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Post by kamirage on Jul 10, 2021 18:07:43 GMT
Hi everyone.
I use some apps for the lights of my 2018 Alltrack (im from canada)
It works great when lights are turn off but as soon as the auto lights are on, the rear blinkers don’t work anymore. I wonder if anyone had the same issue or someone have a solution.
I tried to uninstal few light app, nothing... I tried urbanjoke v1 and v2 but nothing worked (error message every time).
I think that maybe there is a conflict with the mods. I have OBDeleven pro but ido not use long coding.
Hope someone can help! It’s annoying to not have rear turn signal.
Thanks !
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on Jul 10, 2021 22:04:19 GMT
kamirage : what type of rear turn signal lamps are installed in the car - LED, or incandescent? Take screenshots of Leuchte18BLK HLA60 and Leuchte19BLK HRC31 (these are adaptation channels in the central electrics module) and post pictures here Don
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Post by kamirage on Jul 11, 2021 6:24:29 GMT
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on Jul 11, 2021 19:04:52 GMT
kamirage :those 2 x Leuchte-sets are disabled, Were the LED tail lights on your car factory fitted- or were they retrofitted?
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Post by kamirage on Jul 12, 2021 3:43:05 GMT
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on Jul 13, 2021 0:37:32 GMT
kamirage : hmm..... what I see is 2 x Leuchte-sets that are factory assigned to the turn-signal function on OEM factory tails - that are disabled.
This is not unusual in North American Region models that have factory fitted with incandescent tails - because Yankee cars also use the brake light lamp for the turn signal function. But it is unusual on NAR models that are factory fitted with LED tails.
Hence my question.
But you response explains my confusion. I suspect that this means on your car the retrofitted LED tails were installed using a cross-wiring harness - which complicates stuff!!.
The basic problem when retrofitting LED tails on a car which was factory fitted with incandescent tails is that the new LED fittings have more lamps - therefore, there are not enough wires in the car loom to switch on/off these extra lamps.
The non-OEM method that is used to solve this problem is to join together like-function lamps on the left and right side of the car that previously had their own separate wires. This happens on the Brake light and on the Parking Light lamps. Joining together the left and right side lamps frees-up wires that can then be used to control the extra lamps in the new fittings.
As part of the wire reassignment exercise, there must also be a re-assignment to the factory Leuchte-sets. A cross wiring harness is used to do the physical wire reassignment. Problem is that each manufacturer's harness is different - and since this is non OEM, it's anyone's guess how the wires are now connected to your new fittings!!
So- if you still want to proceed, you will need to do further investigations. You need to find the Leuchte-sets on the left and right side of the car that were re-assigned to the turn-signal lamps as part of the retrofit exercise. To do this, you will need to search the Leuchte-sets on your car for the setting Blinken links Hellphase (this is the Leuchte-command for the left-side turn-signal) and Blinken rechts Hellphase (right-side turn-signal)
I suggest that you look in the following Leuchte-sets: Leuchte20BR LA71 Leuchte21BR RC8
Leuchte23SL HLC10 Leuchte24SL HRA65
Leuchte25KZL HA59 Leuchte26NSL LA72
Leuchte28RFL LC11 Leuchte29RFL RA64
When you find the 2 x Leuchte-sets, post-up screen-shots of ALL 19 x channels in each set
Don
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Post by kamirage on Jul 14, 2021 3:04:56 GMT
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Post by kamirage on Jul 14, 2021 3:36:44 GMT
Each time i use turn signal my third brake light turn on and it goes off after i stop flashing… i try to put off or original for (OBDeleven)apps that use any lights at the back but nothing works.
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on Jul 14, 2021 22:40:04 GMT
@ kamirage :hmm........ mighty odd Leuchte programming in those Leuchte-sets try this:- Leuchte23SL HLC10 Lichtfunktion A 23 > Blinken links Hellphase Lichtfunktion B 23 > not active Dimmwert AB 23 > 127 Lichtansteuerung HD AB 23 > always Lichtfunktion C 23 > nicht aktiv Lichtfunktion D 23 > nicht aktiv Dimmwert CD 23 > 0 Dimming Direction CD 23 > maximize Lichtfunktion E 23 > nicht aktiv Lichtfunktion F 23 > nicht aktiv Dimmwert EF 23 > 0 Dimming Direction EF 23 > maximize Lichtfunktion G 23 > nicht aktiv Lichtfunktion H 23 > nicht aktiv Dimmwert GH 23 > 0 Dimming Direction GH 23 > maximize
Leuchte24SL HRA65 Lichtfunktion A 24 > Blinken rechts Hellphase Lichtfunktion B 24 > not active Dimmwert AB 24 > 127 Lichtansteuerung HD AB 24 > always Lichtfunktion C 24 > nicht aktiv Lichtfunktion D 24 > nicht aktiv Dimmwert CD 24 > 0 Dimming Direction CD 24 > maximize Lichtfunktion E 24 > nicht aktiv Lichtfunktion F 24 > nicht aktiv Dimmwert EF 24 > 0 Dimming Direction EF 24 > maximize Lichtfunktion G 24 > nicht aktiv Lichtfunktion H 24 > nicht aktiv Dimmwert GH 24 > 0 Dimming Direction GH 24 > maximize
Don
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Post by marcusst12 on Jul 28, 2021 20:39:16 GMT
What about Leuchte22br codes? Is that not the 3rd brake light code?
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on Jul 28, 2021 23:59:05 GMT
marcusst12: Yes indeed - you are correct!!! But I was dealing with the turn-signal lamps first in OP attachment first - which just look odd!! Don
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Post by marcusst12 on Jul 29, 2021 13:02:41 GMT
Ok. Sorry for quoting your post. Newbee mistake. I tried your coding and my 3rd brake light still is on when my turn signal is on. I will go thru my history to try and identify the mistake and reverse it. Thanks for your help
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Post by brann on Aug 1, 2021 6:02:57 GMT
kamirage : what type of rear turn signal lamps are installed in the car - LED, or incandescent? Take screenshots of Leuchte18BLK HLA60 and Leuchte19BLK HRC31 (these are adaptation channels in the central electrics module) and post pictures here Don Can you help me out also? I used the urban joke V2 for the US cars and I am having the same problem, I tried reverting back to default with no luck. I have an USA 2019 GTI Autobahn edition Here is photos of the same two adaption channels imgur.com/a/0gVLgcd Photos of Leuchte23SL HLC10 and Leuchte24SL HRA65 imgur.com/a/MYSkAqZThanks
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on Aug 1, 2021 22:53:40 GMT
brann: hmm........ you will need to tell me exactly what the problem is with your rear tails and post-up Leuchte20BR LA71 & Leuchte21BR RC8 settings Don
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Post by brann on Aug 2, 2021 2:11:25 GMT
I am having the same problem as he is, my turn signals only flash when my lights are turned off and when they flash both the inside(boot) and outside flash at the same time. If the light is switched to any other option (auto/on) the rear tail lights are just on and will not flash with the turn signal. Here is those two modules: imgur.com/a/xE1ZHE5
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on Aug 2, 2021 8:44:58 GMT
brann: According to my reading of your Leuchte-set values as per the pics that you posted, the inside (boot) lights should behave as you say, but the outside lights should only operate as brake lights. Please confirm how the outer (brake) lights operate Don
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Post by brann on Aug 3, 2021 2:41:24 GMT
Alright just did a test of it. Boot brake lights never go in during tests. When I say lower I mean the brake lights and when I say upper I mean the turn signal lights.
With the lights set to off: Works as it should During Braking: The lower outside brake lights are on, lower boot lights are off | Upper lights off Turn Signal: Both upper boot and upper outside flash on and off Turn Signal and braking: Both upper boot and upper outside flash on and off; lower outer brake light stays on entire time
With the lights set to auto/on: During Braking: The lower outside brake lights are on, lower boot lights are off | Upper boot and outside lights are on Turn Signal: Both upper boot and upper outside lights stay on and do not flash; Both sides of car stay on Turn Signal and braking: Both upper boot and upper outside lights stay on and do not flash; Both sides of car stay on; lower outer brake light stays on entire time
Hopefully that is clear to you, if not I can post a video to you
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on Aug 3, 2021 22:10:00 GMT
brann : yes I understand, but I just don't see how the Leuchte-sets that you have provided can make the lamps behave as you describe.
For example, Leuchte20BR LA71 & Leuchte21BR RC8 appear to be "the lower outside brake lights" - These Leuchte-sets are ONLY programmed as brake lights - nothing else (see the values in your pictures).
So if the "lower outer brake light stays on entire time" as you say for the "AUTO" position, then it's happening because of something else in the central electrics module
What Apps did you install (maybe Scandinavian DRLs)?
Don
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Post by brann on Aug 4, 2021 1:24:52 GMT
When I say the brake light stays on with the turn signal I am holding the brake down the entire time. I took a video I will DM it to you.
Is there just a way to reset the entire module or everything at this point?
I have installed the boot lights to turn on when hatch is open, comfort blinkers from 3 to 4 and the urban joke v2. I set the urban joke v2 back to normal, there is a decent handful of other stuff but none that touch the lights
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Post by brann on Aug 4, 2021 22:31:14 GMT
I fixed my problem, the urban joke V2 messed it up from the start changing the value from on to original did not seem to fix it. Changing it from original to off seemed to have set it back to normal.
Thanks for your help and taking a look. Hopefully helps someone out in the future and maybe they can release apps that work correctly for how much points costs….
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Post by mk7gti15 on Jun 22, 2022 1:12:17 GMT
I’m having an issue with my right turn signal and taillight. i tried using the dv52 taillight modification on obdeleven and now it’s not letting me change it back to original at all and my right turn signal only works when my foots on the brake. did i screw up bad?
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Post by mk7gti15 on Jun 22, 2022 1:58:07 GMT
as well as it’s just coming up as unknown and then error when. i try to change the setting back
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