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Post by vrejas66 on Dec 23, 2023 17:38:48 GMT
Hi guys.
I have put electric folding mirrors on my 2015 Golf Mk7, I have coded modules 42, 52, 09 with OBDeleven and I have activated the mirror folding function in the Infotainment. The right mirror folds but the left does not.
I've searched the forum here and tried everything I've read but I can't find a solution. Any possible solution?
I attach photos of OBDeleven and the control unit (it is the original VW) that I have in the left door.
I apologize if there are any strange expressions, I wrote with Google translator.
Regards.
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on Dec 23, 2023 20:25:13 GMT
I can't access your pictures - says "bad gateway" when I try.
Also, post-up the long-code string for the left-side door module
Don
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Post by vrejas66 on Dec 24, 2023 14:22:47 GMT
Hi. Well I don't understand why you can't see the photos. I try again.
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Post by vrejas66 on Dec 24, 2023 14:35:09 GMT
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on Dec 24, 2023 21:30:00 GMT
vrejas : Arrhhh....... that's better - I can access your pictures now!!
hmm.........OK, 5Q4959393B modules are ubiquitous - they are installed in all sorts of MQB platform cars (both 4 x door and 2 x door) like Audi A3, Mk7, Seat Leon, Skoda Octavia - and many more!!
This means that this module (with the same Part/Software number) needs to be compatible with many different band/models and with various build options. The way that VAG achieves this is with a piece of software called a "dataset" - which is a part of the firmware within the module. A dataset is different to long-code, or adaptation channels
The coding in your screenshots looks OK. My hunch is that the problem here is the dataset (sometimes called "paramatization") in the driver-side door module. I suspect that the left car-side door-module does NOT have a dataset that supports folding mirrors - whereas the factory dataset on the passenger side door-module does have the correct dataset.
Unfortunately, OBD11 won't help with loading a new dataset into the module - for this task, you need the dealer tool ODIS, or VCP (and of course, you then need to get the correct dataset)
Don
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Post by vrejas66 on Dec 25, 2023 0:23:00 GMT
I have tested the mirror at home with a current transformer and it works fine.
I have investigated and the motor has two connections, a purple cable (9) and a blue cable (10).
The door module does not have a connection for 9 and 10 and for that reason the motor does not receive electrical current. Do you know where I could supply power to 9 and 10?
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on Dec 25, 2023 3:25:47 GMT
I have tested the mirror at home with a current transformer and it works fine. It is simply NOT electrically possible to drive a DC motor (like the fold IN/OUT motor in the side mirror) with a "current transformer" - which is an Alternating Current (AC) device!! A current transformer (CT) is a type of transformer that is used to reduce or multiply an alternating current (AC). It produces a current in its secondary winding which is proportional to the current in its primary winding. Current transformers are type of instrument transformer. Instrument transformers scale the large values of voltage or current to small, standardized values that are easy to handle for measuring instruments and protective relays. The instrument transformers isolate measurement or protection circuits from the high voltage of the primary system. A current transformer provides a secondary current that is accurately proportional to the current flowing in its primary. Maybe you used a variable DC voltage device, or perhaps a battery charger - but I'm guessing (I don't know). In any event, the issue here is NOT a fault in the DC fold-IN/OUT motor I have investigated and the motor has two connections, a purple cable (9) and a blue cable (10). The door module does not have a connection for 9 and 10 and for that reason the motor does not receive electrical curr OK - new information. The missing pins on the 16 x pin module socket confirms the suggestion in my previous reply:
The wrong dataset for folding mirrors and the missing pins to connect the fold-IN/OUT motor means that this module is NOT compatible with folding mirrors - alas!! |
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Post by vrejas66 on Dec 25, 2023 10:08:47 GMT
Hi Australia.
The first thing I should have done was check the connections and not bother you. Now I have to look for a module with connections 9 and 10, and I hope it works.
I appreciate your help and thank you very much for your time.
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Post by vrejas66 on Jan 13, 2024 14:03:13 GMT
Hi guys.
I already have the driver's side mirror working correctly.
I put in a Seat Leon module but they were the other way around, let me explain... the left one closed and the right one opened, and so on.
The solution was to change the position cables on the driver's side mirror, but there is a small problem and that is that from time to time the driver's window sometimes loses its up/down memory and I have to memorize it again leaving pressed for about 5 seconds, I don't know if it is a matter of coding.
What do your think?
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on Jan 13, 2024 21:26:00 GMT
vrejas66 : Hmm....... try re-setting the driver "fast-glass"
Press the UP/DOWN switch in one direction until the window travels to the end-stop AND keep holding the switch in that position for at least 5 seconds. Then press the switch in the opposite position and repeat. Do this a couple of times, or until the mechanism is calibrated
Don
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Post by vrejas66 on Jan 14, 2024 9:49:30 GMT
Good morning, dv52.
I think I didn't explain myself well because I use Google Translate (I don't speak English).
That's exactly what I do but when the car is closed (parked) for a few hours it loses the memory of the quick release.
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on Jan 14, 2024 20:44:05 GMT
I'm really not sure what you mean by "change the position cables on the driver's side mirror" - nor do I understand how "mirror" cables affect the driver window.
Don
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Post by vrejas66 on Jan 15, 2024 10:11:58 GMT
Good morning, dv52. Changing the cables (purple where the blue is, and blue where the purple is) changes the direction of rotation of the motor, so I solved it. What I don't know how to solve is because the window loses the memory to open or close quickly. |
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on Jan 15, 2024 22:52:57 GMT
hmm........ it's not clear - but I think your picture shows the purple and blue wires on the connection for the power folding mirror (called V121 in the wiring diagram)
I'm guessing - but I suspect that you are referring to the mirror dip on reverse function (rather than the power window up/down function)
If I'm correct, then the mirror dip on reverse function ONLY works correctly if the mirror has a memory module that stores the start position of the mirror. The mirror uses the value stored in the memory module when returning the folding mirror position after mirror-dip finishes.
On this car, mirror-dip on reverse ONLY works on the passenger-side mirror - so the passenger side mirror has the required memory module. I suspect that you have coded the driver-side mirror for mirror-dip on reverse. However, OEM driver-side folding mirrors do NOT have a menory module. This is the reason for your problem
Don
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Post by vrejas66 on Jan 16, 2024 7:11:20 GMT
Good morning, dv52. I think I'm not explaining myself well because they are two different cases.
1MIRROR: I'm not talking about the passenger side mirror in reverse mode because it always worked well. I'm talking about the driver's side mirror and when I closed the car the mirror opened, when I opened the car the mirror folded, the solution was to cut the cables and join them crossed (purple + blue / blue + purple) to change the direction of the engine.  Now both mirrors work well, issue solved. 2 WINDOW: The driver's window loses the memory of going up and down in fast mode. Current unsolved problem.
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Post by falcon on Jan 16, 2024 16:30:47 GMT
I'm reading along here and have further ideas:
The retrofitted module is for Seat, not VW. Seat doesn't always have the same functions as VW and the equipment packages differ, and therefore the installed hardware and software. If necessary, check whether the installed module is not defective and is also set up for the desired function.
Depending on the country, right- or left-hand drive could also vary.
They are just ideas; I haven't experimented with it myself yet.
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on Jan 16, 2024 22:50:34 GMT
WINDOW: The driver's window loses the memory of going up and down in fast mode. Current unsolved problem.
Regards. hmm........so we are talking about the "window" - not the folding mirrors? What do you mean by "fast mode" |
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Post by vrejas66 on Jan 17, 2024 15:51:40 GMT
I'm reading along here and have further ideas: The retrofitted module is for Seat, not VW. Seat doesn't always have the same functions as VW and the equipment packages differ, and therefore the installed hardware and software. If necessary, check whether the installed module is not defective and is also set up for the desired function. Depending on the country, right- or left-hand drive could also vary. They are just ideas; I haven't experimented with it myself yet. Hi halcón. By cutting cables and crossing it, the direction (phase is changed) of the motor was changed and now it works correctly. Regards. "" ¿Hablas castellano? "" |
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Post by vrejas66 on Jan 17, 2024 15:52:22 GMT
WINDOW: The driver's window loses the memory of going up and down in fast mode. Current unsolved problem.
Regards. hmm........so we are talking about the "window" - not the folding mirrors? What do you mean by "fast mode" Hi dv52. Yes, I'm talking about the window. It is the quick closure if you keep the button pressed. Reviewing previous copies (00 11...) I have found that in Byte 01 that bit 00 is unselected (00 10....). Instead, I have done it and will observe the operation of the window for a few days and will give you news. Regards. |
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Post by vrejas66 on Jan 23, 2024 7:10:33 GMT
Hi guys.
Several days have passed with the bite change and it has been resolved, everything works well.
Thanks for your help. 👌
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Post by vrejas66 on Feb 28, 2024 15:54:14 GMT
Hello guys. When I close the car the rearview mirrors close instantly, but when I open the car they take a little more than 2 seconds to open. The question: Is it normal that they take so long to open?
Is it normal for it to take 2 seconds? Regards.
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