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Post by suiteautumn on Feb 23, 2022 13:30:18 GMT
Good morning guys,
I tried to search through some existing threads but couldn't find a definitive answer.
I have a Mk 7 GTI Autobahn with the lighting package, and I would like to be able to enable the cornering lights to work with the fog lights turned on.
Not sure why they don't by default, so if anyone knows, I'm curious to know the logic behind it.
Have anyone of you also run into this and found a way to code that on?
Thank you!
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on Feb 23, 2022 20:28:49 GMT
I'm not sure of the logic in your case (maybe you are from USA - lots of odd things happen to mk7s on NAR models), but the "normal" way to enable Static AFS (fog lights as cornering lights) is like this:
On central electrics module - select adaptation
right-side fog - Leuchte13NL RB5 ONLY IF Lichtfunktion B is set to nicht aktiv, change to Abbiegelicht rechts
left-side fog - Leuchte12NL LB45
ONLY IF Lichtfunktion B is set to nicht aktiv, change to Abbiegelicht links
Use security code 31347
Don
PS: don't confuse the Leuchte-commands Abblendlicht and Abbiegelicht
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Post by suiteautumn on Feb 23, 2022 20:48:31 GMT
dv52 (Australia)Hey Don, Sorry for not including that with my post, its a Canadian market vehicle. So I think what you are describing is using the fog lights AS cornering lights, which is NOT what I want. I much prefer to actual separate cornering lights but when I have the fog lights turned on (knob pulled out) the cornering lights stop functioning. If I turn the fog lights off, they go back to working normally. So I want the factory cornering lights in the headlight assembly to turn on regardless of if my fog lights are turned on. Hopefully I explained that a bit better.
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on Feb 24, 2022 0:41:06 GMT
OK - that's an entirly different matter to my first reponse!!
The behavior that you describe is imposed by your road laws - or rather the NAR road laws.
Please read the entire post before proceeding
I'm not sure of the legal implications (for you) of doing so - but to disable these NAR imposed road restrictions, do this:
- goto the Xenon range module @ address hex55 (I'm assuming of course that your car has a hex55 module - it may not!)
- Select coding
- Navigate to Byte 3 and remove tick from Bit 0. Note:this is the software switch for Vehicle/Regulation for North American Region (NAR)
Shortly after this change is implemented, the dashboard should show a fault triangle and an AFS error should be reported - something like "Missing calibration/Basic setting".
As was written on the "Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy" (and the reason why it sold so well), Don't Panic!!
This happens because the code change resulted in the module no longer believing that it was in a NAR model. This causes the hex55 module to lose its original initialization parameters for a NAR vehicle. If you have the headlights switched-ON when doing the change - you will probably notice the beam angle change,
So, the datum information for headlamp alignment (i.e. reference point for level-ground) in the module needs to be re-established to remove the error - like this: This is a 2-part procedure
Important: Make sure the car is fully settled on its suspension and that the vehicle is on level ground
Procedure 1
- Select hex 55 - Xenon Range module
- Select Basic Settings
- Select Basic headlamp setting and start the procedure
- This is where you would adjust the headlights using their manual adjusting screws as referenced against a suitable aiming target - but in your case go to the next step
- If the procedure doesn't automatically stop -wait a period of time (suggest 10 seconds)- then stop the procedure
Procedure 2 (still in Basic Settings)
- Select Acknowledge basic setting and start the procedure
- The reference settings from Procedure 1 above should now be "recorded" in the module
- If the procedure doesn't automatically stop - wait a period of time (suggest 10 seconds)- then stop the procedure
- Back-out of the module, clear any error codes and exit OBD11 software (don't forget to disconnect the OBD11 dongle)
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Post by suiteautumn on Feb 24, 2022 12:51:00 GMT
@dv12
Wow a lot more complicated then I thought.
Alright, thank you for the detailed breakdown.
Would changing this flag make any other significant changes you can think of before I flip the switch?
Would it then flag is as a different market vehicle or kind of a "null" state with no assumptions about what marker its supposed to be in?
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on Feb 24, 2022 21:28:57 GMT
hm..... so here's the thing - because of my location here in the very deep south, I don't get to see too many NAR model cars (in fact, none). In Australia, we don't have the "nanny" rules that appear to happen on Yankee cars!!
So- the answer is I haven't actually done this tweak . But I've enclosed a video from an American friend on another forum who has done this tweak with a VCDS cable. The procedure is the same, but the cable is different- nevertheless, if you watch the video closely, you should be able to identify how my steps fit into the VCDS process.
As I have already said, I have no idea how making this change affects your legal obligations - under the road regulations in USA/Canada. You will need to satisfy yourself in this regard - The liability that I will accept for my instructions exactly equals the payment that I receive for providing advice on this forum (i.e. zero) 
Don
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Post by jamstonmartames on Jul 17, 2022 12:24:30 GMT
Hey I recently retrofitted DCC in my UK Golf R and we've hit some AFS issues on basic settings. Similar to your post is this still the same procedure? In Module 4b (what would normally be 55 but I don't have that) I have missing basic settings. Probably because I've changed Source Height Value from BCM to DCC. Yet how you describe Basic Settings lulls you nicely into some confidence where the screen I'm presented with in 4b is scary and denotes "Transfer Parameter - Factory Setting" within Basic Headlamp Setting  Any ideas on if this is the same thing? Many Thanks James Attachments:
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on Jul 17, 2022 22:50:51 GMT
jamstonmartames : The fault shown on the dashboard (as per your picture) is intended purely as "general information" for the driver. What are the more specific details of this fault as shown on your scan report? Are there any other errors - perhaps on other modules?
Don
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Post by newty on Jul 21, 2022 8:06:52 GMT
It looks like I have my front lights day here. Just a quick reminder on basic settings:
*Coding 4B or 55 will result in the basic settings being deleted:
What actually is "basic settings"? And why you should not reset them in your suburban, inclined driveway...
For automatic headlight levelling, there are up to two sensors on the axles measuring the loading of the car to adjust the lights up or down.
When levelling the headlights, the workshop starts the "basic headlight setting" - the automatic height levelling is turned off, the workshops levels the headlights.
After that "acknowledge basic settings" is called. This re-enables the levelling and also saves the current values from the sensor(s).
The car now has the sensors reading stored and can now level up and down the lights from the basic position.
So what to do for a fair levelling? Park the car in the most level spot you can imagine. Unload as much as possible stuff, level up the tank to level you had when the lights were levelled the last time. Cross fingers, good luck!
Regarding parameters on basic setting for height levels: Just ignore them. Only for matrix lights you need to feed back readings from other instruments.
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Post by gtireland on Dec 8, 2023 18:30:32 GMT
I'm not sure of the logic in your case (maybe you are from USA - lots of odd things happen to mk7s on NAR models), but the "normal" way to enable Static AFS (fog lights as cornering lights) is like this:
On central electrics module - select adaptation
right-side fog - Leuchte13NL RB5 ONLY IF Lichtfunktion B is set to nicht aktiv, change to Abbiegelicht rechts
left-side fog - Leuchte12NL LB45
ONLY IF Lichtfunktion B is set to nicht aktiv, change to Abbiegelicht links
Use security code 31347
Don
PS: don't confuse the Leuchte-commands Abblendlicht and Abbiegelicht
Hi Don, Is there any way of making the AFS lights come on with high beam? Many thanks |
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on Dec 8, 2023 21:18:32 GMT
First, let's reset and make sure that we are both referring to the same thing!! When you say "AFS lights", we need to be clear what is meant by this term.
OP started this thread by specifically referencing "the cornering lights to work with the fog lights turned on".
However, there is another form of "AFS (Advanced Frontlighting System) light" that the mk7 uses that is embedded into the headlight housing on some versions of HID fittings - see the H7 lamp labelled "Static cornering light (AFS)" below
The advice provided in this thread does NOT related to the lamp in the picture.
So, assuming that you want to extend the front fog light function when used as "AFS lights" to also illuminate when the high-beam lights are switched-ON, there are 2 x options as follows: - "normal" high-beam - the stalk on the steering column is pushed towards the windshield
- "flash" high-beam - the stalk on the steering column is pulled towards to driver
For "normal" high-beam - do this (read Note: before making changes):
Leuchte12NL LB45- Lichtfunktion G 12 > Fernlicht links (nicht aktiv)
- Dimmwert GH 12 > 100
- Dimming Direction GH 12 > maximize
Leuchte13NL RB5- Lichtfunktion G 13 > Fernlicht rechts (nicht aktiv)
- Dimmwert GH 13 > 100
- Dimming Direction GH 13 > maximize
To add "flash" high-beam - do this:
Leuchte12NL LB45- Lichtfunktion H 12 > Lichthupe generell (nicht aktiv)
Leuchte13NL RB5- Lichtfunktion H 13 > Lichthupe generell (nicht aktiv)
Note: - The bracketed values above should be the existing settings.
- Do NOT make changes if the existing setting for the Lichtfunktion channels above are NOT nicht aktiv.
- For front fog lights that have LED type lamps - Dimmwert GH > 127
Don
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