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Post by mcclooney on Oct 25, 2020 10:01:16 GMT
Hello,
This weekend I installed an OEM aliexpress camera in my girlfriend's car.
The coding adjusted now I only get a message that there is no signal from the camera and the image remains black the camera it selfs pops open.
Things I've Tried:
Camera placed in my own car! camera works!
Bought a second camera harness and this tested does not work either.
Coding checked (5F & Parkassist)
Maybe someone here has a solution?
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Post by mcclooney on Oct 25, 2020 10:58:13 GMT
Tried some solutions today:
Putt the camera on the main battery to test still black screen.
The cable on the reversing lights gives 12V messured it.
messured the coax cable my multimeter peeps on both wires and there is no connection isseu.
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Post by vwjap on Oct 25, 2020 11:11:53 GMT
Connected to the right place on back of mini in glovebox, solid connections as their just not slide in, you have to pop off the sides of the blue plug then slide in the pop the sides back into place, also are they the right way round
Also some discover media units don’t work with RVC
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Post by mcclooney on Oct 25, 2020 11:31:34 GMT
Hi VWJap
Tnkx for your replay, yes i have double checked the black and white wire they are on pin 6 and 12 same posistion as my own car and this video:
Do you know wich discover media are not supported?
This is the info from the discovery media
PARTNUMBER: 3Q0035874C SW-MU version 0891 MST2_EU_P0891D
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Post by vwjap on Oct 25, 2020 15:14:46 GMT
5G0035812, 5G0035819, 5G0035819A, 5G0035820, or 5G0035820A. So should be good
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Post by mcclooney on Oct 25, 2020 15:23:30 GMT
Do you have any other possible problem?
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Post by vwjap on Oct 25, 2020 15:27:42 GMT
So just to make sure, you connected all four wires to the fuse box/ radio, you connected the one to the blue and black to the reverse light wire, camera flips open, and did both the program in long coding in 5F and 76, what fuse did you connect to in fuse Box?
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Post by mcclooney on Oct 25, 2020 16:21:36 GMT
VWJap
Yes the black/blue wire i connected to the right reverse light on the same black/blue wire that exist there. with my multimeter i have tested that its getting 12V
the 2 wires the black and white one i connected to the blue box on the radio pin 6 and 12 as in de video above. the red wire i made a extension on the mib main power 12v to test i have directly connected it to the cars battery with a 7.5A fuse.
Coding i did correctly with the obdleven. in the 5F and the parkassist module.
Camera pops up scrreen shows the camera menu etc butt the screen stays black, also have a second wireing harness did test it quiclky butt the same result. to make sure it was not the coax cable that was broken.
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then i decided to test the camera in my own car here it works correctly, tryed my camera in my GF car it stays black again. very frustrating haha!
Looks like everything works only the camera it self is not getting power or is not turning on..
Dont know what i can do more...
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Post by vwjap on Oct 25, 2020 17:15:39 GMT
I wonder if the highline settings are active, could check them,
I’ll just look them up for you
this should be set not active
Car_Function_List_BAP_Gen2:
VPS_0x0B:
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Post by vwjap on Oct 25, 2020 17:26:06 GMT
I’m sure the lowline camera is dumb and wouldn’t send any messages to the 5f, whereas the highline is canbus so could send a message
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Post by mcclooney on Oct 25, 2020 17:52:35 GMT
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Post by vwjap on Oct 25, 2020 18:07:15 GMT
Why have you got radio AND 5f?
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Post by mcclooney on Oct 25, 2020 18:22:18 GMT
yes that looks strange to me to. butt i cant disable it?
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Post by vwjap on Oct 25, 2020 18:44:56 GMT
Click on the round circle with the pencil in it and scroll down to radio and deselect it
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Post by mcclooney on Nov 4, 2020 10:43:21 GMT
Will try this option this weekend..
any other solutions i can try?
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Post by mcclooney on Nov 5, 2020 18:23:42 GMT
VWjap,
i have looked in the 3dots butt the 56 module is not turned on butt it shows it in the list. is there a way to reset it?
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Post by vwjap on Nov 5, 2020 19:11:12 GMT
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Post by mcclooney on Nov 5, 2020 19:28:50 GMT
Yes did that butt the 56 module is not even turned on butt it still shows in the overview
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Post by mcclooney on Nov 5, 2020 19:49:55 GMT
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on Nov 5, 2020 20:38:15 GMT
@mccloomey: Hi. With vwjap indulgence, a couple of thoughts: First, as I understand your camera is the low-line type, so the link in your post above does not apply. Please confirm that you have a low-line reverse camera. Second, are you sure that you haven't reversed the video signal connectors on the quad-connector @ the rear of the MIB unit? The sheath of the coax cable is earth and it connects to pin# 12 and the "active" signal wire connects to pin#6 - as shown below:  Here's the pin-out designations on the quad-connector - I've highlighted the 2 x pins. Please confirm that the video cable is correctly terminated  Don |
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Post by mcclooney on Nov 6, 2020 12:10:28 GMT
Hi DV52,
Yes its correctly installed.
Also went to a shop today thats in the retrofit business and they cant also cant find the problem.
They have installed a different camera different headunit and different wireingloon non off these solotions work also..
Maybe u know a other solution?
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on Nov 6, 2020 21:24:43 GMT
@cclooney: post-up a copy of your scan report please- so I can see how the car is equipped Don  |
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Post by mcclooney on Nov 7, 2020 16:09:25 GMT
Yes here it is  OBDeleven data log
Date: 2020-11-07 17:02
VIN: WVWZZZAUZJW020914
Car: Volkswagen Golf R Grid
Year: 2018
Body type: 5-dr hatchback
Engine: DADA 110 kW (150 HP) 1.5 l
Mileage: 28474 KM
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01 Motorelektronica
System description: R4 1.5l TFS
Software number: 05E906018A
Software version: 4937
Hardware number: 05E907309
Hardware version: H21
ODX name: EV_ECM15TFS01105E906018A
ODX version: 003006
Long coding: 011900322324050820000000000000000000000000000000
Trouble codes:
No trouble codes found
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03 Elektronica remsysteem
System description: ESC
Software number: 5Q0614517CG
Software version: 0643
Hardware number: 5Q0614517AG
Hardware version: H62
Serial number: 91367000018478
ODX name: EV_Brake1UDSContiMK100IPB
ODX version: 036010
Long coding: 01FA6AA12422216C4780060140C72980562484E26002947320205078C002430000000012121212B835351919323200
Trouble codes:
No trouble codes found
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08 Elektronica airco/verwarming
System description: Climatronic
Software number: 5G0907044CF
Software version: 1801
Hardware number: 5G0907044CF
Hardware version: H04
ODX name: EV_ACClimaBHBVW37X
ODX version: 006145
Long coding: 00020014200110011005000000101022
Trouble codes:
No trouble codes found
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09 Centrale elektrische kast elektronica
System description: BCM MQBAB M+
Software number: 5Q0937084CP
Software version: 0253
Hardware number: 5Q0937084CF
Hardware version: H36
Serial number: 01001716100163
ODX name: EV_BCMMQB
ODX version: 018001
Long coding: 000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
Subsystems:
System description: WWS 170508
Software version: 0551
Hardware version: 043
Serial number: 170529214707
Long coding: 0E4DDD
System description: RLHS
Software version: 0105
Hardware version: 042
Serial number: S8Y17M06D13H04M29S03
Long coding: 00A8DD
System description: J245 PS73.404
Software version: 0004
Hardware version: H03
Serial number: 0000FST001MTJNM00000
Long coding: 181801
Trouble codes:
No trouble codes found
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15 Airbag
System description: AirbagVW21
Software number: 5Q0959655BH
Software version: 0336
Hardware number: 5Q0959655BH
Hardware version: 005
Serial number: 003VVR31NJAJ
ODX name: EV_AirbaVW20SMEVW37X
ODX version: 002158
Long coding: 98CCC000000000005C0000CF000800000065
Subsystems:
System description: SideSensor_Df
Software version: 0887
Hardware version: 001
Serial number: 357000000002D770452C
Long coding: 2D2D2D
System description: SideSensor_Pf
Software version: 0887
Hardware version: 001
Serial number: 358000000009D46C052O
Long coding: 2D2D2D
System description: SideSensor_Dr
Software version: 6149
Hardware version: 000
Serial number: 3510001AB260B4359690
Long coding: 2D2D2D
System description: SideSensor_Pr
Software version: 6149
Hardware version: 000
Serial number: 3520001C325DA8B54806
Long coding: 2D2D2D
System description: FrontSensor_D
Software version: 6149
Hardware version: 000
Serial number: 35500019B25E615484DA
Long coding: 2D2D2D
Trouble codes:
No trouble codes found
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16 Stuurkolomelektronica
System description: Lenks. Modul
Software number: 5Q0953507FT
Software version: 0140
Hardware number: 5Q0953549F
Hardware version: 003
Serial number: 08061704221234
ODX name: EV_SMLSKLOMQB
ODX version: 020002
Long coding: 0400
Trouble codes:
No trouble codes found
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17 Instrumentenpaneel
System description: KOMBI
Software number: 5G1920791A
Software version: 3193
Hardware number: 5G1920791A
Hardware version: 407
ODX name: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB
ODX version: 009058
Long coding: 07AD01002B80000801086A001401000000000000
Trouble codes:
No trouble codes found
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19 Diagnose-interface voor databus
System description: GW MQB High
Software number: 3Q0907530G
Software version: 4303
Hardware number: 3Q0907530C
Hardware version: 433
Serial number: 0006423269
ODX name: EV_GatewNF
ODX version: 013023
Long coding: 030100047F085700FA000248080F00010001070000000000000000000000
Subsystems:
System description: J367-BDMHella
Software version: 9070
Hardware version: H10
Serial number: 3333644004
System description: E221__MFL-DC1
Software version: 0103
Hardware version: H17
Serial number: 39170001392230097211
Long coding: 28FFFF
Trouble codes:
No trouble codes found
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29 Lichtregeling links
System description: LCM_MLBevo
Software number: 8V0907399D
Software version: 0014
Hardware number: 8V0907399D
Hardware version: H08
ODX name: EV_LCMLeftHELLAAU736
ODX version: 001012
Trouble codes:
No trouble codes found
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39 Lichtregeling rechts
System description: LCM_MLBevo
Software number: 8V0907399D
Software version: 0014
Hardware number: 8V0907399D
Hardware version: H08
ODX name: EV_LCMRightHELLAAU736
ODX version: 001012
Trouble codes:
No trouble codes found
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42 Elektronica bestuurdersportier
System description: TSG FS
Software number: 5Q4959593E
Software version: 0032
Hardware number: 5Q4959593B
Hardware version: 010
Serial number: 0000200863070
ODX name: EV_DCUDriveSideEWMAXCONT
ODX version: 006001
Long coding: 00300320DE00040000801000
Subsystems:
System description: FOND_FHSG_DRV
Software version: 0007
Hardware version: 005
Serial number: 00000000000015068787
Long coding: 110000
Trouble codes:
No trouble codes found
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44 stuurbekr.
System description: EPS_MQB_ZFLS
Software number: 5Q0909144T
Software version: 1072
Hardware number: 5Q0909144R
Hardware version: 129
ODX name: EV_SteerAssisMQB
ODX version: 013144
Long coding: 0107
Trouble codes:
No trouble codes found
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4B Multifunctiemodule
System description: FCM MQB Low
Software number: 3Q0907338
Software version: 0286
Hardware number: 3Q0907338
Hardware version: 002
Serial number: 01061710800438
ODX name: EV_MultiModulContiVW48X
ODX version: 001010
Long coding: 000000050100164A00100F01020000000000000000000000000000000000
Trouble codes:
No trouble codes found
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52 Elektronica bijrijdersportier
System description: TSG BFS
Software number: 5Q4959592E
Software version: 0032
Hardware number: 5Q4959592B
Hardware version: 010
Serial number: 0000199943784
ODX name: EV_DCUPasseSideEWMAXCONT
ODX version: 006001
Long coding: 00300320DE00040000801000
Subsystems:
System description: FOND_FHSG_PSG
Software version: 0007
Hardware version: 005
Serial number: 00000000000015176959
Long coding: 090000
Trouble codes:
No trouble codes found
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56 Radio
System description: MU-S-ND-ER
Software number: 3Q0035874C
Software version: 0891
Hardware number: 3Q0035874C
Hardware version: 851
Serial number:
ODX name: EV_MUStd4CDELP
ODX version: 001001
Long coding: 02731001FF0000005111010100880A001F0506F401200000CF
Subsystems:
System description: ABT_Std-2_Nav
Software version: 8130
Hardware version: H50
Serial number: VWZ6ZHT1661349
System description: ECE AS 19/20
Software version: 1115
Hardware version: ---
Serial number: --------------------
Trouble codes:
B110231 - Achteruitrijcamera Geen signaal
Permanent
Date: 2020-11-06 13:32:05
Mileage: 28439 km
Prioriteit: 3
teller storingfrequentie: 1
Verleerteller: 165
Dynamische omgevingsgegevens: 02867C
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5F Informatie-elektronica 1
System description: MU-S-ND-ER
Software number: 3Q0035874C
Software version: 0891
Hardware number: 3Q0035874C
Hardware version: 851
Serial number:
ODX name: EV_MUStd4CDELP
ODX version: 001001
Long coding: 02731001FF0000005111010100880A001F0506F401200000CF
Subsystems:
System description: ABT_Std-2_Nav
Software version: 8130
Hardware version: H50
Serial number: VWZ6ZHT1661349
System description: ECE AS 19/20
Software version: 1115
Hardware version: ---
Serial number: --------------------
Trouble codes:
B110231 - Achteruitrijcamera Geen signaal
Permanent
Date: 2020-11-06 13:32:05
Mileage: 28439 km
Prioriteit: 3
teller storingfrequentie: 1
Verleerteller: 165
Dynamische omgevingsgegevens: 02867C
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76 Parkeerhulp
System description: PDC 8 Kanal
Software number: 5QA919294B
Software version: 0044
Hardware number: 5QA919294
Hardware version: H07
Serial number: 00030841861716101361
ODX name: EV_EPHVA18AU3700000
ODX version: 009035
Long coding: 0471151001
Trouble codes:
No trouble codes found
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D6 Lichtregeling 2 links
System description: LED1L
Software number: 7P5941572A
Software version: 0002
Hardware number: 7P5941572A
Hardware version: H06
ODX name: EV_LEDMinMaxL_KEBODAVW481
ODX version: 001003
Trouble codes:
No trouble codes found
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D7 Lichtregeling 2 rechts
System description: LED1R
Software number: 7P5941572A
Software version: 0002
Hardware number: 7P5941572A
Hardware version: H06
ODX name: EV_LEDMinMaxR_KEBODAVW481
ODX version: 001003
Trouble codes:
No trouble codes found
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on Nov 7, 2020 22:17:58 GMT
@ mcclooney : hm........... so here's the thing - I've seen many, many scan reports for mk7/7.5 vehicles from various diagnostic cables, but yours is unique because it replicates the same MIB equipment on 2 x separate hexadecimal addresses (i.e. hex56 & hex5F). Generally (always?) MQB platform vehicles DO NOT have a hex56 module! My belief is that you need to fix this problem first before you will solve your RVC fault. So, tell me about the MIB equipment - was it factory fitted to the car, or was it retrofitted?
Also, please tell me more about the hex56 entry on your scan results - do you have an early scan for this car that you can compare with the information in your post above? And, are there any records in your History data that shows when the hex56 module was registered in the Gateway module installation list? Don
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Post by mcclooney on Nov 7, 2020 22:42:05 GMT
Hi dv52
Is there a way to reset the bcm so it will remove the 56 radio module?
I don't have a old scan, the 5f module works perfect for the rest...
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on Nov 7, 2020 23:25:40 GMT
hmm........I've no doubt that your MIB works perfect- but I repeat "So, tell me about the MIB equipment - was it factory fitted to the car, or was it retrofitted?"
Don
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on Nov 7, 2020 23:47:49 GMT
Hi dv52 Is there a way to reset the bcm so it will remove the 56 radio module? I'm not sure, but I suspect that there may be a misunderstanding as to the role of the BCM in your problem. To be clear, I don't believe that the BCM is implicated at all in this matter! The "Installation list" on MQB platform vehicles that defines which modules are legitimately able to be polled resides in the Gateway module @ address hex19 (not the hex09 module).
But on OBD11 software, there is an automated facility ("AUTOCODE") that can be used to align the physical modules connected to the CAN network with the Installation list. Our fellow colleague, @testeronline authored the post below which eloquently describes how AUTOCODE is enabled. Don
the autocode process can be found here cupra280.co.uk/obd11.html#AutocodeHowever to make it easier 1/ From the Main menu select Settings
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if the popup box does not arrive I suspect the autocode process does not think you are missing any control units. Once you have selected the control unit double check the status of it (if the number is in a Black Circle then its not being picked up as a live control unit by OBD11)
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2020 0:08:25 GMT
dv52 (Australia) Just to add to this (and I updated the web page) I am afraid for some reason they have not included this feature in IOS Version yet so for IOS you have to manually add or remove items.
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Post by mcclooney on Nov 8, 2020 10:54:10 GMT
hmm........I've no doubt that your MIB works perfect- but I repeat "So, tell me about the MIB equipment - was it factory fitted to the car, or was it retrofitted?" Don Dv52 yes the mib2 is installed from factory |
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Post by mcclooney on Nov 8, 2020 11:04:29 GMT
Hi dv52 Is there a way to reset the bcm so it will remove the 56 radio module? I'm not sure, but I suspect that there may be a misunderstanding as to the role of the BCM in your problem. To be clear, I don't believe that the BCM is implicated at all in this matter! The "Installation list" on MQB platform vehicles that defines which modules are legitimately able to be polled resides in the Gateway module @ address hex19 (not the hex09 module).
But on OBD11 software, there is an automated facility ("AUTOCODE") that can be used to align the physical modules connected to the CAN network with the Installation list. Our fellow colleague, @testeronline authored the post below which eloquently describes how AUTOCODE is enabled. Don
the autocode process can be found here cupra280.co.uk/obd11.html#AutocodeHowever to make it easier 1/ From the Main menu select Settings
| 2/ From Settings Menu ensure Autocode Gateway List is set to show, if not change it to show
| 3/ Connect to car and you should get the following popup box , Select Yes and any missing control units will be ADDED
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if the popup box does not arrive I suspect the autocode process does not think you are missing any control units. Once you have selected the control unit double check the status of it (if the number is in a Black Circle then its not being picked up as a live control unit by OBD11)
This does not remove the 56 unit I enabled it my self and then the auto code pops up butt it does not remove the 56 control unit |
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