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Post by arandax on Aug 8, 2022 8:56:34 GMT
I know that (partial) travel assist and / or pACC can be activated without a capacitive steering wheel, I've managed to activate Emergency Assist, anyone can give some help activating it?
I've read on other cars like Golf MK8 that these are the activations:
A5 - HC Variante 2
13 - Travel assist active.
other suggestions?
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Post by arandax on Aug 8, 2022 19:45:26 GMT
 ok I managed to activate the travel assist, now I need to activate the predictive ACC... I'm pretty sure someone already did this.. can someone provide some help? |
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Post by tl23 on Aug 15, 2022 20:58:56 GMT
I’ve been trying to code active lane assist for so long, what did you change to be able to get this to work?
I have AAC already and the same flat bottom steering wheel as you?
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Post by stefflimitless on Aug 16, 2022 6:30:30 GMT
ok I managed to activate the travel assist, now I need to activate the predictive ACC... I'm pretty sure someone already did this.. can someone provide some help? pACC is a SwaP (Software as Product) and not possible to unlock with OBD11/VCDS. Mostly the Front Radar (unit 13) has to be flashed or cracked and a new Dataset is needed. |
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Post by arandax on Aug 16, 2022 8:51:29 GMT
This is what I've changed:
- A5: long coding, point of intervention - early setting over menu
- A5: long coding, Hc variante - variante 2
If you want Emergency Assist too,
A5 : long coding, emergency assist - EA Variant 4
Note that I've tested Emergency Assist (I have DSG) everything is OK, car stops if no hands detected for a while BUT it starts again after few seconds.... I don't like this at all.. if I'm faint, car must stop and keep stopped!!
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Post by mustafab97 on Oct 4, 2022 8:42:28 GMT
This worked for me too thanks 👍🏻
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Post by nikogu on Oct 6, 2022 16:04:39 GMT
hello, i am trying to activate ACC but it doesn’t work. i made all the coding that you wrote here and now my car stopped to work lane assist completely: now the steering wheel doesn’t respond anymore to the car going out of lane. is there a way to revert the coding to the default one? i did not make a backup of it  |
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Post by arandax on Oct 6, 2022 19:02:21 GMT
this coding is for travel assist, not ACC...
Have you pressed the button at the side of turning signal stick?
I know that default value of HC variante is 0, and early point of intervention is maybe late.
Don't know the others.
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Post by auditor on Jul 1, 2023 12:15:10 GMT
ok I managed to activate the travel assist Hi, I’d like to activate travel assist too on my A3 GY bought in 2022. I purchased AAC via FOD on official Audi connect app, but travel assist wasn’t there and couldn’t be bought. I also asked to Audi service if would have been possible to activate souch feature as official retrofit but I got no answers so I’m looking forward to activate via OBDeleven. Actually I don’t have the dongle and I was wondering if the activation is something easy to manage or it’s a risky process. Is there an app for that? I don’t have experience with OBD dongles and I’m a little worried about potential issues with car software, but if is just plug and play process I could try… |
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Post by helicopterred on Jul 3, 2023 7:12:19 GMT
Just to clear things up here.
What is travel assist?
Is this where the car will stay in the center of the road? at present my car only steers/corrects when i get close to the white line and rumbles when i go over it. UK spec
I am interested in center keeping and predictive ACC (where the car changes its speed to the speed limit when in ACC, my ACC is purchased from FOD, but it didn't activate predictive ACC) Is this what we are referring to here? or is this something else?
Apologies for the questions, as there are so many version of each function with very similar acronyms, that it gets a bit confusing.
Cheers
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Post by auditor on Jul 3, 2023 18:42:35 GMT
Yes travel assist keeps you at the center of the road.
It’s not “passive” like lane assist, which brings you back inside the road when you overcome the lines.
I bought my A3 with lane assist enabled by default, then I bought ACC via fod but it manages everything related to speed not the steering part.
Travel assist is something more evolved than lane assist and along with ACC enables something similar to self driving.
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Post by wyderb on Jul 6, 2023 21:43:22 GMT
There is ready app in OBD "Adaptive Lane Gudiance" and I turned on but in results nothing change. Maybe I got different software ver. unfortunetly I don`'t have pro version so I can't coding as in first post.
If you worried about any issue, make backup before.
Arandax: which soft ver do you have?
I`m so interested to turn on that function in my A3. i got this in A6 and it`s brilliant.
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Post by arandax on Jul 8, 2023 11:51:28 GMT
I'm on ver. 3620
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Post by auditor on Jul 11, 2023 22:44:00 GMT
I recently had my A3 at Audi service. They updated the software, I have to check what’s my actual version but I assume it’s the last available.
As far as I understand, pro version is needed to enable travel assist…Then you are speaking about long coding, because there’s no app working for that, did I get it right?
That could be a blocking point for me as I’m not practical with this stuff…
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Post by arandax on Jul 21, 2023 14:02:55 GMT
Yes, specially when coding needs SFD to be unlocked
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Post by audi8y2021 on Aug 7, 2023 19:34:58 GMT
Any of you already had some luck with activating it? Changing the values to the above mentioned did not work for me either. Maybe a strange question, but there seem to be like 6 HC_Variante options. Is there a list with what they all mean?
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Post by brktrksvr on Aug 27, 2023 22:20:21 GMT
I just turned on ACC and I may also have figured out how to enable predictive ACC. From my current understanding, navigation and traffic sign recognition functions are prerequisites. I will detail how I did it if I end up being successful.
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Post by tl23 on Aug 28, 2023 13:55:50 GMT
Please share if you do!
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Post by mbackonja on Sept 1, 2023 10:01:47 GMT
Hey guys, should I enable this manually like you did here: - A5: long coding, point of intervention - early setting over menu
- A5: long coding, Hc variante - variante 2
Or should I activate this One-Click App: obdeleven.com/supported-vehicles?Audi/A3/2020/adaptive-lane-guidanceIs it even the same thing? If yes, does anybody knows if this One-Click app is changing those two coding above or something else, or even more? |
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Post by vaporwheels on Sept 3, 2023 8:47:26 GMT
Hi there One-Click apps developer, I've activated Adaptive Lane Assist on the the APP with the one click apps obdeleven.com/supported-vehicles?Audi/A3/2020/adaptive-lane-guidanceand nothing happened aside from getting a message on start that says Adaptive Cruise Assist: With Lane Guidance on the virtual cockpit. The MMI is not showing any changes on Driver Assist, as far as I know i should be able to see wether a new menu Adaptive Cruise Assist or a new option under Lane Departure Warning to activate it, so i checked the control unit to verify the state of point of intervention and it is checked to early, I believe it should be checked under Early setting over menu. Since it seems that did not work properly on my A3 8Y 2020, im thinking to revert the one click app to be safe and get a PRO Subscription so I can follow the steps named above. I do wonder, what actually does the one click app  So I can revert the changes under long coding instead of purchasing credits in order to revert it. Is the default value of point of intervention late by any chance ? Does Adaptive Cruise Assist: With Lane Guidance message appears since this was modified to early or something else changed ? Sorry I just do not want to mees anything up !! Add image to post |
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Post by mbackonja on Sept 3, 2023 19:19:10 GMT
vaporwheels On some other threads I found " late > early_setting_over_menu" and on a few other places something like " old: late - new: early_setting_over_menu" so I believe the factory settings is " late" but I can't guarantee since I still didn't try anything - still waiting for some answers... Also, I asked her about the "source code" of apps: forum.obdeleven.com/thread/19869/changes-click-app-perform but it looks like it's impossible to see what changes the app would perform... Maybe you made backups before and after and could compare them somehow?
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Post by audi8y2021 on Sept 4, 2023 17:19:03 GMT
The codings posted in this thread seem to work for me! I'm on software version 3306. I have my coding like this: HC_Variante: 2 point of intervention: early (settings over menu) Two things that I notice: - The active lane assist feature works from stopping. So I don't need to go the 65km/h I normally had to do (is this traffic jam assist)?
- It says that adaptive cruise assist is not available. So the slowing down for roundabouts does not seem to work anymore. No idea why. Anyone any idea?
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Post by vaporwheels on Sept 5, 2023 7:41:34 GMT
vaporwheels On some other threads I found " late > early_setting_over_menu" and on a few other places something like " old: late - new: early_setting_over_menu" so I believe the factory settings is " late" but I can't guarantee since I still didn't try anything - still waiting for some answers... Also, I asked her about the "source code" of apps: forum.obdeleven.com/thread/19869/changes-click-app-perform but it looks like it's impossible to see what changes the app would perform... Maybe you made backups before and after and could compare them somehow? , that is correct it seems that the old value was late. Unfortunately i did not backup prior the activation, anyways I had a way back full backup but it does not show any data related to control unit 05 Driver Assistance. The params on control unit 13 Adaptive Cruise Control it seems to have not changed. At this point it seems the only changes were on point of intervention from late to early, was that enough to show the message I attached below on the MMI though ? Now im even wondering if I had this message prior the activation |
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Post by vaporwheels on Sept 5, 2023 7:48:36 GMT
The codings posted in this thread seem to work for me! I'm on software version 3306. I have my coding like this: HC_Variante: 2 point of intervention: early (settings over menu) Two things that I notice: - The active lane assist feature works from stopping. So I don't need to go the 65km/h I normally had to do (is this traffic jam assist)?
- It says that adaptive cruise assist is not available. So the slowing down for roundabouts does not seem to work anymore. No idea why. Anyone any idea?
I do have version 3620, I might subscribe to PRO and do it trough long coding once i revert the changes made from the one click app. Yo said that says ""adaptive cruise assist is not available" does that show on the virtual cockpit, could you attach an image ? Have you tried to activate value from control unit 13 Adaptive Cruise Control - Travel Assist, I do not know what exactly does but it was mention above |
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Post by mbackonja on Sept 5, 2023 16:06:08 GMT
Yup, I'm definitely still confused (even more confused than before)... There are many assistance systems... - Adaptive Cruising Control (from 65 km/h) - Lane Assist (ping-pong from side to side, between lane lines) - Active Lane Assist (or Active Lane Guidance? Or? Centering Lane Assist? - the feature that keeps you in the middle of the lane) - Traffic jam (Adaptive Crusing Control but from 0km/h up to 65km/h? With the ability to entirely stop if the car in front of you stops at traffic lights) - Fatigue Recognition (or Emergency Assist? Or? - the feature that turns on all 4 blinkers, slows down, and then stops the car, calls SOS if you don't hold the steering wheel) - Predictive Adaptive Cruise Control (what's this?) - ...? Is there any definition of those names? What are valid/official names? I have "ping-pong lane assist" on my car and Adaptive Cruise Control from 65 km/h... I want to enable Traffic Jam (stopping in the city jam at traffic lights for example), I also want centering line assist (not the ping-pong one, I already have that one) and I also want Fatigure Recognition or how it's even called - the feature that stops the car if you don't hold steering wheel... audi8y2021 You just enabled "HC_Variante 2" and "point of intervention: early" and you got both centering on the lane and ACC under 65 km/h? Does that mean that you got Traffic Jam as well (yes, I see you asked the same question)... Does anybody know what's "emergency assist - EA Variant 4" - is that stopping the car if you don't hold the steering wheel? Edit:audi8y2021 I just found about "EA Variants" what each number means: EA VARIANT 1-RdW- REST OF WORLD
EA VARIANT 2-NAR
EA VARIANT 3-HOT country
EA VARIANT 4-EUROPE
EA VARIANT 5-JAPAN
EA VARIANT 6-CHINA
But I still don't know what "HC Variant" numbers means |
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Post by vaporwheels on Sept 6, 2023 7:44:07 GMT
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Post by mbackonja on Sept 6, 2023 9:34:50 GMT
Okay, based on this text above, some things are clearer now! Thanks a lot! I thought I didn't have ACC under 65 km/h because I don't have Lane Guidance above 65 km/h but I was wrong... I have ACC under 65 km/h as well with the ability to fully stop if the car in front of me stops... So, " Traffic Jam" is actually " ACC under 65 km/h" + " Active Lane Guidance", right? That's the only difference? Ability to hold the lane under 65 km/h? Based on that assumption, audi8y2021 , yes, this "The active lane assist feature works from stopping. So I don't need to go the 65km/h I normally had to do (is this traffic jam assist)?" is traffic jam assist... Best regards |
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Post by audi8y2021 on Sept 6, 2023 13:36:46 GMT
Okay, so I was not very clear in my explanation. If I start my car, I can set active lane assist on (which is only available when using acc) and off. But, when I do that, my cruise assist (or whatever it is named, the one that slows down for roundabouts and stuff) is not available anymore it says on my dash. The rest still works but that feature is not. I think I will just check errors with obd11 this week. Or maybe knows if I can do it different (only changes the value of the intervention point to: early but maintaining hc_variante to 1 instead of 2?). Does anyone has any idea what the different hc_variante mean? EDIT: I found out some of the meanings of HC_VARIANTE in a Volkswagen Passat: "Variant 0: Lane Assist from 60km/h Variant 1: Lane Assist from 0km/h as Traffic Assist with active ACC Variant 2: Travel Assist with adaptive control only with active Travel Assist (swap)" from here: www.motor-talk.de/forum/passat-fl-lane-assist-von-passiv-auf-aktiv-codieren-t6807118.html?page=8EDIT 2:After driving for some time and turning the car off and on again, the cruise assist error does not pop up anymore and works as expected. kind regards! |
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Post by mbackonja on Sept 6, 2023 18:44:52 GMT
Hmm, your ACC can slow down automatically for roundabouts? Is that "Predictive ACC"? When I start ACC on the highway it says "Adaptive cruise assist: predictive control not available in this country" - is that the feature you are talking about?
And about your "EDIT 2": what codings did you perform in order for everything to start working? Just changed HC_VARIANTE to which value? And invention point to early? Did you also enable "Emergency Assist" to Variant 4 or?
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Post by audi8y2021 on Sept 6, 2023 19:08:19 GMT
hi,
HC_VARIANTE -> 2
Point_of_intervention -> Early
I did not code emergency assist, but maybe I will do that this weekend just to try. I think the error message went away because sometimes just turning it on and off again seems to work. Also got no additional faults via OBDEleven.
Does anyone perhaps know what the following means:
- Adaptive Cruise Control Module -> Long Coding -> Travel Assist (it is now set to deactivated), can I just enable this? I will try it this weekend.
- Adaptive Cruise Control Module -> Long Coding -> PACC Reaction to end of traffic jam (also set do deactivated) anyone any idea what this is.
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So I can revert the changes under long coding instead of purchasing credits in order to revert it.