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Post by Nath 1991 on Dec 16, 2021 21:21:35 GMT
Hi there I was having a play around with end eleven pro on my gtd mk8 2020 and I did a few adaptations to the iq matrix headlights, but no I’ve got 2 messages come up saying auto high beam assist error and bendy light error, I’ve got no option for the auto high beam now, can only do it manually??? Any help please? ?? Cheers Nath
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Post by newty on Dec 17, 2021 20:06:52 GMT
Jep. Played around with coding of 4B, right? Generally: Do not do it, changing the coding will fry your basic settings of the automatic headlight adjustment and the Matrix LED. Been there, done that: All the fancy settings have either no effect or a negative effect. The only thing to activate is predictive route data, but even with that I am unsure to be honest.
Do you have a backup including the live data or some data inside the live data when offline? If so, search for "Matrix light, calculated offset values" and take note of left and right offsets in angular minutes. If not, you will have to go to the workshop and ask them to recalibrate, as we need these values to safely continue
Now do the following in Basic settings: * Basic Headlamp Settings followed by Acknowledge Basic settings * Matrix light, calibration, Pick Left Headlight and Right Headlight to "calibrate", start it and exit (you can ignore the axle offsets in customer mode, they are not touched by coding and basic settings) * Enter Offset calculation matrix light, set left and right headlight to calculate offset. Enter the noted offset values, take care of horizontal and vertical offsets. Golfs only have horizontal offsets. Again start it.
You should now be able to clear the 4B errors and to reenable matrix. Still, I kindly suggest to do the Basic Headlamp setting on a even surface with an emptied out car and an empty tank (as it were in factory) to make sure the automatic levelling is near its factory setting.
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Post by Nath 1991 on Dec 17, 2021 21:29:48 GMT
Okay thank you, after I’ve done it I won’t bother touching bits like that again, how do I get on to basic settings? I’ve tried 3 times and it just keeps loading so I’m the end I either cancel it or press stop, how long should it normally take to get on to basic settings? I also had to change the service to get into it aswell if that’s normal?
Cheers
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Post by newty on Dec 19, 2021 18:28:29 GMT
Correct. But as said, they have little to effect. Predictive afs even dimmed my low beam in some situations I think which was dangerous...
Basic Settings: Just Start and then Stop if they do not finish on their own. Thats it. Stick to the steps! You can do the matrix steps on their own when basic setting has finished once - relate to the faults to see if basic setting went through.
All makes sense if you have these values backed up, if not - you need professional help!
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Post by Nath 1991 on Dec 22, 2021 6:41:17 GMT
Ok thanks, would it back up automatically? As don’t think over ever backed it up
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Post by newty on Dec 27, 2021 11:30:16 GMT
Sorry for my late answer, maybe you already found a solution.
If not: Generally there will be no backup entry without actually doing one. But you can access all most recent values from the database while offline - that saved me some times. Just start the app - do not connect, select garage and your car and 4B, then live data. There is a small chance you were curious and these data has been stored for you. When doing this while connected, you will overwrite the server's database and you calibration data is lost I am afraid.
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Post by jotjot on Dec 29, 2021 14:15:56 GMT
If still need help then would backup from another 2020 Golf mk8 help you?
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Post by newty on Dec 29, 2021 22:32:57 GMT
No. It is actually calibration data from your individual car, as these values change on how the lights are manufactured internally and how the fixtures are connected the chassis. A workshop should be able to recalibrate your lights in maybe an hour. Call them before showing up, still not everybody can calibrate matrix lights.
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Post by Nath 1991 on Jan 3, 2022 22:48:06 GMT
Ok thanks, can I recalibrate them myself if I have Odis or vcds?
Cheers
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Post by newty on Jan 4, 2022 6:33:44 GMT
If you happen to own a garage which is suitable for light calibration and a modern light tester capable of matrix calibration, you can easily do it yourself.
So in short: No. And no, entering bogus values will silence the error messages but will leave you with a totally off light system.
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Post by Nath 1991 on Jan 4, 2022 8:20:23 GMT
Ok thanks, do you have any idea roughly how much vw will charge me to fix it?
Cheers
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Post by newty on Jan 4, 2022 14:46:36 GMT
Greatly depends on their hourly rates. I would assume they will need around an hour or so - at common German rates you will likely be at around 150€.
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Post by melkool on Jan 4, 2022 15:34:35 GMT
Not sure about other countries, but in Romania if you tamper with OBD, VCDS, ODIS ori any other tool your electrical warranty is "bye bye". They cancel your warranty
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Post by newty on Jan 4, 2022 21:35:15 GMT
Nobody actually talked about warranty. Of course you should not get warranty for units you fryed yourself, but generally, here in Germany they are a lot more friendly in case of unrelated errors.
Some guys here even bring their VCDS to the workshop to have proof of errors.
So yeah, maybe not tell them "I oopsed it up with OBD11" but rather "I have an error there, some smartass in the internet says you just need to calibrate the lights!"
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Post by Nath 1991 on Jan 4, 2022 22:33:59 GMT
Ok Thanks for the help, she’s booked in for the 18 jan, il tell them about the 2 error messages and say some smart guy online said about calibration and see what they say
Thanks guys
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Post by Nath 1991 on Jan 18, 2022 12:39:52 GMT
Hi, thanks for all your help, my cars all good again and all my lights are working perfectly!
thanks again
Nath
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Post by melkool on Jan 18, 2022 14:06:17 GMT
Did the dealer complained about messing with OBD11 ?
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Post by Nath 1991 on Jan 18, 2022 14:32:31 GMT
nope, went to a garage near me with odis, told him the truth, he plugged it in let me sit with him with the windows down told me how and what i did wrong so i know for next time, he then showed me what and how he was doing it and fixed all of it, and he only charged me the price he paid to go online to sort it, it took him around 2 hours and job done
i got lucky
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Post by arandax on Jul 17, 2022 8:33:23 GMT
What is the right procedure to calibrate the matrix high beam? I messed with 4B high beam values, turned value back to original and however got Audi adaptive light errors. (My car is S3 8Y with matrix). I've done the matrix basic settings but I assume that this command need to be done in some kind of specific conditions (e.g. with car far from a wall X meters etc..). After High beam basic regulation, audi adaptive light errors are gone and auto HBA feature is working now.
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Post by mintfotog on Jul 23, 2022 5:36:42 GMT
Do you happen to have a scan of all of your adaptation and long coding for the module?
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Post by djmartzian on Feb 13, 2023 17:45:53 GMT
Do you have a backup including the live data or some data inside the live data when offline? If so, search for "Matrix light, calculated offset values" and take note of left and right offsets in angular minutes. Hello, I would like to create and to keep a record of the default values "just in case" I'll play around and unintentionally messed something up. So, I've took a look on my 4B backup from couple of days ago and all the offset values are set to 0. Is this because I did the backup during the day and the headlights were turned off? What is it the proper procedure to backup those values? Thank you
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Post by djmartzian on Feb 15, 2023 8:16:22 GMT
Is this because I did the backup during the day and the headlights were turned off? Update on the above: I've did a new Backup in this evening with headlights/Low Beam ON. The same apply, all offset values are set to 0. I've also checked other parameters, data/values have been recorded for them.
Any advises will be highly appreciated!
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Post by peppino84 on Nov 9, 2023 21:12:53 GMT
If you happen to own a garage which is suitable for light calibration and a modern light tester capable of matrix calibration, you can easily do it yourself. So in short: No. And no, entering bogus values will silence the error messages but will leave you with a totally off light system. hi, what do you mean by "a totally off light system" I had a similar problem the other day I did all the basic adjustments, the errors went out, the offsets are all at zero and the matrix system works perfectly as before. I do not know what you mean
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Post by newty on Nov 10, 2023 6:57:34 GMT
The system is not self calibrating, has no feedback loops. The light system is blind to itself, so there it is setting light scenes, but has no verification of the outcome.
So either you are incredibly lucky or your matrix and level control is shifted.
I can speak from m experience that most oncoming traffic is tolerating being flashed and blinded to some extend, but slighty blinding them is still not an option in my opinion.
In case of the level control, your lights are either too high or to low. So either you blind people or your system could perform better.
Matrix will also dim the segments too early on one side and too late on the other, also blinding oncoming traffic to a certain degree. We are speaking about calibration to be exact up to 0,017° (saved in angular minutes). This sounds incredibly accurate - but with a range of ~150m the effect of some centidegree is quite large
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Post by peppino84 on Nov 10, 2023 11:42:16 GMT
for now no one dazzled me to warn me. the matrices seem to work normally. From what you say, the only way to verify that the calibration is correct is to go to the workshop. but this means that it is imperceptible to the naked eye. If you know another way to understand if the headlights are not calibrated, could you tell us?
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Post by newty on Nov 10, 2023 19:12:16 GMT
I have nothing to add here. Either you are doing it right or just fiddle and tamper around until all warning lamps are gone and you think all is fine.
I will not change my opinion on this. Never had oncoming traffic and tought "oh thats extraordinary bright, but not so bright I will flash back!" - you probably look like that now for other users.
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Post by peppino84 on Nov 11, 2023 18:47:00 GMT
I have nothing to add here. Either you are doing it right or just fiddle and tamper around until all warning lamps are gone and you think all is fine. I will not change my opinion on this. Never had oncoming traffic and tought "oh thats extraordinary bright, but not so bright I will flash back!" - you probably look like that now for other users. ok but I would like to understand something. in some posts you say to look at "matrix light, calculated offset value" and in others you say to look at "actual angle of ref. segments", well in my live data the values are different. Which ones should I enter when calibrating? not to mention that when I did the basic setting to turn off the errors I didn't select the calibration on the headlights and left "do not calibrate" on, which means it didn't bring them back to 0, in fact the live data online is the same because today I checked . according to your idea I should have found them at 0 after the basic setting, is that correct?
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Post by philld on Nov 23, 2023 19:56:07 GMT
Jep. Played around with coding of 4B, right? Generally: Do not do it, changing the coding will fry your basic settings of the automatic headlight adjustment and the Matrix LED. Been there, done that: All the fancy settings have either no effect or a negative effect. The only thing to activate is predictive route data, but even with that I am unsure to be honest. Do you have a backup including the live data or some data inside the live data when offline? If so, search for "Matrix light, calculated offset values" and take note of left and right offsets in angular minutes. If not, you will have to go to the workshop and ask them to recalibrate, as we need these values to safely continueNow do the following in Basic settings: * Basic Headlamp Settings followed by Acknowledge Basic settings * Matrix light, calibration, Pick Left Headlight and Right Headlight to "calibrate", start it and exit (you can ignore the axle offsets in customer mode, they are not touched by coding and basic settings) * Enter Offset calculation matrix light, set left and right headlight to calculate offset. Enter the noted offset values, take care of horizontal and vertical offsets. Golfs only have horizontal offsets. Again start it. You should now be able to clear the 4B errors and to reenable matrix. Still, I kindly suggest to do the Basic Headlamp setting on a even surface with an emptied out car and an empty tank (as it were in factory) to make sure the automatic levelling is near its factory setting. I do seem to remember that certain adaptations are OK?
Coding =/ Adaptations, right?
For example the adaptations for the Presentation mode lights does not interefere with the matrix settings.
I've coded mine on and off again (presentation mode) and there's nothing wrong with my matrix lights, they still work just as well as they did from the factory.
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Post by newty on Nov 24, 2023 6:52:51 GMT
Adaptions are fine. Do not touch the Long Coding.
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