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blaqsheep
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Replica Headlight Parking Light Apr 19, 2021 17:39:07 GMT

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Post by blaqsheep on Apr 19, 2021 17:39:07 GMT

Some strange behaviour from this plug-and-play replica headlight I installed recently.

Car originally is NAR 2018 GTI with halogen headlights. Now with replica headlights with LED low and high beam, and dynamic turn signal.

Issue: With car off but accessory on and with the light switch is set to parking lights, the DRL is at 100% light intensity but flashes on and off, alternating between left and right.

Leuchte2SL VLB10
            Lasttyp 2: 4 - LED Tagfahrlichtmodul Signal
            Lampendefektbitposition 2: 48
            Fehlerort mittleres Byte DTC-DFCC 2: 4a
            Lichtfunktion A 2: Tagfahrlicht
            Lichtfunktion B 2: nicht aktiv
            Dimmwert AB 2: 100
            Lichtansteuerung HD AB 2: always
            Lichtfunktion C 2: Blinken links aktiv (beide Phasen)
            Lichtfunktion D 2: Nebellicht links
            Dimmwert CD 2: 28
            Dimming Direction CD 2: minimize
            Lichtfunktion E 2: Standlicht allgemein (Schlusslicht, Positionslicht, Begrenzungslicht)
            Lichtfunktion F 2: Parklicht links (beidseitiges Parklicht aktiviert li & re)
            Dimmwert EF 2: 28
            Dimming Direction EF 2: maximize 
            Lichtfunktion G 2: nicht aktiv
            Lichtfunktion H 2: nicht aktiv
            Dimmwert GH 2: 0
            Dimming Direction GH 2: maximize

Leuchte3SL VRB21
            Lasttyp 3: 4 - LED Tagfahrlichtmodul Signal
            Lampendefektbitposition 3: 4c
            Fehlerort mittleres Byte DTC-DFCC 3: 4c
            Lichtfunktion A 3: Tagfahrlicht
            Lichtfunktion B 3: nicht aktiv
            Dimmwert AB 3: 100
            Lichtansteuerung HD AB 3: always
            Lichtfunktion C 3: Blinken rechts aktiv (beide Phasen)
            Lichtfunktion D 3: Nebellicht rechts
            Dimmwert CD 3: 28
            Dimming Direction CD 3: minimize
            Lichtfunktion E 3: Standlicht allgemein (Schlusslicht, Positionslicht, Begrenzungslicht)
            Lichtfunktion F 3: Parklicht rechts
            Dimmwert EF 3: 28
            Dimming Direction EF 3: maximize
            Lichtfunktion G 3: nicht aktiv
            Lichtfunktion H 3: nicht aktiv
            Dimmwert GH 3: 0
            Dimming Direction GH 3: maximize
        
Leuchte4TFL LB4
            Lasttyp 4: 1 - LED Tagfahrlichtmodul Versorgung
            Lampendefektbitposition 4: 3a
            Fehlerort mittleres Byte DTC-DFCC 4: 49
            Lichtfunktion A 4: Tagfahrlicht
            Lichtfunktion B 4: nicht aktiv
            Dimmwert AB 4: 127
            Lichtansteuerung HD AB 4: always
            Lichtfunktion C 4: Blinken links aktiv (beide Phasen)
            Lichtfunktion D 4: nicht aktiv
            Dimmwert CD 4: 0
            Dimming Direction CD 4: minimize
            Lichtfunktion E 4: Standlicht allgemein (Schlusslicht, Positionslicht, Begrenzungslicht)
            Lichtfunktion F 4: Parklicht links (beidseitiges Parklicht aktiviert li & re)
            Dimmwert EF 4: 127
            Dimming Direction EF 4: maximize
            Lichtfunktion G 4: nicht aktiv
            Lichtfunktion H 4: nicht aktiv
            Dimmwert GH 4: 0
            Dimming Direction GH 4: maximize

        
Leuchte5 TFL RB32
            Lasttyp 5: 1 - LED Tagfahrlichtmodul Versorgung
            Lampendefektbitposition 5: 44
            Fehlerort mittleres Byte DTC-DFCC 5: 4b
            Lichtfunktion A 5: Tagfahrlicht
            Lichtfunktion B 5: nicht aktiv
            Dimmwert AB 5: 127
            Lichtansteuerung HD AB 5: always
            Lichtfunktion C 5: Blinken rechts aktiv (beide Phasen)
            Lichtfunktion D 5: nicht aktiv
            Dimmwert CD 5: 0
            Dimming Direction CD 5: minimize
            Lichtfunktion E 5: Standlicht allgemein (Schlusslicht, Positionslicht, Begrenzungslicht)
            Lichtfunktion F 5: Parklicht rechts
            Dimmwert EF 5: 127
            Dimming Direction EF 5: maximize
            Lichtfunktion G 5: nicht aktiv
            Lichtfunktion H 5: nicht aktiv
            Dimmwert GH 5: 0
            Dimming Direction GH 5: maximize

Last Edit: Apr 19, 2021 17:41:28 GMT by blaqsheep

dv52 (Australia)
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Replica Headlight Parking Light Apr 20, 2021 20:41:26 GMT

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Post by dv52 (Australia) on Apr 20, 2021 20:41:26 GMT

hmm..........plug and play? What you mean by this term? P&P is a grossly overused term - means different things to different people!

Did you make any wiring changes on the car loom for this retrofit?

I'm not sure about NAR models (don't see many North America Region cars down here)- but if the car was factory built with halogen headlights, the pins on the central electrics module for Leuchte2SL VLB10 and Leuchte3SL VRB21 normally are not wired (and in many cases, these pins are absent on the module housing).

Plus, the headlight connector on halogen built cars has 10 x pins and the headlight connector on non-halogen built cars has 14 x pins - how did you manage this difference on your project?

Again, NAR models might be different (I suspect they aren't), but the factory settings for the 4 x Leuchte-sets in your post are different from those in your post. Why did you use these settings?

Don

Last Edit: Apr 20, 2021 20:43:32 GMT by dv52 (Australia)

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blaqsheep
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Replica Headlight Parking Light Apr 20, 2021 21:18:34 GMT

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Post by blaqsheep on Apr 20, 2021 21:18:34 GMT

Plug and play as in, what they claim. But this is never the case, as you've said in your posts in the past

No changes to the loom, it's using the factory 10-pin connector. I previously had another set of replica headlights which gave me some error message and error codes until changed bulb type to Xenon, I don't recall coding any other adaptations. My original headlights were the facelifted 7.5 halogen headlights with the low-line LED DRL.

Below is the pin diagram for the replica headlights.

Last Edit: Apr 20, 2021 21:27:46 GMT by blaqsheep

blaqsheep
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Replica Headlight Parking Light Apr 20, 2021 22:02:52 GMT

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Post by blaqsheep on Apr 20, 2021 22:02:52 GMT

To clarify, with car off but accessory on - the 100% intensity DRL when switched to parking lights, flashes in 1 second intervals.

When the car is completely off, the DRL is slightly dimmed when parking lights are activated (this seems like normal behaviour).

In day to day use, it's unlikely the car will have the key in, with light switch set to parking lights. If anything it acts as a reminder that hey, your key is still in the ignition! But still strange behaviour I didn't experience with the other set of headlights.

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Replica Headlight Parking Light Apr 21, 2021 22:18:31 GMT

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Post by dv52 (Australia) on Apr 21, 2021 22:18:31 GMT

hmm........ OK, that's a tad confusing (to me)!! Again with the caveat that I'm not sure about NAR models, mk7/mk7.5 cars that are factory fitted with incandescent headlights (and have 10 x pin connectors) DON'T have Leuchte3SL VRB21 and Leuchte2SL VLB10 energized because there is no need to set-up a power supply for the DRLs (incandescent DRL lamps are simpler).

The connector diagram the you have shown has 2 x pins devoted to DRLs - but I suspect that this diagram is from the new headlights rather than from the car loom. I only have RoW model wiring diagrams, but they ALL show that the 10 x pin loom connector for incandescent headlights only has 1 x pin for the DRL (which supports my contention regarding the Leuchte-sets above being factory disabled).

Your 4 x Leuchte-sets are set-up for a car that is factory fitted with LED DRLs - but you say that your car was factory fitted with halogen DRLs - so clearly something was changed. However, on a car that was factory wired for incandescent DRLs, simply making coding changes to Leuchte-sets isn't sufficient - actual wiring changes also need to be made

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Replica Headlight Parking Light Apr 22, 2021 0:14:54 GMT

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Post by blaqsheep on Apr 22, 2021 0:14:54 GMT

Yes, it has LED DRL from the factory as seen in the picture below. In any case, after some tweaking I found that changing the Dimmwert AB 2 & AB 3 settings to 85 (from 100) helped eliminate the sequential on/off flashing. Would be nice to get full brightness of 100 without the flashing - however this seems to happen only with the car off?

Last Edit: Apr 22, 2021 0:15:41 GMT by blaqsheep

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