oic0
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Post by oic0 on Sept 18, 2022 16:18:54 GMT
Mk8 GTI. My two annoyances with the car are that I have to hold the brake to release the parking brake and that it bugs the heck out of me to hold the wheel when I use travel assist. I don't want to let go of the wheel, I just don't want to have to hang in at 10 and 2 like a Drivers Ed student. I'd like it to leave me alone if my hand is on the wheel.
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Post by mitigating on Sept 19, 2022 5:31:49 GMT
For Travel Assist I don't think you need to have your hands in one particular position. Simply resting my hand on the bottom of the steering wheel seems to avoid the warning.
I haven't actually done tests though
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Post by platterfoot on Sept 19, 2022 12:37:36 GMT
Mk8 GTI. My two annoyances with the car are that I have to hold the brake to release the parking brake and that it bugs the heck out of me to hold the wheel when I use travel assist. I don't want to let go of the wheel, I just don't want to have to hang in at 10 and 2 like a Drivers Ed student. I'd like it to leave me alone if my hand is on the wheel. No way to disable take-over steering on our end of things. “Hard coded” as far as I know. I can’t really complain because I used to have a Jetta and I coded adaptive lane tracking with adaptive cruise control, which is a less advanced travel assist basically, but with that I had to “jolt” the steering wheel to get rid of take over steering. At least with the golf I can just touch the wheel and it goes away ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ |
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Post by mitigating on Sept 21, 2022 14:13:48 GMT
I owned a 2021 Tesla Model 3 LR and the wheel wasn't capative touch, and like your Jetta I had to actually reset my hand on the steering wheel enough to weigh it to one side. The downside of this is that you need to actually have hand weighing down the wheel the upside is they sell weights that mimic a hand holding the wheel.
With the mk8 Golf it's actually capacitive touch I believe. Depending on how complex it is:
Basic:
- Cross the wires so it always thinks there current?
If it monitors for voltage changes:
- Create a device that randomly adjusts the voltage between two values and attach that to the leads, this will simulate how holding a hand on the wheel may change the voltage
This is all assuming it's capacitive touch, need to experiment more by placing my hand on it without adding weight. This has to be done before it complains because at that point I think it wants wheel movement.
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Post by ch47av8r on Sept 23, 2022 1:13:50 GMT
"Buttons" are capacitive.
Hand on the wheel detects movement. Drive down a very straight road and the car will complain and eventually emergency brake if you don't deliberately move the wheel periodically.
I think the weight trick may work...
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Post by newty on Sept 23, 2022 4:56:37 GMT
Touch detection in the wheel is capacitive.
Yes. I tried it. Yes, you can read out measurements in the Gateway regarding touch detection.
Adding constant momentum (some people glued fishing weights on the MK7) does not work anymore, since there is no slight jiggle for detection on straights anymore.
Electric approaches: the control unit for the touch detection is inside the steering wheel. Just shorting its inputs will likely not work. I honestly do not know if just adding some basic electronic parts will work if you need to generate some nondiscrete signal
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Post by ch47av8r on Sept 23, 2022 14:39:27 GMT
Roger that.
Mine must not work.
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Post by mitigating on Oct 16, 2022 13:51:45 GMT
It's a capactive sensor and steering wheel movement sensor? What about an oscillating voltage device ?
The goal is to sleep while driving
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Post by newty on Oct 16, 2022 15:39:51 GMT
I am sure that there are easier and more successful ways to commit suicide. And that all I am willing to contribute.
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Post by platterfoot on Oct 17, 2022 16:00:56 GMT
I don’t think I can be objective anymore. That’s just funny af 😭 🤣 💀
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Post by mitigating on Oct 17, 2022 20:05:49 GMT
Newty, did you notice the strange sensor on the bottom of the steering column facing down?
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Post by newty on Oct 18, 2022 6:09:36 GMT
Sure. What's wrong with the interior temperature sensor?
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