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Post by MK7Rob on Mar 18, 2017 16:38:04 GMT
Hey guys and gals,
Just received my OBDeleven the other day and was having trouble getting the mirror dip and windows down with key fob apps to work.
I get a "vehicle not compatible" message when trying to use these apps. I was successful with some other codes such as urban joke and removing bulb out message but am kind of disappointed these the mirror dip and key fob window control doesn't work (was kinda the whole reason I purchased the tool in the first place.
is there any long coding that would circumvent this incompatibility or has anyone had success with newer build date GTIs ??
This was a VW Mexico build, not sure if this helps.
Thanks in advance!
Rob
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on Mar 18, 2017 23:17:01 GMT
^^^^ Try this: Mirror-dip on reverse gear (MY17 mk7 only)Code Change- Select Passenger Door Electronics Passenger Side module @ address hex52
- Select coding
- Scroll down the list and select mirror_lowering_with_rear_gear (this is Byte 4, Bit 2). Change setting to active
- Select the next entry which is position_memory_with_rear_gear (this is Byte 4, Bit 3). Change setting to active
Adaptation Channel Change - Select Central electrics module @ address hex09
- Select Security access
- Enter the magic number 31347
- Select adaptation
- Search for Spiegelverstellung
- Select Menuesteuerung Spiegelabsenkung and change setting to active (this places a software switch into the MENU screen for reverse mirror dip)
- Select Spiegelabsenkung bei Rueckwaertsfahrt and change to active
Make sure that the newly placed software switch in the MENU is ticked and that the mirror knob on the driver's door is pointing to the passenger side mirror (i.e. "L" for RHD and "R" for LHD)
As I have indicated in a number of previous posts, to have mirror dip on reverse operate correctly (100% of the time), your car needs to have a memory module installed in the mirror (the car uses the memory module to remember the X & Y coordinates of the original mirror position on return). This is how to find-out if the memory module is installed on your car:
Don
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Post by GTIRob on Mar 18, 2017 23:19:39 GMT
Not sure what I'm supposed to try... looks like post got cut off |
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on Mar 18, 2017 23:47:40 GMT
^^^ you were too quick - fixed now!
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Post by RobGTI on Mar 19, 2017 14:30:06 GMT
^^^ you were too quick - fixed now! Don, Any chance there is a way to Iong code FOB window control, was successful doing this yesterday on a 2016 Jetta 1.8t (North America) Rob |
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on Mar 20, 2017 2:32:58 GMT
^^^ you were too quick - fixed now! Don, Any chance there is a way to Iong code FOB window control, was successful doing this yesterday on a 2016 Jetta 1.8t (North America) Rob Rob: Bit of an educated guess, but try this:
FOB - Windows control (for MY17 models only)
- Select Central electrics module @ address hex09
- Select security access
- Enter magic number 31347
- Select adaptation
- Search for ZV Komfort
- Select Comfort Closing -set to active
- Select funk komfort oeffnen -set to active (Note: there are two adaptation channels with this descriptor - this channel is the lower case one)
- Select Funk Komfort schliessen - set to active
- Select Funk Komfort oeffnen -set to active (Note: this is the upper case channel - see step VII.)
- Select Menuesteuerung Komfortbedienung einstellbar - set to adjustable
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Post by RobGTI on Apr 3, 2017 15:38:12 GMT
Don,
Long coding worked thanks !
Rob
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Post by RobGTI on Apr 3, 2017 15:38:26 GMT
Don,
Long coding worked thanks !
Rob
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Post by RobGTI on Apr 3, 2017 15:54:47 GMT
^^^ you were too quick - fixed now! Works! |
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Post by desertgti on Sept 17, 2017 13:00:15 GMT
I only had one funk komfort oeffnen but it still worked.
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Post by snowj720 on Sept 23, 2018 16:50:10 GMT
Without mirror memory I'm assuming that the mirror will not return to original x y position? Will it dip in R but not return unless done so manually?
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Post by ofektal8 on Sept 23, 2018 19:49:54 GMT
Without mirror memory I'm assuming that the mirror will not return to original x y position? Will it dip in R but not return unless done so manually? It Will but will not come back to the exact place, In mine It Is actually off by quite a bit |
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Post by snowj720 on Sept 23, 2018 20:00:42 GMT
Without mirror memory I'm assuming that the mirror will not return to original x y position? Will it dip in R but not return unless done so manually? It Will but will not come back to the exact place, In mine It Is actually off by quite a bit Bummer. Well, I guess I can give it a shot and if it annoys me too much just uncheck it from the touchscreen. |
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Post by snowj720 on Sept 24, 2018 0:09:42 GMT
I did get this to work via the info provided by Don (thank you sir, you are the obd master). I did notice that with my Alltrack I also had to go to another section of the long coding in the PS door electronics (if I remember correctly) as well. There were two values (in English) that were related to the dip. They were both the values Don mentioned but in plain English that needed to be set to active. Once I applied those the dip worked. I also followed the instruction of turning the mirror adjustment knob to Right (in accessory mode), then going into reverse. Then I put it back into Park and turned the mirror knob back to the neutral position (between R and L) and the mirror returned to my position. Hopefully this holds and returns Everytime. Fingers crossed.
I'll go back to find those additional values to confirm what additional values I changed.
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Post by snowj720 on Sept 24, 2018 2:37:26 GMT
Just realized, I have to turn the mirror adjustment knob to my PS window prior to going into reverse to get dip then back to neutral position to get return. So far return has worked 4 out of 4 tries.
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Post by ofektal8 on Sept 24, 2018 11:35:21 GMT
Just realized, I have to turn the mirror adjustment knob to my PS window prior to going into reverse to get dip then back to neutral position to get return. So far return has worked 4 out of 4 tries. You can leave it on the PS Mirror, once you start driving it will go back to place. |
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Post by snowj720 on Sept 24, 2018 20:33:35 GMT
Just realized, I have to turn the mirror adjustment knob to my PS window prior to going into reverse to get dip then back to neutral position to get return. So far return has worked 4 out of 4 tries. You can leave it on the PS Mirror, once you start driving it will go back to place. Figured that out today. Thanks mate. |
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Post by pt16a4 on Oct 28, 2020 20:24:04 GMT
^^^^ Try this: Mirror-dip on reverse gear (MY17 mk7 only)Code Change- Select Passenger Door Electronics Passenger Side module @ address hex52
- Select coding
- Scroll down the list and select mirror_lowering_with_rear_gear (this is Byte 4, Bit 2). Change setting to active
- Select the next entry which is position_memory_with_rear_gear (this is Byte 4, Bit 3). Change setting to active
Adaptation Channel Change - Select Central electrics module @ address hex09
- Select Security access
- Enter the magic number 31347
- Select adaptation
- Search for Spiegelverstellung
- Select Menuesteuerung Spiegelabsenkung and change setting to active (this places a software switch into the MENU screen for reverse mirror dip)
- Select Spiegelabsenkung bei Rueckwaertsfahrt and change to active
Make sure that the newly placed software switch in the MENU is ticked and that the mirror knob on the driver's door is pointing to the passenger side mirror (i.e. "L" for RHD and "R" for LHD)
As I have indicated in a number of previous posts, to have mirror dip on reverse operate correctly (100% of the time), your car needs to have a memory module installed in the mirror (the car uses the memory module to remember the X & Y coordinates of the original mirror position on return). This is how to find-out if the memory module is installed on your car:
Hi Don, Both those long code values are set in my A4 B9, I assume a factory setting, but I do not see the 09 Adaptation menu you mentioned, nor does the mirror automatically dip. From what I have been able to see, I do not have memory mirrors, and seats are definitely not electric. Seems odd the ling coding would be set to active, without the hardware. No faults on scan either. Any ideas? |
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on Oct 28, 2020 20:49:12 GMT
pt16a4 : hmm................. the copy of my post in your reply was written in 1977 and it was a response about a mk7 which has an MQB platform. Your car is an A4 B9 which has a MLBevo platform build. Clearly both platforms share some common features (because you say that some of the software switches in long code are the same) - but it's stretching a very long bow indeed to expect the two platforms to be identical! In any event - if you don't have memory - how can the mirror return to its original position? Don
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Post by pt16a4 on Oct 29, 2020 23:36:35 GMT
Don, I appreciate that we are talking to different makes/models and platforms, however most of the coding I have seen seems to translate well.
Seems odd to me that the long coding would have values set that would suggest - literally says "mirror lowering/position memory with rear gear" - the dip function when it's not available. To your point, I don't know how it would reposition itself without memory. I have however read that it can be done without memory, but not 100% accurate in repositioning once in forward gear.
Will need to confirm the live data again to confirm.
Btw, I don't mean to dig up your old posts, but I've been learning as I go, and it's not easy to find current threads...
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Post by sergi0dj on Jan 13, 2021 14:02:17 GMT
Not sure what I'm supposed to try... looks like post got cut off Hi. According to this image, in the photo memory modules installed, there are percentages for "X" and for "Y", I suppose that "X" refers to going up or down or the "Y" to going up or down, is that right? In that case? Would it be possible to edit these values so that you can choose yourself where you want the mirror to go up, or how much do you want it to go down  |
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Post by sergi0dj on Jan 13, 2021 14:03:53 GMT
^^^^ Try this: Mirror-dip on reverse gear (MY17 mk7 only)Code Change- Select Passenger Door Electronics Passenger Side module @ address hex52
- Select coding
- Scroll down the list and select mirror_lowering_with_rear_gear (this is Byte 4, Bit 2). Change setting to active
- Select the next entry which is position_memory_with_rear_gear (this is Byte 4, Bit 3). Change setting to active
Adaptation Channel Change - Select Central electrics module @ address hex09
- Select Security access
- Enter the magic number 31347
- Select adaptation
- Search for Spiegelverstellung
- Select Menuesteuerung Spiegelabsenkung and change setting to active (this places a software switch into the MENU screen for reverse mirror dip)
- Select Spiegelabsenkung bei Rueckwaertsfahrt and change to active
Make sure that the newly placed software switch in the MENU is ticked and that the mirror knob on the driver's door is pointing to the passenger side mirror (i.e. "L" for RHD and "R" for LHD)
As I have indicated in a number of previous posts, to have mirror dip on reverse operate correctly (100% of the time), your car needs to have a memory module installed in the mirror (the car uses the memory module to remember the X & Y coordinates of the original mirror position on return). This is how to find-out if the memory module is installed on your car:
Don
I mean this image. |
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on Jan 13, 2021 19:16:33 GMT
sergi0dj : As to your first question - my understanding (intuitive guess really because none of this stuff is disclosed by VW officially) is that the X and Y coordinates refer to the axes of an imaginary graph. So, the X value refers to horizontal position and the Y value refers to the vertical position. I'm not sure, but I expect that 0% refers to the extreme mirror position referenced to the passenger side of the car.
OBD11's reporting of the X/Y value as a percentage is obviously nonsense - clearly, it's not possible for these values to have a reading greater than 100. In truth, the reported values are just decimal numbers that are translated from the original hexadecimal numbers (0-255 = 256 states, which represents the most common base unit in a digital system). VCDS reports exactly the same numbers but more correctly, it doesn't impose a % after the value!!
As to your second point - the values for X/Y are the response to a "read-request" from the live data function in OBD11. My guess is that the the read-request accesses 2 x specific address locations in the memory module to get these numbers. Again, my guess is that the "write-request" to these memory locations comes from the transducer that interprets the physical horizontal/vertical tilt of the mirror. If the memory module isn't installed, the address locations for the X/Y values don't exist, so no write-request is possible and any read-request will always return the number "255".
I imagine that it is possible to hack the module firmware to crow-bar artificial numbers for the X/Y values (by brute force) but this would require an intimate understanding of software sub-routines in the module. It's certainly NOT something that your average OBD11 user with an IQ=100 (like me) could attempt!!!
Don
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Post by pt16a4 on Apr 5, 2021 15:15:03 GMT
pt16a4 : hmm................. the copy of my post in your reply was written in 1977 and it was a response about a mk7 which has an MQB platform. Your car is an A4 B9 which has a MLBevo platform build. Clearly both platforms share some common features (because you say that some of the software switches in long code are the same) - but it's stretching a very long bow indeed to expect the two platforms to be identical! In any event - if you don't have memory - how can the mirror return to its original position? Don
] Digging this back up, I know! Not sure why, but the mirror recently started dipping when in reverse gear, returning to normal thereafter. However, I noticed that today it did not dip. To my mind, I have not activated nor deactivated anything that would explain this. That said, it clearly worked - it would appear the mirror does have memory. Will have to look at this coding again. |
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Post by pt16a4 on Apr 5, 2021 19:17:30 GMT
"mirror knob on the driver's door is pointing to the passenger side mirror"
Here is my answer.
The function has always been active, I just didn't know.
Thanks for posting the above info.
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