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Post by blackcobra on May 19, 2022 0:10:49 GMT
Hi ! Please correct me if I am wrong ( I am probably ! ). Not long after getting my new MK8 GTI, I checked online on how to disable Stop / Start and OBDEleven was the top result. A month ago, I ordered a OBDEleven 2nd generation (black) device hoping to disable Stop / Start. I received it last week and to my surprise, I can't seems to figure out where is the Disable Stop / Start application ? I'm almost 100% positive that I saw it when I first downloaded the OBDEleven app on my cell before ordering it . So, Is there an app ? if there is no "pre-built" app for it, how do I do it ? ... Could I do the voltage mod with the "pro" plan or I would need the "ultimate" plan ? Thanks!
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on May 19, 2022 1:14:22 GMT
blackcobra : I hate to be the harbinger of bad news - but the short answer is that OBD11 can't be used to disable SS on later model MQB platform cars - like your MQB-evo car. It was possible to do this on earlier model Golfs using a number of methods (including the "voltage" method). However, probably because of diesel-gate problems, VW clamped-down on these tweaks.
AFAIK, the only way to disable SS on modern VW cars is to use a physical auto SS kill switch which is installed into the wiring loom across the native SS button. But even this method won't work on cars that have capacitive-type switches (so called "gesture" switches) Don
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Post by blackcobra on May 20, 2022 20:51:36 GMT
Ohh, I see . Do you think that OBDEleven will eventually be able to do it, or it will never happen ? Thanks!
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on May 20, 2022 22:11:07 GMT
hmm........ not sure! It's not particularly an OBD11 issue; VCDS (or any other diagnostic device) can't do it either. The problem is innate within the modules themselves.
AFAIK, OBD11 doesn't actively investigate these tweaks - they use tweaks that are in the public domain from various sources (like internet).
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Post by blackcobra on May 22, 2022 19:12:09 GMT
Ok, thank you again!
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Post by Leon on Jun 7, 2022 12:06:47 GMT
Select 19 gateways Select Long coding find this option EMHLR_display_battery_disconnected EMHLR_start_stop_function Installed to Not installed
After modifying the data The gateway control unit stores There is no communication related fault in the battery monitoring unit Does not affect functionality.
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Post by beppegtd on Jun 8, 2022 11:15:50 GMT
Are you sure about this encoding?
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Post by Leon on Jun 8, 2022 12:29:34 GMT
Only some car models are supported, not all car models.Some GTI MK8 owners said that this code worked and some said it didn't work.
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Post by alexa on Jan 14, 2023 0:54:51 GMT
Is there any news about this topic? I have mk8 United (i think its German version of Life edition).
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Post by ropa on Jan 15, 2023 11:14:03 GMT
hi... i am new ! in how mode i disable the start & stop , there is a video to operated this ?
how credits to pay for this ? in HOW mode i pay todo this setting ? is pay in the app or is possible with access in the web site with the computer ? accept PAYPAL for pay the credits ? thanks for all .....
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Post by whataboutthis on Jan 15, 2023 11:18:15 GMT
ropa as has been stated above currently there is no work around for stop start, VW Dont want you to turn it off so they have disabled the old methods. There is no app for that reason. leon has give some coding that works on some cars but as its not across the board it unlikley obd11 will make an app as to many customers would be asking for the money back as it dont work. But happy to be proved wrong.
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Post by ropa on Jan 15, 2023 11:23:45 GMT
thanks to reply but ..... but you SURE for this ? I saw a video on YouTube where it seems to me with Obdeleven by changing the value of the voltage from 8.5 to 12 volts is deactivated! It is for the VW Polo, but I think it also works on the new MK8 golf help from an expert? thank you
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Post by whataboutthis on Jan 15, 2023 16:22:14 GMT
Yes the voltage method does work on older cars, around 2017 VW turned that feature off so we all went to memory modules. But in the newest cars VW have removed the physical buttons so they dont work untill somebody comes up with a solution.
Very happy to be proved wrong but you must remember not all VW Cars are the same platform. Even the MQB Platform has many different versions so you will see stuff that works on one car but not on the Golf8
Added into that you also have SFD Security which is sorted by OBD11 but things have changed.
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Post by newty on Jan 15, 2023 17:37:37 GMT
Just to keep it running here: I have heard of some approaches working and safe which are hardware. Some people may remember some 3rd party PCBs which are to be plugged between the start/stop button and the gateway in MK7, mimicking the driver to press the button. It looks like the same approach can be done with the MK8, using the pins on the gateway which are used for the physical button in the Octiavia 4.
This looks most promising, as there S/S is deeply integrated into the Engine ECU.
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Post by mk8gtd on Jan 17, 2023 9:26:07 GMT
Select 19 gateways Select Long coding find this option EMHLR_display_battery_disconnected EMHLR_start_stop_function Installed to Not installed After modifying the data The gateway control unit stores There is no communication related fault in the battery monitoring unit Does not affect functionality. Options in the menu is "coded" or "not coded" on the mk8 golf
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Post by mitigating on Jan 18, 2023 18:22:03 GMT
There's also a Chinese device that supposedly works on the mk8 called "vagmeb" it's on aliexpress for around $40
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Post by alexa on Jan 24, 2023 15:59:55 GMT
*Posted by LeonJun 7, 2022 at 2:06pm
Select 19 gateways
Select Long coding
find this option
EMHLR_display_battery_disconnected
EMHLR_start_stop_function
Installed to Not installed
After modifying the data
The gateway control unit stores
There is no communication related fault in the battery monitoring unit
Does not affect functionality.*
Golf 2021 United 2.0L diesel 116hp DSG Unfortunately this doesn't work. Does anybody have any other ideas?
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Post by mitigating on Jan 28, 2023 9:46:42 GMT
US $44.73 40%OFF | For VW Golf mk8 Golf A8 ID3 ID4 ID6 Octavia A8 Automatic Stop Start Engine System Off Device Control Sensor Decoder module a.aliexpress.com/_mKZJTceI'm dying to see if this works. I have a manual so I can't test
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Post by jackyhh on Feb 13, 2023 14:44:49 GMT
For Golf R you can try Select 19 Gateway Select Adaptation Specified installation of sub-bus users: Battery Monitoring Control Module:->No An error code will appear: U105000 - Battery Monitoring Control Module No Communication But it does not affect the function.
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Post by dni4ss on Apr 12, 2023 10:46:25 GMT
Hello, right now I searched with OBD11 in the gateway and I did not find this value in any way, the car is Golf MK8 GTI 2021 I will try to search with vcds if I find something about voltage or what you said. So until now we don't have a solution for canceling start/stop and implicitly coasting with it (coasting or sailing is very annoying for me)
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Post by axel06 on Sept 3, 2024 22:21:54 GMT
Thanks jackyhh, works for a GTI 2024 Canada. Stop and Start is unavailable and the engine never stop in any mode.
ReplyQuotelikePost OptionsPost by jackyhh on Feb 13, 2023 at 9:44am For Golf R you can try Select 19 Gateway Select Adaptation Specified installation of sub-bus users: Battery Monitoring Control Module:->No An error code will appear: U105000 - Battery Monitoring Control Module No Communication But it does not affect the function.
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