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Post by Mikeyd1 on Jun 6, 2017 18:14:42 GMT
Hi i have this fault code when scanning with obdeleven rain/light incorect postion sensor fault. Has anyone came across this?? Thanks in advance
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on Jun 6, 2017 23:43:08 GMT
Mikey: Hi. A bit more information would be useful - What is the exact fault message (perhaps paste-up the section of the scan report), are there any other error messages and what changes have you made to the car?
Don
PS: Oh... and what country are you from and what type of car is this?
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Post by Mikeyd1 on Jun 7, 2017 7:05:29 GMT
Hi its a 2013 vw golf 1.4 tsi ive deactivated stop start and that it. I have cleared the fault but it keeps coming back saying Rain/light recognition sensor Incorrect installation location. I'm in uk.thanks
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on Jun 8, 2017 2:06:03 GMT
Hi its a 2013 vw golf 1.4 tsi ive deactivated stop start and that it. I have cleared the fault but it keeps coming back saying Rain/light recognition sensor Incorrect installation location. I'm in uk.thanks Mikey1:OK - how about you post-up a copy of your scan report, so we can all see how the CAN bus in your car thinks that the Rain/Light sensor is connected to the network. (it should be registered as a slave module to the Central electric module @ address hex09). If you aren't familiar with the process, Ive included visual instructions for how to do this below: When you press the "envelope" symbol in my 2nd screenshot, you should open the native email application on your tablet/phone Send yourself a copy of the scan results - then cut-and-past a copy here. Don
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Post by flatsix9one1 on Jun 8, 2017 12:04:37 GMT
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Post by Mikeyd1 on Jun 9, 2017 19:40:10 GMT
Ok I'll try and do that. Here is the trouble code for now B136676 thanks for it replys much appreciated
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Post by flatsix9one1 on Jun 9, 2017 21:09:04 GMT
As a comparison for my UK GTi,
Trouble codes: B136604 - Rain/light recognition sensor Faulty Intermittent
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Post by Mikeyd1 on Jun 11, 2017 17:50:43 GMT
Here's some more information
OBDeleven data log
Date: 2017-06-11 18:28
VIN: WVWZZZAUZDW114573 Car: Volkswagen Golf Year: 2013 Body type: 3-dr hatchback Engine: CMBA Mileage: 8077 KM
--------------------------------------------------------------- 09 Central Electrics
System description: BCM MQBAB M Software number: 5Q0937084N Software version: 0106 Hardware number: 5Q0937084N Hardware version: H14 Serial number: 00011306301533 ODX name: EV_BCMCONTI ODX version: 010001 Long coding: 03040842C20102730F244080B10403281000000000000000000000000000
Subsystems: System description: WWS 130227 Software version: 0551 Hardware version: 042 Serial number: 130228095008 Long coding: 0E4DD5
System description: RLS Software version: 0042 Hardware version: 024 Serial number: Y13M01D31H19M46S20S4 Long coding: 00A8DD
System description: Sensor, DWA Software version: 0313 Hardware version: 005 Serial number: 000000000ZY130380319
System description: Sirene, DWA Software version: 0311 Hardware version: 004 Serial number: 00000000000056093580
Trouble codes: B136676 - Rain/light recognition sensor Incorrect installation location Intermittent
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on Jun 11, 2017 23:17:51 GMT
Mikey: Thanks for posting up the scan report. The pertinent part of the code-string for the Central electric module that relates to the Rain Light sensor is Byte 6. Your code-string is 03040842C201 02730F244080B10403281000000000000000000000000000, so the value of Byte 6 is hex02 which is correct. Also, as you can see from your post, the actual Rain Light sensor is a "slave" module to the Central electric module (OBD11 calls this a Subsystem). It uses what VW calls "LIN" protocol (which is a single wire protocol - see the purple/white wire in the diagram below) to talk to the Central electrics module. In your scan report, the RLS has a code string value of hex00A8DD which is the correct factory setting. So what this analysis suggests (I think)is that perhaps the Trouble code may not be code/adaptation channel related. The fact that the error message says that the fault is "intermittent" also supports this hypothesis (perhaps). Given that the supply voltage to the RLS is "Terminal 30" - T30 (as per my picture), this module is energized even when the ignition is turned-off (albeit, I suspect that the module does "sleep" after a period of time when the ignition is turned-off). This means that the RLS is being monitored for circuit integrity 24/7 (I think). The other point worth considering is that the +12V supply to the RLS comes from fuse #8 on the "C" fuse box (the one in the glove box for our RHD vehicles). This is the same fuse that supplies the T30 pin on the rotary light switch - so you might want to "jiggle" this fuse to ensure that the connection is OK - don't pull the fuse because it also supplies the CAN Gateway module. It's a very simple wiring arrangement - perhaps it might be prudent to check the connections/wires in my picture (I'm guessing) Finally, your scan report says that the Trouble code was "intermittent" which means that whilst the error was detected in the past, it wasn't an active fault when the module was polled on 2017-06-11 @ 18:28hrs. Try clearing the error message and see if it reappears Don
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Post by Mikeyd1 on Jun 12, 2017 15:35:34 GMT
Thanks for reply. I've tried clearing the code but reappears.and my auto wipers won't work. Can u please tell me where the fuses are so I can check. Thankyou
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Post by Mikeyd1 on Jun 12, 2017 16:17:38 GMT
Just realized u told me what fuse to check . Can u tell me how to remove glove box. Thanks again
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on Jun 12, 2017 21:53:54 GMT
Just realized u told me what fuse to check . Can u tell me how to remove glove box. Thanks again Mikey: read THISDon
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Post by Mikeyd1 on Jun 13, 2017 6:13:18 GMT
Thanks mate
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Post by Mikeyd1 on Jun 14, 2017 13:50:42 GMT
I checked fuse all seems ok. But I can't check the wires to rain sensor as I can't get the plastic cover above the auto dimmin mirror off. Lol
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on Jun 14, 2017 22:48:53 GMT
I checked fuse all seems ok. But I can't check the wires to rain sensor as I can't get the plastic cover above the auto dimmin mirror off. Lol Like this: Don
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Post by Mikeyd1 on Jun 15, 2017 10:42:54 GMT
Hmm mine is a bit different to that mine is in 2 parts. I'll give it another try later. Thanks for the reply and diagram
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Post by ahpaul82 on May 18, 2021 10:56:15 GMT
I checked fuse all seems ok. But I can't check the wires to rain sensor as I can't get the plastic cover above the auto dimmin mirror off. Lol Like this: Don Sorry to bump up old thread. Is it necessary to put silicone gel after windscreen replaced? The windscreen shop seems no put any after replaced my GTI MK7 front windscreen. Apparently I also getting this error code : U10F500 before & after windscreen replaced. Autowiper and autolight seems working fine through..
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on May 18, 2021 23:29:54 GMT
hmm........ according to the VW manual - yes, the silicon pad IS required. I've never tried it without the gel, but I wouldn't have thought that the error could be cleared if the gel pad wasn't installed (and the sensor was then correctly seated against the pad)
How does condensation build-up stop between the inside of the windscreen and the sensor - without the pad?
Don
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Post by ahpaul82 on May 20, 2021 13:05:04 GMT
Sorry to make you confused, The error code appeared before windshield replaced, It appear after cleared, seems not possible to get rid of the error code, don't know why.
While condensation issue, I'm living in hot climate country (Malaysia), Guess it shouldn't happen.. Anyway I will get gel pads install, Just wonder where to get one.. Hmmm..
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on May 20, 2021 20:39:05 GMT
eBay
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Post by lth0ms0n on Jun 10, 2021 19:41:32 GMT
My car is also reporting this at the moment.
I’m getting fault code B136676 in OBD11 and it says High Beam Assist is activated.
At the moment, that’s not even an option on my car - I’m wondering if I have mistakenly activated something as I’ve been looking through the long coding to familiarise myself with the options/interface. I have recently also activated some of the apps (fading interior lights, fogs when indicating/turning, throttle and engine responsiveness and I think that’s it…) which may be worth mentioning.
Does anyone know where the high beam assist option is so I can check it’s not on unintentionally?
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on Jun 10, 2021 22:07:33 GMT
have a look in History for the changes that have been made - if you can't find any records that might explain the HBA problem, post up your history file and we can review the information Don
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