GMT
High Beam Assist (along with Traffic Sign Recognition, Navigation, Ambient Lights, Alexa, etc) are functions controlled by FeC/Swap and cannot be coded using OBD11. Buy the front assist Light Assist (High-Beam Assistant) from the shop (as I did) or deal with the fact that it cannot be coded with OBD11. I have the high beam assistance coded with ODB-11-pro VAG without the FEC code. So its possible but you have to know what to code in which module. I got an idea but do not know if it works: i got an email from my VW dealer that it is possible to try some of the additions one month for free. When i make admaps from VCDS from the hole car before the free purchace and afterwards i can compare the settings of each module. Then i can try to code the setting from the afterwards scan in the before scan situation. Will that work? |
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Post by platterfoot on Jun 29, 2024 23:48:55 GMT
Golf 8 has 3 type of headlights... I think there is a 4th type of headlight that is only provided on Golf MK 8 vehicles that are shipped to North America (Canada & USA). This headlight has all the physical characteristics of the LED Matrix (meaning, projectors on both main and high beam) but it does not have as many LED elements behind the lenses as the European specification LED Matrix. This is because the "bending around corners" function is not supported in North America - for that reason, it makes no sense for VW to install the additional LEDs needed to support this capability. These vehicles do not have the 'Matrix' functions (automatic movement up and down proportionate to vehicle speed, automatic activation of high beam function on dark roads above a certain speed, masking of oncoming and preceding vehicles by turning off some of the LEDs when high beams are active) enabled. But, on these North American vehicles, those 'Matrix' functions can be enabled via coding. It is a very complex process and there is only one person that I know of who offers this service, that is Anthony at ACM Technik. Michael You would be correct. VW designed a variant specifically for the NAR market. Dumb that they didn’t give them a red stripe for the GTI. |
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Post by paneuropean on Jun 30, 2024 10:21:55 GMT
" More than that, my colleague's MK8 with dash 5H0920340 DOES NOT display the ODO" If you mean the Number of driven kilometers: I also don't have that. But when i turn my car off it displays it example mine: 67.107km. The odometer display (total distance driven during the lifetime of the car) disappears when cruise control is turned on because the cruise control settings display occupies the space previously used by the odometer. If you turn off the cruise control using the button on the steering wheel, the odometer display will reappear and remain visible as long as the cruise control is turned off. Michael |
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Post by melkool on Jun 30, 2024 12:21:11 GMT
Negative! It's not displaying odo no mather what. It only shows it fir about 5 seconds when you turn off the car. That's a hardware limitation for that panel version - we were told by Volkswagen.
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Post by melkool on Jun 30, 2024 16:08:46 GMT
No! It will not work! First of all these functions are controlled by Fec/Swap. So even if you have the correct coding, a special 'token' from VW Servers is required in order to activate them. So .. that's it  |
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