VW Golf 7 - Bi-Xenon problem

dilyfe76
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VW Golf 7 - Bi-Xenon problem Mar 28, 2022 15:12:51 GMT

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Post by dilyfe76 on Mar 28, 2022 15:12:51 GMT

Hi there guys.

I'm new in here but had no other option than try and ask for your help.

I have bought 2014 VW Golf 7 with Bi-Xenon lights. It was involved in an accident (before he bought it) and repaired but someone changed headlights (dont have old ones). Those are Bi-Xenon too but AFAIK "intelligent lights".

In plug from wiring for a headlight (11pin) it has 11th pin that goes to nothing pin but headlights itself doesnt have this pin, only 10 pin.

Everything is working exept high beam. Shutter is not operating at all. When u turn off lights and flash it flashes as low beam - so switch itselft is OK and on dashboard it shows blue icon.

Does anyone have any idea how to make it working? Is it better to look for a right lights or can it be somehow done to existing ones.

Here are some scans done to a car

Bixenon double TFL
ref: 5G1941033E / 5G1941034E

Adresse 09: Centrale Elec. Labels: 5Q0-937-08X-HV1.CLB

No. VAG du calculateur: 5Q0 937 084 AE Mat: 5Q0 937 084 AE

Pièce et/ou version: BCM MQBAB H H16 0124

Codage logiciel: 04111A46C24122F30BA44080B10C07281800000000000000000000000000

Code atelier: WSC 01357 011 00200

Jeu de données ASAM: EV_BCMCONTI 012001 (VW37)

ROD: EV_BCMBOSCH_012.rod

VCID: 7BF528A8F202105396-802E

2 Codes défaut trouvés:

7690 - Moteur d'écran de feu de croisement gauche

B121B 15 [009] - Circuit ouvert ou c.c. à la masse

Confirmé - Testé depuis RàZ mémoire

Capture:

Etat du défaut: 00000001

Priorité du défaut: 3

Fréquence du défaut: 1

Compteur de RAZ: 252

Kilométrage: 98035 km

Date: 2022.03.24

Temps: 17:22:57

7946 - Moteur d'écran de feu de croisement droit

B121C 15 [009] - Circuit ouvert ou c.c. à la masse

Confirmé - Testé depuis RàZ mémoire

Capture:

Etat du défaut: 00000001

Priorité du défaut: 3

Fréquence du défaut: 1

Compteur de RAZ: 252

Kilométrage: 98035 km

Date: 2022.03.24

Temps: 17:22:57

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Sorry im french , thanks to help me

Last Edit: Mar 28, 2022 15:15:02 GMT by dilyfe76

dilyfe76 New Member Posts: 5	VW Golf 7 - Bi-Xenon problem Mar 28, 2022 19:11:45 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by dilyfe76 on Mar 28, 2022 19:11:45 GMT i pay if anyone can help me i don't want buy new xenon

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VW Golf 7 - Bi-Xenon problem Mar 28, 2022 20:49:05 GMT via mobile

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Post by newty on Mar 28, 2022 20:49:05 GMT

With the DLA Xenons, there is no dedicated shutter channel.
The shutter and all bending light functions are controlled by the 55 control unit.
Without it, I see no real chance.

When it is installed (it should when the car came with any xenon), getting it correctly parametrized (not coded, not adapted) for DLA lamps should do the trick

And sadly, there is a bug which was never fixed: Flashing the high beams without having the low beams on wil cause an low beam flash and will never raise the shutter...

Last Edit: Mar 28, 2022 20:50:50 GMT by newty

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dilyfe76
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VW Golf 7 - Bi-Xenon problem Mar 29, 2022 5:43:42 GMT

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Post by dilyfe76 on Mar 29, 2022 5:43:42 GMT

Mar 28, 2022 20:49:05 GMT newty said:

With the DLA Xenons, there is no dedicated shutter channel.
The shutter and all bending light functions are controlled by the 55 control unit.
Without it, I see no real chance.

When it is installed (it should when the car came with any xenon), getting it correctly parametrized (not coded, not adapted) for DLA lamps should do the trick

And sadly, there is a bug which was never fixed: Flashing the high beams without having the low beams on wil cause an low beam flash and will never raise the shutter...

What can i do , change headlight ..., change 55 control unit ....?

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VW Golf 7 - Bi-Xenon problem Mar 29, 2022 7:12:32 GMT

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Post by newty on Mar 29, 2022 7:12:32 GMT

Make sure you are testing it correctly:
Switch Headlight to On to make sure Low Beams are on
Turn on high beams. Does not matter if flashing or actually switching them on.
(When high beams are working then, there is nothing you can do. This is the behavior VW implemented)

If they are not working this way:
Check with the wiring diagram (erwin.volkswagen.de) what is the correct wiring between the headlights, the central electrics and the 55 ecu.
As said, there is no coding for the shutter, so the coding is
Leuchte 6 to be Abblendlicht links and Lichthupe generell
Leuchte 7 to be Abblendlicht rechts and Lichthupe generell
(everything else should not have any impact on the high beam, shutter is unused, the FL(Fernlicht, high beam) channels are controlling the dot for high-tier DLA)

When this is correct, reparametrize the 55 ecu for DLA. For this, you will need either VCP or ODIS-E plus the needed datasets. VCP has a broad range of datasets to write coming with it, but I am always unsure about the quality of them.

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dilyfe76 New Member Posts: 5	VW Golf 7 - Bi-Xenon problem Mar 29, 2022 14:21:29 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by dilyfe76 on Mar 29, 2022 14:21:29 GMT there are nothing when i turn on high beams
	Last Edit: Mar 29, 2022 15:30:27 GMT by Thirsty

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VW Golf 7 - Bi-Xenon problem Mar 30, 2022 9:09:38 GMT

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Post by newty on Mar 30, 2022 9:09:38 GMT

When Pin 11 is the shutter input: DLA does not have a discretely controlled shutter. The shutter is controlled by the databus.

Then I think your dataset in the 55 is not correct.
Either get a used one from a Car with DLA or flash parameters with said tools.

Please be so kind to set your app's language to English when posting screenshots and before trying out coding suggestions.
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dilyfe76 New Member Posts: 5	VW Golf 7 - Bi-Xenon problem Mar 30, 2022 10:07:24 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by dilyfe76 on Mar 30, 2022 10:07:24 GMT The easiest way is to change the xenon headlight by one with 11 pin , anyone have ref xenon R with 11 pin
	Last Edit: Mar 30, 2022 16:49:52 GMT by Thirsty

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VW Golf 7 - Bi-Xenon problem Mar 30, 2022 11:08:43 GMT

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Post by newty on Mar 30, 2022 11:08:43 GMT

Whatever floats your boat.
There are several ones, assuming you are driving on the right side of the road:
5G1941039 5G1941040 for PR-Code 8IG (Halogen DRL, no Cornering Light)
5G1941753 5G1941754 for PR-Code 8IM (LED DRL, Cornering Light)

As always: Double yourself for applicability

You do not want:
5G1941043 5G1941044 for PR-Code 8IP (DLA)

Letters behind it are marking special versions and designs: A is GTI, B is GTE, E is Golf R (with dual LED DRL)

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valk Full Member Posts: 112	VW Golf 7 - Bi-Xenon problem Mar 31, 2022 17:14:13 GMT via mobile Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by valk on Mar 31, 2022 17:14:13 GMT I’ve send you a pm

drizzy97 New Member Posts: 1	VW Golf 7 - Bi-Xenon problem Jul 18, 2023 10:14:02 GMT via mobile Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by drizzy97 on Jul 18, 2023 10:14:02 GMT Hi did manage to sort out your issue as i have the same problem. Thanks