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Post by ccramerusc on Feb 17, 2023 22:43:08 GMT
I've been learning on, and playing with, my US spec 17' GTI SE for a couple years now, but I think my changes have started to overlap and now I have a small problem.
First I changed my rear indicators to "KENCHA TAILS" version 2 (inner/outer alternating). Love them!
Next I added the inner rear lights for "Full Rear Brake Lights" so that all 5 come on with the brake. This just seems smart and safe!
Then I added the 5th (top) brake light to flash with the hazards. I love this look! At the same time I set the 5th brake light to come on while in reverse which (along with LED reverse bulbs cranked up to 125) significantly improves visibility of the reverse camera at night.
Everything worked as it should until my most recent changes. Now the 5th brake light comes on with the turn signals.
Is there a way to separate the hazard from the turn signals so that the 5th light will come on with the hazards, but not with the turn signals (indicators)? If so, what should I do and what would you need to see from my changes to determine what can be done? Or is my only option to reverse my 5th light with the hazards change?
TIA for any suggestions.
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on Feb 17, 2023 23:17:55 GMT
Please-post-up screenshots of Leuchte22BR MA57 on this car. To be clear, I need to see ALL 19 x adaptation channels in the pictures
Don
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Post by ccramerusc on Feb 18, 2023 15:12:21 GMT
I more thoroughly tested and realized that the 5th brake light only blinks with the left turn signal. It doesn't come on (as it shouldn't) with the right turn signal. Is my problem the Lichtfunktion E22? Here you go:   |
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on Feb 18, 2023 22:16:55 GMT
ccramerusc: yes, I suspect that your hunch is correct -Well done !!!
Many years ago (way back in early 2016), I wrote a set of instructions for various tweaks to the 3rd Brake-Light on my local Aussie forum - see HERE.
Might be worth a look - perhaps?
Don
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Post by ccramerusc on Feb 19, 2023 14:12:27 GMT
Don, Thanks for the response and compliment. I checked out your link and it looks like I had already made all of those changes except for E22. It's nice to see that others appreciate the 5th brake light. So my problem was definitely Lichtfunktion E22. I changed it to brake light as shown in your link and that fixed my problem of it coming on with the left turn signal, but now the 5th brake light does not come on with the hazard lights. It does come on with reverse and brake pedal. All the rest of the light functions of the tail lights work properly (turn, brake, hazard). Any ideas of how I might be able to get the 5th brake light to flash with the hazards? My Leuchte22BR MA57 now matches exactly as you show in your link. I would have to guess that there's something in the coding from the Kencha Tails that might be messing up the normal adjustments needed for this to work. Chris  |
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on Feb 19, 2023 21:20:02 GMT
Chris: I'm not convinced that Kencha tails has any impact on the operation of the 3rd Brake light! I assume that the Dyn. turn signal mode channel changes have also been made.
I've just checked the coding on my mk7 (103TSI) which has this tweak enabled and operating OK - the only difference in coding from my VWWatercooled settings is: - Leuchte22BR MA57-Dimmwert EF 22 >100 (instead of 127).
I wouldn't have thought that this difference would have any practical effect - but maybe try it?
Don
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Post by ccramerusc on Feb 19, 2023 23:36:06 GMT
Don, Thanks again for the follow up and for checking your own car to compare. I changed Leuchte22BR MA57-Dimmwert EF 22 to 100 which didn't do anything. I also tried about 10 other settings for E22. All the ones left or right and blink or dark phase would make the 5th light work with the hazards, but they all cause the 5th light to blink with a turn signal (left or right based on the setting). All the other settings I tried wouldn't get it to blink with the hazards, yet it still worked properly every time as the 5th brake like when I put a foot on the brake. I don't know what Dyn. turn signal mode is, so maybe I should look into that? I know you said you don't think it's related, but just in case, here's what I did to activate Kencha tails: KENCHA TAILS - for Incandescent tail-light fittings Module 09 (Central Electrics) - Adaptations Leuchte20BR LA71 Check that settings for each of the 19 x adaptation channels in the table below are as indicated in the STOCK setting column Only if the settings are confirmed make the changes as per the Ver 1 column Repeat steps VI and VII for Leuchte21BR RC8, Leuchte23SL HLC10 and Leuchte24SL HRA65. NOTE: To implement Ver 2, make ALL the changes indicated in Ver 1 column, then make the changes indicated in the Ver 2 column (i.e. Ver 2 is reliant on first making Ver 1 alterations)   |
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on Feb 20, 2023 1:17:23 GMT
I don't know what Dyn. turn signal mode is, so maybe I should look into that? Chris: To use a colloquial saying from your part of the world "roger that"!!
So- here's the thing about the "hazard warning light" aspect of this tweak that I obviously didn't emphasize sufficiently on the VWWatercooled web-page:
The Leuchte-command that I add to Lichtfunkion B (see the table in my instructions) is special in that it operates in concert with Dyn. turn signal mode. Translated to (rough) English, this Leuchte-command = Active blinking function has an associated bit set to 1 in pa_dynamic_turn signal (mode).
This means that this Leuchte-command has what programmers call "conditionality". So, to activate this Leuchte-command, you need to also activate the appropriate "Dynamic_turn signal channel"
Now, when I first authored my tweak instruction, it was early 2016 and in those (halcyon) days, the first version mk7 was the only VW release model (at least down here in the very, very deep South-not sure what happened up there in the land-of-the-free  ). Since then of course, we have had various newer model Golfs released including the mk7.5 and the mk8.
To add to the intervening model changes - around the middle of 2016, the good Burghers @ VW decided to radically change the adaptation channel database in the module that OBD11 calls central electrics module. Amongst other things, these changes altered the names of some adaptation channels and they resulted in the deletion of the long-code string in the module
I'm not sure what hex09 module is installed in your car - but if it does NOT have an active long-code string, then the full identity of the (old) Dyn. turn signal channels will be: - Außenlicht_Blinker-ZV_Blinken_auf >active
- Außenlicht_Blinker-ZV_Blinken_zu > active
And: - Außenlicht_Blinker-Warnblinken_Zuendung_AUS > active
- Außenlicht_Blinker-Warnblinken_Zuendung_EIN > active
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Post by ccramerusc on Feb 20, 2023 23:34:04 GMT
Don,
You did it again! Awesome. I made those 4 changes to the Außenlicht_Blinker and now everything works as I hoped it would.
Very, very deep south... Love it! I'll have to remember that one and mention it to the few Aussies that I know up here in the land of free. BTW, I think our government is proposing a new measurement unit: freedom eagles per Budweiser.
Seriously though, I can't thank you enough for sharing your knowledge.
Chris
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on Feb 21, 2023 0:55:27 GMT
Chris: well done and thank you for the kind words!!
Don
PS: Please don't take offense - but there is a reason other than humor why I use the term "very, very. deep south" deliberately to describe the land down-under (where women glow and men chunder - words of a song - "chunder" is Strine, look-it up). It's because I bemoan the fact that Aussie culture is largely the result of America's influence! Again without intending offense and whilst acknowledging that we can learn many good things from your country, I prefer that Australians develop their own identity (free and separate to our country's continuing hagiography for Uncle-Sam )!!
PPS: Who is this person and why doesn't he use the term "barbie"?
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). Since then of course, we have had various newer model Golfs released including the mk7.5 and the mk8. 