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Post by eli0073 on Dec 11, 2020 4:30:41 GMT
I was unlocking via OBDEleven the Ambient lights Menu on the MMI to activate the foot well lights as I was getting ready to do the retrofit. As I have previously done the necessary coding and done Puddle lights retrofit and ambient lights in the door buckets this one are wired to the door window switch. I did all the activation reset the MMI and menu appear. I followed the guide on this thread: www.audi-sport.net/xf/threads/a3-8v-removing-j519-t46b-in-attempt-to-install-footwell-and-cupholder-lights.276625/However two things happen, my dimmer switch on the dash does not work properly it doesn't lower the intensity during the day, only at night when the auto lights turn on, is when it works and my car is not getting any power to light the rear door window switch or the rear door ambient lights on the door buckets. The rear windows go up and down but they don't have lights anymore... I revert all I did via OBDEleven reset the MMI. Still not working.. I remove the rear door panels check all the wiring connections, they are good and plugged properly to the Module no damage or pinch cables I also check the main door wiring that plugs to the chassis pillar. Still not red lights on rear window switch. I check all car fuses also good. I have no idea how to fix this. When I was unlocking the ambient lights menu on the MMI, I never touch or code the rear or front doors because they were already coded. I'm really puzzle because everything should work fine since I reverted back the coding I did. And I double checked the history logs of what I did. I then long coded the rear doors with the original code prior to unlock puddle lights and got nothing. I try the code from after the puddle lights, prior to this issue and still nothing. I have cycle the doors during the coding and even disconnect the battery and still nothing. I unplugged the leds lights from the rear window switch and still nothing. I run a output test on both rear doors and they light on fine. Any help with this matter please.
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on Dec 11, 2020 19:45:01 GMT
However two things happen, my dimmer switch on the dash does not work properly it doesn't lower the intensity during the day, only at night when the auto lights turn on, is when it works eli0073 : I'm not sure about the other matters in your post, but in respect of your observation above - the dimmer switch doesn't control dashboard light illumination during daylight!
For daytime periods, dashboard lights are controlled by a photo-transistor that's embedded in the clock dials (shine a torch onto the rev counter to see the effect). So, the dimmer switch is meant to operate exactly as you have observed !
Don
PS: and please don't double post - it contravenes the forum rules and it makes a certain moderator cranky!!!
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Post by eli0073 on Dec 11, 2020 21:48:24 GMT
I didn't double post and if I did it was certainly not my intention first time ever posting here. I saw a post with similar issue. And I reply to see if that person has solve his problems.
Great info on the dash dimmer switch. However the main problem remains. The gatteway has lost communication with door Modules control C and D, hence my issue no lights on the rear door window switches.
19 Gateway
System description: GW MQB High Software number: 5Q0907530AJ Software version: 2246 Hardware number: 5Q0907530M Hardware version: 212 Serial number: 21111510801872 ODX name: EV_GatewConti ODX version: 013020 Long coding: 0101000830085A005B00022C980B00000001010000000000000000000000
Subsystems: System description: E221 - MFL Software version: 0014 Hardware version: H02 Serial number: 16 11 2015 D0042979
Trouble codes: U020100 - Lost Communication With “Door Control Module C” static Date: 2020-12-11 14:32:07 Mileage: 77213 km Priority: 2 Malfunction frequency counter: 1 Unlearning counter: 17 Supply voltage, terminal 30: 12.4 V Terminal 15: On U020200 - Lost Communication With “Door Control Module D” static Date: 2020-12-11 14:32:07 Mileage: 77213 km Priority: 2 Malfunction frequency counter: 1 Unlearning counter: 17 Supply voltage, terminal 30: 12.4 V Terminal 15: On U112600 - Undefined control module No communication static Date: 2020-12-11 14:32:07 Mileage: 77213 km Priority: 2 Malfunction frequency counter: 1 Unlearning counter: 17 Supply voltage, terminal 30: 12.4 V Terminal 15: On U112400 - Data bus Additional installations detected static Date: 2020-12-11 14:32:07 Mileage: 77213 km Priority: 2 Malfunction frequency counter: 2 Unlearning counter: 17 Supply voltage, terminal 30: 12.4 V Terminal 15: On
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on Dec 12, 2020 23:24:17 GMT
eli0073 : hmm very odd indeed! Your A3 has separate rear door modules (Driver-side= J388 and Passenger- side=J389) that communicate directly to the CAN bus (in other MQB platform models, the rear doors are controlled by the front door modules). So- some interesting fault-codes U020100 - Lost Communication With “Door Control Module C” U020200 - Lost Communication With “Door Control Module D” "Module C & D" refer to the rear door modules - and Module "A & B" (not in your post) are the front door controllers. On your complete scan report do the rear door modules appear properly - or said another way, are these modules correctly communicating to the diagnostic module?
U112600 - Undefined control module No communication U112400 - Data bus Additional installations detected
The first error message suggests that the diagnostic module (@ address hex19) has been asked to speak to a module of unknown origin. The second error message suggests the opposite; there are modules physically fitted to the CAN network that diagnostic module has no knowledge-of!
Of course I'm guessing, but ALL errors above suggest that perhaps there is a problem with the Gateway installation list on your car. Please check that the 2 x rear door modules are registered in the Installation list and then check that no module is registered that isn't physically installed in the car (by selecting the pencil icon in the red circle). Or you could enable the AUTOcode feature in OBD11 which is eloquently explained by @testeronline here (assuming that you are using the Android operating system)
Don
PS: As for double-posting, I was referring to your almost identical reply here. Doesn't particularly bother me - but then I'm not the person that has oversight of members following the forum rules.
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Post by eli0073 on Dec 13, 2020 4:23:26 GMT
I have use the feature as you mentioned to make sure everything is as it should.
Weirdly I have no trouble codes on neither bb or bc. Or any of the doors. I have another trouble code on 5F multimedia but I doubt that has anything to do with this issue of not having lights on the rear window switches.
OBDeleven data log
Date: 2020-12-12 15:14
VIN: WAUB1GFF7G1067433 Car: Audi S3 Year: 2016 Body type: Saloon Engine: CYFB Mileage: 77290 KM
--------------------------------------------------------------- 01 Engine
System description: 2.0l R4 TFSI Software number: 8V0906259H Software version: 0002 Hardware number: 06K907425E Hardware version: H13 ODX name: EV_ECM20TFS0208V0906259H ODX version: 001003 Long coding: 0A1D00122426000E3004
Trouble codes: No trouble codes found
--------------------------------------------------------------- 02 Transmission
System description: DQ250-6A MQB Software number: 0D9300012 Software version: 5046 Hardware number: 02E927770AQ Hardware version: H53 Serial number: TFK01511101197 ODX name: EV_TCMDQ250021 ODX version: 001001 Long coding: 0014
Trouble codes: No trouble codes found
--------------------------------------------------------------- 03 Brakes
System description: ESC Software number: 3Q0907379AA Software version: 0623 Hardware number: 3Q0907379F Hardware version: H42 Serial number: 93225000001636 ODX name: EV_Brake1UDSContiMK100IPB ODX version: 034036 Long coding: 31FF6B9254260A73017B030341C6698CD62A5080C08296B6024100D48208
Trouble codes: No trouble codes found
--------------------------------------------------------------- 08 Air Conditioning
System description: AC Automat Software number: 8V0820043D Software version: 0060 Hardware number: 8V0820043D Hardware version: H14 Serial number: 00000000805012 ODX name: EV_AirCondiFrontVaAU37X ODX version: 008020 Long coding: 03000014010000000000000000001400
Trouble codes: No trouble codes found
--------------------------------------------------------------- 09 Central Electrics
System description: BCM MQBAB HNA Software number: 5Q0937085AJ Software version: 0175 Hardware number: 5Q0937085AF Hardware version: H24 Serial number: 01061532000193 ODX name: EV_BCMMQB ODX version: 015001 Long coding: 04151A46C04122F541C04004511807A00800000000000000000000000000
Subsystems: System description: WWS371 151108 Software version: 0585 Hardware version: 043 Serial number: 151118072636 Long coding: 0A47F7
System description: G397_RLFS Software version: 0004 Hardware version: H06 Serial number: 60958114 Long coding: 00006C
System description: E1 - LDS MQB Software version: 0032 Hardware version: H05 Serial number: 10 09 2015 00000970
System description: Sirene, DWA Software version: 0312 Hardware version: 005 Serial number: 00000000000033987214
System description: J245 PS73.404 Software version: 0004 Hardware version: H03 Serial number: 0000FST000OLZLT00000 Long coding: 101F00
Trouble codes: No trouble codes found
--------------------------------------------------------------- 14 Wheel Dampening
System description: DAEMPFUNGS-SG Software number: 8V0907376E Software version: 0072 Hardware number: 8V0907376E Hardware version: H09 Serial number: 2711150164 ODX name: EV_AudiMagneRide ODX version: 002003
Trouble codes: No trouble codes found
--------------------------------------------------------------- 15 Airbag
System description: AirbagVW20 Software number: 5Q0959655J Software version: 0830 Hardware number: 5Q0959655J Hardware version: 010 Serial number: 003GCR040WAI ODX name: EV_AirbaVW20SMEVW37X ODX version: 002144 Long coding: 9DCCFCC0000000005000001AC24800000065
Subsystems: System description: BeltPretRevFL Software version: 0350 Hardware version: H36 Serial number: 34230167A26111540217 Long coding: 333135
System description: BeltPretRevFR Software version: 0350 Hardware version: H36 Serial number: 34230168A26111540653 Long coding: 333135
System description: BF-Gewichtss. Software version: 0046 Hardware version: H10 Serial number: 694000000000001F1B15 Long coding: 303337
System description: SideSensor_Df Software version: 0887 Hardware version: 001 Serial number: 357000000009B5A0D71S Long coding: 2D2D2D
System description: SideSensor_Pf Software version: 0887 Hardware version: 001 Serial number: 3580000000030670D71A Long coding: 2D2D2D
System description: SideSensor_Dr Software version: 6149 Hardware version: 001 Serial number: 3510002A51DBD6259112 Long coding: 2D2D2D
System description: SideSensor_Pr Software version: 6149 Hardware version: 001 Serial number: 3520002C51DCBE132011 Long coding: 2D2D2D
System description: FrontSensor_D Software version: 6149 Hardware version: 001 Serial number: 3550002BB1D1B62551B7 Long coding: 2D2D2D
System description: FrontSensor_P Software version: 6149 Hardware version: 001 Serial number: 3560002BB1D1B6246376 Long coding: 2D2D2D
Trouble codes: No trouble codes found
--------------------------------------------------------------- 16 Steering Column
System description: Lenks. Modul Software number: 8V0953521FH Software version: 0120 Hardware number: 5Q0953549E Hardware version: 003 Serial number: 30111504221599 ODX name: EV_SMLSKLOMQB ODX version: 020001 Long coding: A018
Trouble codes: No trouble codes found
--------------------------------------------------------------- 17 Dashboard
System description: KOMBI Software number: 8V0920972B Software version: 6423 Hardware number: 8V0920972B Hardware version: H03 ODX name: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB ODX version: 009051 Long coding: 0BED181B3B80D7050201AA001800000000000000
Trouble codes: No trouble codes found
--------------------------------------------------------------- 19 Gateway
System description: GW MQB High Software number: 5Q0907530AJ Software version: 2246 Hardware number: 5Q0907530M Hardware version: 212 Serial number: 21111510801872 ODX name: EV_GatewConti ODX version: 013020 Long coding: 0101000830085A005B00022C980B00000001010000000000000000000000
Subsystems: System description: E221 - MFL Software version: 0014 Hardware version: H02 Serial number: 16 11 2015 D0042979
Trouble codes: U020100 - Lost Communication With “Door Control Module C” static Date: 2020-12-11 14:38:28 Mileage: 77213 km Priority: 2 Malfunction frequency counter: 2 Unlearning counter: 19 Supply voltage, terminal 30: 13.9 V Terminal 15: On U020200 - Lost Communication With “Door Control Module D” static Date: 2020-12-11 14:38:28 Mileage: 77213 km Priority: 2 Malfunction frequency counter: 2 Unlearning counter: 19 Supply voltage, terminal 30: 13.9 V Terminal 15: On U112600 - Undefined control module No communication static Date: 2020-12-11 14:38:28 Mileage: 77213 km Priority: 2 Malfunction frequency counter: 3 Unlearning counter: 19 Supply voltage, terminal 30: 13.9 V Terminal 15: On U112400 - Data bus Additional installations detected static Date: 2020-12-11 14:38:28 Mileage: 77213 km Priority: 2 Malfunction frequency counter: 17 Unlearning counter: 19 Supply voltage, terminal 30: 13.9 V Terminal 15: On
--------------------------------------------------------------- 22 All Wheel Control
System description: Haldex4Motion Software number: 0CQ907554H Software version: 7083 Hardware number: 0CQ525130 Hardware version: H52 Serial number: HA1-00016.10.1500010239 ODX name: EV_AllWheelContrHA1VW37X ODX version: 004013 Long coding: 0001
Trouble codes: No trouble codes found
--------------------------------------------------------------- 2B Steering Column Lock
System description: ELV-MQBA Software number: 5Q0905861A Software version: 0120 Hardware number: 5Q0905861A Hardware version: H01 Serial number: 15000246335009 ODX name: EV_ELVMarquMQB ODX version: 004111 Long coding: 5D00000000000000
Trouble codes: No trouble codes found
--------------------------------------------------------------- 37 Navigation
System description: MU-S-S-US Software number: 8V0035844C Software version: 0660 Hardware number: 8V0035844 Hardware version: 014 Serial number: A7A02411150378 ODX name: EV_MUStd6C3PASE ODX version: 002020 Long coding: 01730102FF0A000021220001001A00002F0002040180010002
Trouble codes: No trouble codes found
--------------------------------------------------------------- 42 Driver Door
System description: TSG FS Software number: 5Q0959393E Software version: 0041 Hardware number: 5Q0959393B Hardware version: 020 Serial number: 171015BJH03014 ODX name: EV_DCUDriveSideEWMINKLO ODX version: 006003 Long coding: 001E1B204000048000000002
Trouble codes: No trouble codes found
--------------------------------------------------------------- 44 Steering Assistance
System description: EPS_MQB_ZFLS Software number: 3Q0909144J Software version: 5063 Hardware number: 3Q0909144H Hardware version: 505 ODX name: EV_SteerAssisMQB ODX version: 012140 Long coding: 8102
Trouble codes: No trouble codes found
--------------------------------------------------------------- 52 Passenger Door
System description: TSG BFS Software number: 5Q0959392E Software version: 0041 Hardware number: 5Q0959392B Hardware version: 020 Serial number: 041015BJ308178 ODX name: EV_DCUPasseSideEWMINKLO ODX version: 006003 Long coding: 001E13204C00048000000002
Trouble codes: No trouble codes found
--------------------------------------------------------------- 55 Headlight Regulation
System description: LWR-ECU Software number: 5Q0907357 Software version: 0080 Hardware number: 6R0907357A Hardware version: 005 Serial number: -------------- ODX name: EV_HeadlRegulVWLWRMQB ODX version: 001110 Long coding: 0122000101000000
Trouble codes: No trouble codes found
--------------------------------------------------------------- 5F Multimedia
System description: MU-S-S-US Software number: 8V0035844C Software version: 0660 Hardware number: 8V0035844 Hardware version: 014 Serial number: A7A02411150378 ODX name: EV_MUStd6C3PASE ODX version: 002020 Long coding: 01730102FF0A000021220001001A00002F0002040180010002
Subsystems: System description: ControlUnit_B Software version: 0054 Hardware version: H41 Serial number: C1000009101500010043
System description: DU Std Software version: 0014 Hardware version: H49 Serial number: AUZ8Z9FY30F620
Trouble codes: B11CF53 - Tuner for satellite radio Deactivated static Date: 2020-12-11 14:38:12 Mileage: 77213 km Priority: 4 Malfunction frequency counter: 1 Unlearning counter: 17 Dynamic environmental data: 02868C2446FF000000FFFF00
--------------------------------------------------------------- 6C Rear View Camera
System description: MQB RVC Mid Software number: 5Q0907441A Software version: 0140 Hardware number: 5Q0907441A Hardware version: H07 ODX name: EV_2CamSysRearPASE ODX version: 006016 Long coding: 027300010201000300
Trouble codes: No trouble codes found
--------------------------------------------------------------- 76 Parking Assistance
System description: PARKHILFE 8K Software number: 5Q0919294K Software version: 0054 Hardware number: 5Q0919294A Hardware version: H03 Serial number: 39391532102708 ODX name: EV_EPHVA18AU3700000 ODX version: 002026 Long coding: 0010150011
Trouble codes: No trouble codes found
--------------------------------------------------------------- A9 Structure Borne Sound
System description: SAS-GEN 2 Software number: 8V0907159 Software version: 0012 Hardware number: 4H0907159A Hardware version: H06 Serial number: 151105202354 ODX name: EV_SoundActuaGen2AU64X ODX version: 003010
Trouble codes: No trouble codes found
--------------------------------------------------------------- B7 Start System Interface
System description: VWKESSYMQB Software number: 5Q0959435A Software version: 0604 Hardware number: 5Q0959435 Hardware version: 021 Serial number: 0387262985 ODX name: EV_KessyHellaMQBAB ODX version: 002011 Long coding: 030C1C
Trouble codes: No trouble codes found
--------------------------------------------------------------- BB Rear Left Door
System description: TSG HFS Software number: 5Q0959395E Software version: 0041 Hardware number: 5Q0959395B Hardware version: 020 Serial number: 021115BK200084 ODX name: EV_DCURearDriveMINKLO ODX version: 006003 Long coding: 000E13204000048000000002
Trouble codes: No trouble codes found
--------------------------------------------------------------- BC Rear Right Door
System description: TSG HBFS Software number: 5Q0959395E Software version: 0041 Hardware number: 5Q0959395B Hardware version: 020 Serial number: 021115BK200088 ODX name: EV_DCURearPasseMINKLO ODX version: 006003 Long coding: 000E13204000048000000002
Trouble codes: No trouble codes found
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on Dec 13, 2020 23:10:40 GMT
eli0073 : hmm.......... nothing obvious (to me) in your scan report. Have you checked the Installation list for incorrect modules registered with the Gateway module?
What about the records in your History file - perhaps you have changed a setting related to the door modules?
Don
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Post by eli0073 on Dec 15, 2020 0:25:24 GMT
Have I checked the Installation list for incorrect modules registered with the Gateway module? I don't quite understand...could you guide me on that? How would I know? And where exactly in the gateway i need to check?
As per my history files I did change settings in the door Modules..I activated ambient lights and door exit lights. To get the puddle lights to work. Other than that no other changes to the doors. And they were working fine prior to my adventure unlocking Interior Ambient lights menu on the MMI.
I've been told that OBDEleven sometimes messes with parameterization, and it could uploads generic datasets.
I was recommended to perform SVM to production plant record to put the control units to factory specification via Odis.
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on Dec 15, 2020 5:05:13 GMT
@elioo73: OK -the Gateway module (hex19) in your scan report above contains errors about Lost Communication With “Door Control Module C & D. But it also has the fault U112600 - Undefined control module No communication. This latter fault kind-of suggests to me that either there is either a module that's physically installed on your car and that it is not registered in the Gateway list, or someone as registered a module on your car in the Gateway list that hasn't been installed. The Gateway list can be accessed like this in OBD11:
Of course it's important to only tick those modules in the Gateway list that are physically installed in the car. You can manually check this using the screens above, or you can use the Autocode facility as described by @testeronline here
Don
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Post by panos7 on Feb 8, 2023 16:21:11 GMT
I was unlocking via OBDEleven the Ambient lights Menu on the MMI to activate the foot well lights as I was getting ready to do the retrofit. As I have previously done the necessary coding and done Puddle lights retrofit and ambient lights in the door buckets this one are wired to the door window switch. I did all the activation reset the MMI and menu appear. I followed the guide on this thread: www.audi-sport.net/xf/threads/a3-8v-removing-j519-t46b-in-attempt-to-install-footwell-and-cupholder-lights.276625/However two things happen, my dimmer switch on the dash does not work properly it doesn't lower the intensity during the day, only at night when the auto lights turn on, is when it works and my car is not getting any power to light the rear door window switch or the rear door ambient lights on the door buckets. The rear windows go up and down but they don't have lights anymore... I revert all I did via OBDEleven reset the MMI. Still not working.. I remove the rear door panels check all the wiring connections, they are good and plugged properly to the Module no damage or pinch cables I also check the main door wiring that plugs to the chassis pillar. Still not red lights on rear window switch. I check all car fuses also good. I have no idea how to fix this. When I was unlocking the ambient lights menu on the MMI, I never touch or code the rear or front doors because they were already coded. I'm really puzzle because everything should work fine since I reverted back the coding I did. And I double checked the history logs of what I did. I then long coded the rear doors with the original code prior to unlock puddle lights and got nothing. I try the code from after the puddle lights, prior to this issue and still nothing. I have cycle the doors during the coding and even disconnect the battery and still nothing. I unplugged the leds lights from the rear window switch and still nothing. I run a output test on both rear doors and they light on fine. Any help with this matter please.
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Post by panos7 on Feb 8, 2023 16:22:21 GMT
Dis you find the problem??
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