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Post by lth0ms0n on Aug 24, 2023 17:37:37 GMT
My MIB2, over the last couple of weeks, has developed some really odd behaviour. It's a MIB2 Discover Media, made by Delphi. It was fitted to the car in May 2021 with an 8" Discover Pro Display and has worked perfectly, ever since. The first issue it gave me was about 3-4 weeks ago, when the LED on the display itself failed to light when the unit was powered on. This resolved itself while I was driving and has not happened again. In the weeks that followed, it has started doing some even stranger things.. The behaviour starts with the message to tell me that Park Pilot is not available - then it prompts me about removing my phone from the car. After this, the MIB turns off. Although the unit turns on again immediately (by pressing the power button) when it comes on again, the following things do not work: - Steering wheel controls (for media - the controls for the dashboard display itself continue to function as normal)
- The compass for the Sat Nav disappears from the dashboard display
- The Park Pilot does not appear on the display when the car is placed in reverse (nor does the button for enabling this manually, by the gear shifter, work)
- The driving mode selector button does not work.
Owed to how erratic the behaviour is and the fact that the only thing which has changed since this started is the OS on my iPhone (I'm running the iOS 17 beta on an iPhone 14 Pro) and I'm always using CarPlay, I initially put this down to a bug in the phone which was causing the car to behave oddly. However, I ran a couple of scans on it - first on Monday and then this evening, after I got home from work - and not only is the car littered with faults across the 5F, Gateway, Dashboard and Central Electrics, when I ran the scan tonight the 5F failed to show at all.
From tonight's scan, I can see that the Dashboard is reporting a U111000 (Function restriction due to communication interruption) and, from the scan I did on Monday (where the 5F unit was showing) there are 26 faults and one of them is U112100 (Database missing message).
I've not been able to find anything that points to what this might be - other than some kind of hardware fault between either (possibly) the MIB, the CAN Gateway or perhaps the Dashboard? Nothing has changed within the car in years - not since I did the original MIB swap to the MIB2 that's in it now - so a change to the car itself cannot be responsible for this.
Does anyone have any ideas, before I splash out on a new MIB and get someone to activate it within the car for me?
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on Aug 24, 2023 21:08:34 GMT
Please post-up a copy of the SCANs - so we can see the actual fault details. If you aren't aware of how to digitize the SCAN data - do this: - start OBD11 software - no need to connect to the car
- On the Home screen, select Garage tab (bottom left)
- Select the car if you have multiple vehicles registered to your account
- scroll-down the options and select History
- Follow the screenshots below:
Don
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Post by lth0ms0n on Aug 25, 2023 11:55:31 GMT
Here are the scans which have been done on the car since last Saturday.
Ignore the one about incorrect coding on the 5F - that's always been there, since the unit was fitted to the car and I've never been able to figure out what's incorrect that's causing it. It's most likely not related to the issues it's causing me now. I also have a bulb out in one of the front headlamps which I've not had a chance to replace yet.
--------------------------------------------------------------- Full scan Control Units: 17 Fault count: 4 Control Units: 01 Engine System description: R4 2,0L EDC Software number: 04L906021EP Software version: 6283 Hardware number: 04L907309A Hardware version: H22 Faults: No trouble codes found
16 Steering Column System description: Lenks. Modul Software number: 5Q0953507BM Software version: 0070 Hardware number: 5Q0953549 Hardware version: 007 Faults: No trouble codes found
03 Brakes System description: ESC Software number: 5Q0907379CK Software version: 0472 Hardware number: 5Q0907379G Hardware version: H31 Faults: No trouble codes found
08 Air Conditioning System description: Climatronic Software number: 5G0907044AA Software version: 0705 Hardware number: 5G0907044AA Hardware version: H02 Faults: No trouble codes found
09 Central Electrics System description: BCM MQBAB H Software number: 5Q0937084AA Software version: 0112 Hardware number: 5Q0937084AA Hardware version: H14 Faults: No trouble codes found
13 Adaptive Cruise Control System description: ACC Bosch MQB Software number: 5Q0907572A Software version: 0141 Hardware number: 5Q0907572 A Hardware version: H03 Faults: No trouble codes found
15 Airbag System description: AirbagVW20 Software number: 5Q0959655AA Software version: 0386 Hardware number: 5Q0959655AA Hardware version: 014 Faults: No trouble codes found
2B Steering Column Lock System description: ELV-MQBA Software number: 5Q0905861 Software version: 0010 Hardware number: 5Q0905861 Hardware version: H06 Faults: No trouble codes found
42 Driver Door System description: TSG FS Software number: 5Q0959593A Software version: 0006 Hardware number: 5Q0959593 Hardware version: 012 Faults: No trouble codes found
44 Steering Assistance System description: EPS_MQB_ZFLS Software number: 3Q0909144D Software version: 5011 Hardware number: 3Q0909144E Hardware version: 502 Faults: No trouble codes found
52 Passenger Door System description: TSG BFS Software number: 5Q0959592A Software version: 0006 Hardware number: 5Q0959592 Hardware version: 012 Faults: No trouble codes found
55 Headlight Regulation System description: AFS-ECU Software number: 7P6907357A Software version: 0080 Hardware number: 7P6907357A Hardware version: H07 Faults: No trouble codes found
76 Parking Assistant System description: PARKHILFE 8K Software number: 5Q0919294C Software version: 0033 Hardware number: 5Q0919294A Hardware version: H02 Faults: No trouble codes found
A9 Structure Borne Sound System description: SAS-GEN 2 Software number: 5G0907159 Software version: 0011 Hardware number: 4H0907159A Hardware version: H06 Faults: No trouble codes found
B7 Start System Interface System description: VWKESSYMQB Software number: 5Q0959435A Software version: 0604 Hardware number: 5Q0959435 Hardware version: 021 Faults: No trouble codes found
19 Gateway System description: GW MQB High Software number: 5Q0907530M Software version: 1144 Hardware number: 5Q0907530F Hardware version: 125 Faults: U006500 - Vehicle Communication Bus E Performance static Priority - 2 Malfunction frequency counter - 1 Unlearning counter - 122 km-Mileage - 155252 km Supply voltage, terminal 30 - 11.8 V Terminal 15 - On Unknown ambient data - date - 2023-08-24 18:15:52
17 Dashboard System description: KOMBI Software number: 5G6920970A Software version: 2210 Hardware number: 5G6920970A Hardware version: 314 Faults: U111000 - Function restriction due to communication interruption static Priority - 6 Malfunction frequency counter - 1 Unlearning counter - 122 km-Mileage - 155252 km date - 2023-08-24 18:15:54 U111000 - Function restriction due to communication interruption static Priority - 6 Malfunction frequency counter - 1 Unlearning counter - 122 km-Mileage - 155252 km date - 2023-08-24 18:15:54 U111000 - Function restriction due to communication interruption static Priority - 6 Malfunction frequency counter - 1 Unlearning counter - 122 km-Mileage - 155252 km date - 2023-08-24 18:15:54 --------------------------------------------------------------- Full scan Control Units: 17 Fault count: 6 Control Units: 01 Engine System description: R4 2,0L EDC Software number: 04L906021EP Software version: 6283 Hardware number: 04L907309A Hardware version: H22 Faults: No trouble codes found
16 Steering Column System description: Lenks. Modul Software number: 5Q0953507BM Software version: 0070 Hardware number: 5Q0953549 Hardware version: 007 Faults: No trouble codes found
03 Brakes System description: ESC Software number: 5Q0907379CK Software version: 0472 Hardware number: 5Q0907379G Hardware version: H31 Faults: No trouble codes found
08 Air Conditioning System description: Climatronic Software number: 5G0907044AA Software version: 0705 Hardware number: 5G0907044AA Hardware version: H02 Faults: No trouble codes found
15 Airbag System description: AirbagVW20 Software number: 5Q0959655AA Software version: 0386 Hardware number: 5Q0959655AA Hardware version: 014 Faults: No trouble codes found
13 Adaptive Cruise Control System description: ACC Bosch MQB Software number: 5Q0907572A Software version: 0141 Hardware number: 5Q0907572 A Hardware version: H03 Faults: No trouble codes found
2B Steering Column Lock System description: ELV-MQBA Software number: 5Q0905861 Software version: 0010 Hardware number: 5Q0905861 Hardware version: H06 Faults: No trouble codes found
42 Driver Door System description: TSG FS Software number: 5Q0959593A Software version: 0006 Hardware number: 5Q0959593 Hardware version: 012 Faults: No trouble codes found
44 Steering Assistance System description: EPS_MQB_ZFLS Software number: 3Q0909144D Software version: 5011 Hardware number: 3Q0909144E Hardware version: 502 Faults: No trouble codes found
52 Passenger Door System description: TSG BFS Software number: 5Q0959592A Software version: 0006 Hardware number: 5Q0959592 Hardware version: 012 Faults: No trouble codes found
76 Parking Assistant System description: PARKHILFE 8K Software number: 5Q0919294C Software version: 0033 Hardware number: 5Q0919294A Hardware version: H02 Faults: No trouble codes found
A9 Structure Borne Sound System description: SAS-GEN 2 Software number: 5G0907159 Software version: 0011 Hardware number: 4H0907159A Hardware version: H06 Faults: No trouble codes found
B7 Start System Interface System description: VWKESSYMQB Software number: 5Q0959435A Software version: 0604 Hardware number: 5Q0959435 Hardware version: 021 Faults: No trouble codes found
19 Gateway System description: GW MQB High Software number: 5Q0907530M Software version: 1144 Hardware number: 5Q0907530F Hardware version: 125 Faults: U006500 - Vehicle Communication Bus E Performance static Priority - 2 Malfunction frequency counter - 3 Unlearning counter - 122 km-Mileage - 155152 km Supply voltage, terminal 30 - 14.0 V Terminal 15 - On Unknown ambient data - date - 2023-08-22 13:23:34
09 Central Electrics System description: BCM MQBAB H Software number: 5Q0937084AA Software version: 0112 Hardware number: 5Q0937084AA Hardware version: H14 Faults: B126301 - Tank lid unlock activation Electrical error static Priority - 4 Malfunction frequency counter - 1 Unlearning counter - 116 km-Mileage - 155151 km Terminal 15 status - Off Terminal 50 status - Off Voltage - 12.0 V Outside air temperature - 19.0 °C Status Bremslichtschalter (HW) - Off Status Bremslichtschalter (CAN) - Off Off - not activated Parking light - not activated Automatic high beam assist - operated Low beam - not activated Parking light left - not activated Parking light right - not activated Letzte Weckursache/ Werte [00;2E] - gültiges Funktelegramm CAN-Bus aktiv - On date - 2023-08-22 08:43:40
17 Dashboard System description: KOMBI Software number: 5G6920970A Software version: 2210 Hardware number: 5G6920970A Hardware version: 314 Faults: U111000 - Function restriction due to communication interruption static Priority - 6 Malfunction frequency counter - 3 Unlearning counter - 122 km-Mileage - 155152 km date - 2023-08-22 13:23:36 U111000 - Function restriction due to communication interruption static Priority - 6 Malfunction frequency counter - 3 Unlearning counter - 122 km-Mileage - 155152 km date - 2023-08-22 13:23:36 U111000 - Function restriction due to communication interruption static Priority - 6 Malfunction frequency counter - 3 Unlearning counter - 122 km-Mileage - 155152 km date - 2023-08-22 13:23:36
55 Headlight Regulation System description: AFS-ECU Software number: 7P6907357A Software version: 0080 Hardware number: 7P6907357A Hardware version: H07 Faults: C108313 - Left stationary AFS Open circuit static Priority - 2 Malfunction frequency counter - 1 Unlearning counter - 118 km-Mileage - 155178 km date - 2023-08-22 18:59:39 --------------------------------------------------------------- Full scan Control Units: 18 Fault count: 33 Control Units: 08 Air Conditioning System description: Climatronic Software number: 5G0907044AA Software version: 0705 Hardware number: 5G0907044AA Hardware version: H02 Faults: No trouble codes found
15 Airbag System description: AirbagVW20 Software number: 5Q0959655AA Software version: 0386 Hardware number: 5Q0959655AA Hardware version: 014 Faults: No trouble codes found
13 Adaptive Cruise Control System description: ACC Bosch MQB Software number: 5Q0907572A Software version: 0141 Hardware number: 5Q0907572 A Hardware version: H03 Faults: No trouble codes found
16 Steering Column System description: Lenks. Modul Software number: 5Q0953507BM Software version: 0070 Hardware number: 5Q0953549 Hardware version: 007 Faults: No trouble codes found
2B Steering Column Lock System description: ELV-MQBA Software number: 5Q0905861 Software version: 0010 Hardware number: 5Q0905861 Hardware version: H06 Faults: No trouble codes found
42 Driver Door System description: TSG FS Software number: 5Q0959593A Software version: 0006 Hardware number: 5Q0959593 Hardware version: 012 Faults: No trouble codes found
44 Steering Assistance System description: EPS_MQB_ZFLS Software number: 3Q0909144D Software version: 5011 Hardware number: 3Q0909144E Hardware version: 502 Faults: No trouble codes found
52 Passenger Door System description: TSG BFS Software number: 5Q0959592A Software version: 0006 Hardware number: 5Q0959592 Hardware version: 012 Faults: No trouble codes found
01 Engine System description: R4 2,0L EDC Software number: 04L906021EP Software version: 6283 Hardware number: 04L907309A Hardware version: H22 Faults: No trouble codes found
03 Brakes System description: ESC Software number: 5Q0907379CK Software version: 0472 Hardware number: 5Q0907379G Hardware version: H31 Faults: No trouble codes found
A9 Structure Borne Sound System description: SAS-GEN 2 Software number: 5G0907159 Software version: 0011 Hardware number: 4H0907159A Hardware version: H06 Faults: No trouble codes found
76 Parking Assistant System description: PARKHILFE 8K Software number: 5Q0919294C Software version: 0033 Hardware number: 5Q0919294A Hardware version: H02 Faults: No trouble codes found
B7 Start System Interface System description: VWKESSYMQB Software number: 5Q0959435A Software version: 0604 Hardware number: 5Q0959435 Hardware version: 021 Faults: No trouble codes found
55 Headlight Regulation System description: AFS-ECU Software number: 7P6907357A Software version: 0080 Hardware number: 7P6907357A Hardware version: H07 Faults: C108313 - Left stationary AFS Open circuit static Priority - 2 Malfunction frequency counter - 1 Unlearning counter - 118 km-Mileage - 155178 km date - 2023-08-22 18:59:39
17 Dashboard System description: KOMBI Software number: 5G6920970A Software version: 2210 Hardware number: 5G6920970A Hardware version: 314 Faults: U111000 - Function restriction due to communication interruption Intermittent Priority - 6 Malfunction frequency counter - 2 Unlearning counter - 160 km-Mileage - 155152 km date - 2023-08-22 13:23:36 U111000 - Function restriction due to communication interruption Intermittent Priority - 6 Malfunction frequency counter - 2 Unlearning counter - 160 km-Mileage - 155152 km date - 2023-08-22 13:23:36 U111000 - Function restriction due to communication interruption Intermittent Priority - 6 Malfunction frequency counter - 2 Unlearning counter - 160 km-Mileage - 155152 km date - 2023-08-22 13:23:36
09 Central Electrics System description: BCM MQBAB H Software number: 5Q0937084AA Software version: 0112 Hardware number: 5Q0937084AA Hardware version: H14 Faults: B126301 - Tank lid unlock activation Electrical error static Priority - 4 Malfunction frequency counter - 1 Unlearning counter - 116 km-Mileage - 155151 km Terminal 15 status - Off Terminal 50 status - Off Voltage - 12.0 V Outside air temperature - 19.0 °C Status Bremslichtschalter (HW) - Off Status Bremslichtschalter (CAN) - Off Off - not activated Parking light - not activated Automatic high beam assist - operated Low beam - not activated Parking light left - not activated Parking light right - not activated Letzte Weckursache/ Werte [00;2E] - gültiges Funktelegramm CAN-Bus aktiv - On date - 2023-08-22 08:43:40
19 Gateway System description: GW MQB High Software number: 5Q0907530M Software version: 1144 Hardware number: 5Q0907530F Hardware version: 125 Faults: U006500 - Vehicle Communication Bus E Performance Intermittent Priority - 2 Malfunction frequency counter - 2 Unlearning counter - 160 km-Mileage - 155152 km Supply voltage, terminal 30 - 14.0 V Terminal 15 - On Unknown ambient data - date - 2023-08-22 13:23:34
5F Multimedia System description: MU-S-ND-ER Software number: 3Q0035874B Software version: 0751 Hardware number: 3Q0035874B Hardware version: 840 Faults: U101400 - Control module incorrectly coded static Priority - 4 Malfunction frequency counter - 1 Unlearning counter - 116 km-Mileage - 155151 km Dynamic environmental data - 0286751017555555155550A9 date - 2023-08-22 08:43:13 U112100 - Databus missing message Intermittent Priority - 6 Malfunction frequency counter - 1 Unlearning counter - 160 km-Mileage - 155194 km Dynamic environmental data - 0286891860FF date - 2023-08-23 13:25:54 U112100 - Databus missing message Intermittent Priority - 6 Malfunction frequency counter - 1 Unlearning counter - 157 km-Mileage - 155152 km Dynamic environmental data - 02868B1860FF date - 2023-08-22 13:23:32 U112100 - Databus missing message Intermittent Priority - 6 Malfunction frequency counter - 1 Unlearning counter - 157 km-Mileage - 155152 km Dynamic environmental data - 02868B1860FF date - 2023-08-22 13:23:32 U112100 - Databus missing message Intermittent Priority - 6 Malfunction frequency counter - 1 Unlearning counter - 157 km-Mileage - 155152 km Dynamic environmental data - 02868B1860FF date - 2023-08-22 13:23:32 U112100 - Databus missing message Intermittent Priority - 6 Malfunction frequency counter - 2 Unlearning counter - 160 km-Mileage - 155152 km Dynamic environmental data - 02868B1860FF date - 2023-08-22 13:23:32 U111100 - Function limitation due to missing message Intermittent Priority - 6 Malfunction frequency counter - 1 Unlearning counter - 160 km-Mileage - 155194 km Dynamic environmental data - 028689 date - 2023-08-23 13:25:54 U112100 - Databus missing message Intermittent Priority - 6 Malfunction frequency counter - 2 Unlearning counter - 160 km-Mileage - 155152 km Dynamic environmental data - 02868B1860FF date - 2023-08-22 13:23:32 U111100 - Function limitation due to missing message Intermittent Priority - 6 Malfunction frequency counter - 2 Unlearning counter - 160 km-Mileage - 155152 km Dynamic environmental data - 02868B date - 2023-08-22 13:23:32 U111100 - Function limitation due to missing message Intermittent Priority - 6 Malfunction frequency counter - 2 Unlearning counter - 160 km-Mileage - 155152 km Dynamic environmental data - 02868B date - 2023-08-22 13:23:32 U112100 - Databus missing message Intermittent Priority - 6 Malfunction frequency counter - 1 Unlearning counter - 157 km-Mileage - 155152 km Dynamic environmental data - 02868B1860FF date - 2023-08-22 13:23:32 U111100 - Function limitation due to missing message Intermittent Priority - 6 Malfunction frequency counter - 2 Unlearning counter - 160 km-Mileage - 155152 km Dynamic environmental data - 02868B date - 2023-08-22 13:23:32 U111100 - Function limitation due to missing message Intermittent Priority - 6 Malfunction frequency counter - 2 Unlearning counter - 160 km-Mileage - 155152 km Dynamic environmental data - 02868B date - 2023-08-22 13:23:32 U111100 - Function limitation due to missing message Intermittent Priority - 6 Malfunction frequency counter - 2 Unlearning counter - 160 km-Mileage - 155152 km Dynamic environmental data - 02868B date - 2023-08-22 13:23:32 U111100 - Function limitation due to missing message Intermittent Priority - 6 Malfunction frequency counter - 2 Unlearning counter - 160 km-Mileage - 155152 km Dynamic environmental data - 02868B date - 2023-08-22 13:23:32 U111100 - Function limitation due to missing message Intermittent Priority - 6 Malfunction frequency counter - 2 Unlearning counter - 160 km-Mileage - 155152 km Dynamic environmental data - 02868B date - 2023-08-22 13:23:32 U111100 - Function limitation due to missing message Intermittent Priority - 6 Malfunction frequency counter - 1 Unlearning counter - 157 km-Mileage - 155152 km Dynamic environmental data - 02868B date - 2023-08-22 13:23:32 U111100 - Function limitation due to missing message Intermittent Priority - 6 Malfunction frequency counter - 2 Unlearning counter - 160 km-Mileage - 155152 km Dynamic environmental data - 02868B date - 2023-08-22 13:23:32 U111100 - Function limitation due to missing message Intermittent Priority - 6 Malfunction frequency counter - 1 Unlearning counter - 160 km-Mileage - 155194 km Dynamic environmental data - 028689 date - 2023-08-23 13:25:54 U111100 - Function limitation due to missing message Intermittent Priority - 6 Malfunction frequency counter - 1 Unlearning counter - 157 km-Mileage - 155152 km Dynamic environmental data - 02868B date - 2023-08-22 13:23:32 U111100 - Function limitation due to missing message Intermittent Priority - 6 Malfunction frequency counter - 2 Unlearning counter - 160 km-Mileage - 155152 km Dynamic environmental data - 02868B date - 2023-08-22 13:23:32 U111100 - Function limitation due to missing message Intermittent Priority - 6 Malfunction frequency counter - 2 Unlearning counter - 160 km-Mileage - 155152 km Dynamic environmental data - 02868B date - 2023-08-22 13:23:32 U111100 - Function limitation due to missing message Intermittent Priority - 6 Malfunction frequency counter - 2 Unlearning counter - 160 km-Mileage - 155152 km Dynamic environmental data - 02868B date - 2023-08-22 13:23:32 U111100 - Function limitation due to missing message Intermittent Priority - 6 Malfunction frequency counter - 1 Unlearning counter - 160 km-Mileage - 155194 km Dynamic environmental data - 028689 date - 2023-08-23 13:25:54 U111100 - Function limitation due to missing message Intermittent Priority - 6 Malfunction frequency counter - 1 Unlearning counter - 160 km-Mileage - 155194 km Dynamic environmental data - 028689 date - 2023-08-23 13:25:54 U111100 - Function limitation due to missing message Intermittent Priority - 6 Malfunction frequency counter - 2 Unlearning counter - 160 km-Mileage - 155152 km Dynamic environmental data - 02868B date - 2023-08-22 13:23:32 U111100 - Function limitation due to missing message Intermittent Priority - 6 Malfunction frequency counter - 2 Unlearning counter - 160 km-Mileage - 155152 km Dynamic environmental data - 02868B date - 2023-08-22 13:23:32
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on Aug 25, 2023 22:39:37 GMT
hmm............ there are 3 x "Full SCAN"s in your post - but the 5F module is only reported in ONE. I assume that these reports have not been edited! Where was the MIB sourced in May 2021 and how was it installed (I note that the SCANs don't have Component Protection errors)
The problem is that ALL the errors on the 5F module are of a general (non specific) type = so it's not clear what's causing the errors. Has there been any coding changes made (look at History again)?
Maybe post-up a copy of the long-code string on the 5F module
Don
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Post by lth0ms0n on Aug 30, 2023 16:21:52 GMT
If you look at my original post, I state that the 5F has failed to show in some of the scans which have been done on the car since the issue became so prevalent. Given that I suspect this is the source of the issue, it would be a tad counter-productive to remove it from the results I've posted - would it not?
The MIB has been fitted to the car "properly" - the car was connected to FAZIT with the MIB installed, where it was then activated against the CAN gateway. This is why there are no Component Protection faults in the scans; it's a Delphi unit and (from my understanding) the Delphi units (unlike their Technicast counterparts) are much harder to crack the Component Protection on, in comparison to fitting them to the car correctly.
The coding on the car hasn't been touched in years - there's been little to no need to make any changes to it as there has been nothing else added to the car since this was fitted to it. The last time it was modified, I was attempting to change the skin from the blue "sport" one (associated with the Golf R) to the red one (from the GTI) as this has always been wrong on the unit and I've never bothered to change it. I didn't have long and didn't get it fixed but the unit was fine after this until a month or so ago, when this trouble started.
It's as follows:
Long coding Control unit: 5F Multimedia Old value: 027303010000000011110202402900101F0302E6718003008F New value: 027303010000000011110202402900101F0202E6718003008F Mileage: 130407 km Date: 2022-04-03 13:27:48
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