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Post by stefflimitless on Sept 1, 2022 15:20:18 GMT
Anyone have an idea how to code the inner tail lights to brake lights? I read in the t-roc forum how to, but it’s not possible. Maybe the LEDs not strong enough. When i code the Type of Load as Brake Light (Standard is Allgemeine LED 12 W) it gives a light error in the dash.
DRL and Parking light was no problem.
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Post by webloxx on Sept 5, 2022 18:49:28 GMT
Hi,
Can’t you just add a Light Function ‘Bremslicht’, dimming 127 and dimming direction Maximize?
Seen as in Leuchte20 and 21.
Those are the ‘outer tail lights’.
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on Sept 6, 2022 1:58:06 GMT
stefflimitless : If you want inner lights on the tails to operate like the outer lights - why don't you simply copy the values from the 2 x outer lights and paste them onto the values on the inner lights (except for Lampendefektbitposition and Fehlerort mittleres Byte DTC-DFCC channels)?
Don
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Post by stefflimitless on Sept 6, 2022 21:19:54 GMT
I tried nearly everything. When i code inner Tail lights to „100% active“ and set Dimming to 127 maximize-> it is not that bright like a brake light in use.
It works with braking, but not that bright like the outers are. And must switch of DRL and Parking light on C and D.
But that you s not the solution.
Think it needs more power to get more bright.
Like i said, when i change the Type of load from „Allgemeine LED 12W“ to any other setting, the error occures.
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on Sept 7, 2022 0:52:16 GMT
stefflimitless : hmm........ very confusing!! Why would you change "Type of load" (Lasttyp channel) if you haven't physically altered the actual lamp - doesn't make sense!!
Leuchte programming isn't that sophisticated, but it does require that certain rules are followed - it's very unforgiving if this doesn't happen. From your words, it sounds as if you have breached some of these rules
If you want further help, I suggest that you post-up screenshots of the Leuchte-sets for both the outer brake light and the inner light on one side of the car (doesn't matter which car-side). To be clear, I need to see the channel values for ALL 19 x channels for each Leuchte-set in your screenshots.
Don
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Post by stefflimitless on Sept 7, 2022 8:09:42 GMT
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Post by stefflimitless on Sept 7, 2022 8:11:24 GMT
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on Sept 8, 2022 1:52:46 GMT
stefflimitless : wow - I have no idea how the values in your screenshots are meant to operate (very odd indeed)!! Anyhow - try this: Make sure that you correctly identify the Leuchte-sets on the left and right side of the car (after coding - check that Single Side Parking Light function works correctly)
Right-side lamps (inner & outer)
Lasttyp > 43 - allgemeine LED
Lampendefektbitposition > don't change from current value
Fehlerort mittleres Byte DTC-DFCC > don't change from current value
Lichtfunktion A > Bremslicht
Lichtfunktion B > Tuerausstiegslicht vorne rechts
Dimmwert AB > 127
Lichtansteuerung HD AB > Always
Lichtfunktion C > Standlicht
Lichtfunktion D > Parklichtrechts
Dimmwert CD > 28
Dimming Direction CD > maximize
Lichtfunktion E > not active
Lichtfunktion F > not active
Dimmwert EF > 0
Dimming Direction EF > maximize
Lichtfunktion G > not active
Lichtfunktion H > not active
Dimmwert GH > 0
Dimming Direction GH > maximize
Left-side lamps (inner & outer)
Lasttyp > 43 - allgemeine LED
Lampendefektbitposition > don't change from current value
Fehlerort mittleres Byte DTC-DFCC > don't change from current value
Lichtfunktion A > Bremslicht
Lichtfunktion B > Tuerausstiegslicht vorne links
Dimmwert AB > 127
Lichtansteuerung HD AB > Always
Lichtfunktion C > Standlicht
Lichtfunktion D > Parklichtlinks
Dimmwert CD > 28
Dimming Direction CD > maximize
Lichtfunktion E > not active
Lichtfunktion F > not active
Dimmwert EF > 0
Dimming Direction EF > maximize
Lichtfunktion G > not active
Lichtfunktion H > not active
Dimmwert GH > 0
Dimming Direction GH > maximize
Don
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Post by stefflimitless on Sept 8, 2022 6:14:34 GMT
Hi Don
Thanks for the codings. I will try it later, it’s rainy now. But i want to keep the scandinavian DRL. So code it on EF?
I know it looks weird when i coded some Dimmwert to „5“, but it doesn’t matter which value, it keeps always same brightness. It’s just to activate the LED.
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Post by stefflimitless on Sept 8, 2022 6:22:19 GMT
Lasttyp 43 i don’t have. I have ios. When i count up and stop on 43, there is „Allgemeine LED 6w“
Stock settings was „51 not defined“ on outer and „Allgemeine LED 12W“ on inner. Never changed that.
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Post by stefflimitless on Sept 8, 2022 6:26:21 GMT
Btw, i have full LED taillights with dynamic turn signal
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on Sept 8, 2022 23:57:18 GMT
Hmm....... OK - my settings were created from cars like Audi A3/8V and Golf mk7/mk7.5 which have a MQB platform. Your Skoda may be a little different- so some variations may be required!
So, here's the thing regarding your DRL suggestion: think about what happens during daylight conditions if you "do it on EF". If you code DRL with full illumination (as it was coded in your screenshots) - how does the driver at the rear of your car know when you apply the brakes?
If you "do it on EF", I suggest that you use a Dimmwert value of 28 (the same as the illumination level for Parking Light and Single Side Parking Light in my values above)
Don
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Post by stefflimitless on Sept 9, 2022 9:42:34 GMT
I tried the Golf coding as well. The result is, when braking, The inner lights are like set to 50. although set to 127.
That’s why i think the inner LED is unable to take more power.
Like i told, when i set it to „5“ it gives just the impulse.
Outer brake light is stock coding, i just add functions, and works perfect with DRL/Brake
I will try your coding now with the „28“ and give feedback
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Post by stefflimitless on Sept 10, 2022 16:14:48 GMT
Result: No change  |
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Post by stefflimitless on Sept 10, 2022 16:26:29 GMT
Maybe this is helpful for you Don, to understand Skodas electric  |
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on Sept 11, 2022 0:39:34 GMT
I'm, not sure if you are aware how the nomenclature of Leuchte-sets works, but the pin-out on the central electrics module is embedded into the name.
For example, in your screenshots from an earlier post, you identified Leuchte23SL HLC7 as applying to the inner lamp. The name part "LA70" means: - "L"= Links ("Left" in my language)
- "C" = central electrics module, Socket C
- "7" = pin #7
On your wiring diagram (WD), the inner tail-light fitting on the left-side is MX5 and the inner lamp in question is M4 - notice that the wire from this lamp is terminated on J519 (the central electrics module) on T73c /7, which means Socket C, pin #7. This confirms that we have the correct Leuchte-set - which is good!!
As I have already said, I'm not sure about the Skoda - I would have thought that the electronics inside both the outer and inner fittings (shown as a transistor symbol in the WD) would only apply to the turn-signal function. I can understand why there is a need to control the operation of the turn-signal lamp for the dynamic blinking facility - but I can't think of a reason why there would be a need to "limit the power of the inner lamp".
If these were incandescent lamps, it might be that Skoda made savings on the production-line to reduce the amount of copper in the lamp bases by reducing the power to the inner lamp - but these are LED lamps, so it simply doesn't make sense (to me, at least). If anyone reading this has another theory - please respond!
It's entirely up to you - but you could try experimenting with Leuchte23SL HLC7 - like this: - Turn-off every lighting function (by setting every Lichtfunktion channel = nicht aktiv) except for Lichtfunktion A.
- Set Lichtfunktion A = Bremslicht and Dimmwert AB = 127
- Does the inner lamp illuminated fully?
- Set Lichtfunktion A = Standlicht and Dimmwert AB = 127
- Does the inner lamp illuminate fully?
Go back to the History option on OBD11 and look through your records for the earliest change that you made to Leuchte20BR LA70 - Lasttyp 20 - hopefully this is the original factory setting for this channel. Apply this value to Leuchte23SL HLC7- Lasttyp 23.
Repeat the Bremslicht/Standlicht procedure above for Leuchte23SL HLC7
Don
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