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Post by zappat on Feb 17, 2022 3:42:11 GMT
I just got a new Golf R and I am loving. However I use the car on my day by day and it’s change to Sport Mode every time that I start the car. The heavy steering and hard suspension is not the best option for a daily car.
Unfortunately there is no option to set the default start mode or even start on the last mode selected.
I would like to know if there is any option on OBDEleven that allow me to set the comfort as my default mode.
Thank you
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Post by vwninja on Feb 18, 2022 22:15:29 GMT
It should remember the mode between engine off...
My gti does.
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Post by zappat on Feb 18, 2022 23:42:59 GMT
The R does not remember!!! 🤦♂️
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Post by dwj22 on Feb 19, 2022 21:37:13 GMT
My R doesn’t either
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Post by zappat on Feb 20, 2022 15:16:11 GMT
If you agree and can help me, please send an email to Mayra C. at vwcustomercare@vw.com asking for a software update to allow us to set that. I believe it is getting hot and they will be looking into it.
Really appreciate.
Tks
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Post by fsunatureboy on Jun 3, 2022 17:07:30 GMT
I can confirm it does not reset to Comfort mode when you restart the car. My Golf R MK8 is 3 days old and while I don’t mind the Race mode for certain days and situations, I agree that the default should be Comfort mode, nor are we able to change. I’ll send an email as well. Thanks for the info.
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Post by khan2040 on Jun 13, 2022 18:22:00 GMT
Is there a how to guide on coding this in anywhere?
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Post by vwguy on Jun 28, 2022 0:43:00 GMT
Hi any update on this? Can it be coded?
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Post by newty on Jun 29, 2022 5:41:29 GMT
Nothing here. Solutions for the Golf 7 actually popped 2 years ago and needed a lot of knowledge and software (modification of gateway datasets), so I would assume we also need to be patient here.
Just some background information: European emission testing and certifcations are mandating that the car is tested in the following manner:
* The car needs to be started from a complete disengagement (bus sleep). The test drivers only does the very minimum to start driving (engine on, release parking brake, select gear), no swichting of profile or enabling functions is allowed.
* The car must start in a driving profile / state which can be achieved from all factory cars. This profile needs to be loaded at every cycle. This prevents the manufacturer from turning in a car with an optional eco-mode for testing, but delivering cars without it, but with the eco-certification. Of course, this can be done, but then both cars need to be tested separately.
* The conclusion (which I personally dont like) is that the car remembers some parts of the driving profile which are irrelevant for emission testing, but resets everything else.
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Post by ericp on Jun 29, 2022 14:17:58 GMT
The conclusion (which I personally dont like) is that the car remembers some parts of the driving profile which are irrelevant for emission testing, but resets everything else. I was wondering if it was to reset the exhaust flappers to closed so that the default startup/driving volume would fit within regulations.. but makes sense it would be emissions as well! Dang. Maybe one day! Luckily if I can at least get the Soundaktor disabled (thanks for your help in the other thread) then I won't feel so compelled to immediately switch modes, though I would be missing out on better exhaust sound and my other settings. |
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Post by vwguy on Jun 30, 2022 14:53:57 GMT
Nothing here. Solutions for the Golf 7 actually popped 2 years ago and needed a lot of knowledge and software (modification of gateway datasets), so I would assume we also need to be patient here. Just some background information: European emission testing and certifcations are mandating that the car is tested in the following manner: * The car needs to be started from a complete disengagement (bus sleep). The test drivers only does the very minimum to start driving (engine on, release parking brake, select gear), no swichting of profile or enabling functions is allowed. * The car must start in a driving profile / state which can be achieved from all factory cars. This profile needs to be loaded at every cycle. This prevents the manufacturer from turning in a car with an optional eco-mode for testing, but delivering cars without it, but with the eco-certification. Of course, this can be done, but then both cars need to be tested separately. * The conclusion (which I personally dont like) is that the car remembers some parts of the driving profile which are irrelevant for emission testing, but resets everything else. Dang that's a shame. Would another tactic be to look if the start up mode can be changed? It won't remember the last mode, but you could at least set it to your preferred option then. I imagine this must be possible somehow as most Golfs start in comfort mode, but the R starts in sport mode. It must be some kind of configurable setting somewhere? Thank you  |
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Post by newty on Jun 30, 2022 16:25:54 GMT
No chance. Having any menu avaliable which permanently changes the emissions of the car you will fail european testing and classification.
It is all in the datasets, which are not documented and delivered as they are. And I also think they did a nasty trick with sporty Golfs: They renamend Comfort to be Sport and therefore made Sport the Race option. So applying that dataset will maybe changes names, but thats it.
Edit: After thinking about it, the trick is not nasty, but actually genius
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Post by vwguy on Jun 30, 2022 20:21:03 GMT
Oh that's weird! So basically norma Golfs it's Eco, Comfort and Sport but on the R it's Comfort, Sport and Race? So same but different names That is a crafty way of getting around the regs I suppose haha. I mainly wanted the mode changes so I can keep the DCC to the soft setting, not that bothered about anything else, but the roads are so bad where I live that it needs to be in the soft mode all the time 😂 It is a shame you can't set it to remember individual mode each time, to have the perfect set up every time, but that is the rules these days I guess  |
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Post by newty on Jul 1, 2022 6:18:37 GMT
Practically yes. If I remeber correctly it would be Eco, Sport(Comfort) and Race(Sport). Plus the Special mode where applicable ("Nürburgring").
What you are describing is interesting. My plain unsporty Golf remembers the selected driving mode, but resets the Engine and DSG settings to "Normal" aka. Comfort. All other settings are kept, so is the Profile indicator.
Regarding rough roads: I found that the DCC trimming for rough roads is more delicate than just slamming it to Comfort for his - I end up with a little sportier trim than "Average". Generally, with a more Comfort trim you are allowing the car to make more spring-damper interactions, which does not feel well to me. Going full comfort works well for the one in a while bumps on motorways, smoothly swinging them out. I think there is a video with Benny Leuchter explaining how they engineered the "Nürburgring"-Mode - they actually softened it for that track.
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Post by vwguy on Jul 7, 2022 23:09:37 GMT
Yeah you are probably right there. I tried it in the softest mode and it can cause a bit too much body roll even at normal driving speeds. I guess sport on the R is a balance for daily life. It is just a shame VW don't give us a little bit of control over defaults, I understand the reasoning for emissions but not for non-emission settings  Speaking of the nurburgring mode, do you know if it's possible to code the drift and nurburgring modes into cars that didn't come with the performance pack? I actually didn't get the performance pack as I prefer the car without the extra spoiler, but I do want to drift it on the next track day 😂 Thank you for your help |
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Post by peptor on Feb 4, 2023 17:44:43 GMT
I just purchased a 2023 Golf R 20th anniversary this past Tuesday and the Drive mode still defaults to Sport mode. So no updates yet. I have another question for the forum and it is on the engine cover. My car came with no cover at all. The dealer said they all come like that. I am not buying his answer because the engine points to attach the cover are still
there. Can someone shed some light on what is going on with this cover? Thanks
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Post by kimi17147 on Feb 4, 2023 20:09:52 GMT
There was a recall on them in 2022 because they could come off and lay on top of the turbo and cause a fire. There is apparently a new design coming from VW and they will let you know when it’s ready. If you are impatient there are aftermarket options.
So yes they did tell you the truth
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Post by ch47av8r on Feb 5, 2023 22:05:57 GMT
I just purchased a 2023 Golf R 20th anniversary this past Tuesday and the Drive mode still defaults to Sport mode. So no updates yet. I have another question for the forum and it is on the engine cover. My car came with no cover at all. The dealer said they all come like that. I am not buying his answer because the engine points to attach the cover are still there. Can someone shed some light on what is going on with this cover? Thanks OBDeleven can't code engine covers. 😏 |
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Post by ballerkalle on Feb 13, 2023 11:43:02 GMT
All Mk8 come with no engine cover at this time. The first Mk8 had an engine cover that loosened during operation in some circumstances and could eventually catch fire. So they removed all Engine covers.
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Post by jacksontouran on May 30, 2023 17:07:24 GMT
If you agree and can help me, please send an email to Mayra C. at vwcustomercare@vw.com asking for a software update to allow us to set that. I believe it is getting hot and they will be looking into it. Really appreciate. Tks I can do drive mode memory if you have ODIS-E. |
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Post by zappat on May 30, 2023 17:23:16 GMT
If you agree and can help me, please send an email to Mayra C. at vwcustomercare@vw.com asking for a software update to allow us to set that. I believe it is getting hot and they will be looking into it. Really appreciate. Tks I can do drive mode memory if you have ODIS-E. Hi, what is ODIS-E? Is it like a OBDEleven? Could please you share the step by step? Thank you |
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Post by zappat on May 30, 2023 17:24:30 GMT
Nothing here. Solutions for the Golf 7 actually popped 2 years ago and needed a lot of knowledge and software (modification of gateway datasets), so I would assume we also need to be patient here. Just some background information: European emission testing and certifcations are mandating that the car is tested in the following manner: * The car needs to be started from a complete disengagement (bus sleep). The test drivers only does the very minimum to start driving (engine on, release parking brake, select gear), no swichting of profile or enabling functions is allowed. * The car must start in a driving profile / state which can be achieved from all factory cars. This profile needs to be loaded at every cycle. This prevents the manufacturer from turning in a car with an optional eco-mode for testing, but delivering cars without it, but with the eco-certification. Of course, this can be done, but then both cars need to be tested separately. * The conclusion (which I personally dont like) is that the car remembers some parts of the driving profile which are irrelevant for emission testing, but resets everything else. Thank you for the details. What I don’t understand is why the Golf GTI can remember but the R can’t |
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Post by jacksontouran on May 30, 2023 17:27:50 GMT
I can do drive mode memory if you have ODIS-E. Hi, what is ODIS-E? Is it like a OBDEleven? Could please you share the step by step? Thank you It’s an equipment that vw engineers use for car. For GTI, it looks like it’s memorized on dash but it’s not memorized everything. There are a lot of function (gears, steering, engine, acc…) for each drive mode. Some function will return to normal after restart for GTI. |
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Post by profcedar on Jun 9, 2023 18:13:42 GMT
Do you have more details on this?
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Post by mintfotog on Jun 10, 2023 3:55:03 GMT
No chance. Having any menu avaliable which permanently changes the emissions of the car you will fail european testing and classification. It is all in the datasets, which are not documented and delivered as they are. And I also think they did a nasty trick with sporty Golfs: They renamend Comfort to be Sport and therefore made Sport the Race option. So applying that dataset will maybe changes names, but thats it. Edit: After thinking about it, the trick is not nasty, but actually genius So after having a GTI with the swap codes done and going between different datasets for the different drive modes, if you use a Golf R dataset it will in fact swap everything as you’re saying. However, if you put a clubsport 45 dataset on it will give you eco comfort sport and special. BUT, the Golf Rs do not come with an Eco Drive mode so swapping to a clubsport 45 dataset will not give the eco drive as the swap code is not active in the gateway. You would need to have the swap activated for it then some CS datasets. You would also lose Drift mode using the datasets but you would get Eco. You’d also have to pay someone a lot of money IF they’ll even do 1 swap code. Most engineers that are even willing to do the swaps won’t do less than 6 swaps at once it’s just not worth it for them. |
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Post by yanxuehe7 on Sept 15, 2023 3:13:05 GMT
hi bro, i do have the odis-e, could you plz share the code/adaption details. great thanks
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Post by MartiniB on Sept 15, 2023 8:18:55 GMT
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