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Post by ustolle on Jul 5, 2020 18:46:06 GMT
Done some testing today. Unfortunately still not there yet. The below coding is all accepted, and returns no errors after coding, end the errors is cleared. After reboot of 5F, I do also get the Trailer assist button in the lover screen. But grayed out. After connecting the trailer, the button remains gray…. When pressed it returns “Trailer maneuver assist not available” STG 44 > Coding > Byte 01 > Bit 2 - "Trailere manuvere assist" STG 46 > Coding > Byte 04 > Bit 7 - "Trailer monitoring" (Not sure about this one) STG 09 > Coding > Byte 28 > Bit 7 - "ARA" installed. STG A5 > Coding > Byte 15 > Bit 4 - "FW_ARA_BCM, installed" STG A5 > Coding > Byte 54 > Bit 6 - "TMA_Trailer_manuvere_assist,installed" STG A5 > Coding > Byte 54 > Bit 7 - "TMA_Trailer_manuvere_assist_image_processin,installed" ENG122227-ENG122315-Car_Function_Adaptations_Gen2-menu_display_trailer_assistant,not activated ,60 > Activate ENG122227-ENG122317-Car_Function_Adaptations_Gen2-menu_display_trailer_assistant_over_threshold_high,not activated ,60 > Activate ENG122229-ENG122331-Car_Function_List_BAP_Gen2-Trailer_Assistant_0x36,not activated ,64 > Activate ENG122229-ENG122332-Car_Function_List_BAP_Gen2-Trailer_Assistant_msg_bus_0x36,not activated ,64 > Klemme15 (KL15) matt : The “lane assist unavailable” can be fixed with ignition off and the on again. At least it worked for me According to this promotion from Audi, PLA is not used. But I am not sure about this, on the MQB platform PLA is necessary for trailer assist to work www.audi-mediacenter.com/en/audimediatv/video/audi-a6-avant-animation-trailer-assist-4258 All inputs are welcome! This one did it for me! Trailer maneuver assist is working! Do have an error on the trailer module that there is no communication for the ”controller for trailer and tongue load detection” but working nonetheless. Amazing! ibb.co/RPbRm29The button only works when trailer electric is attached. It looks like this overwrites the intelligent park assist button though trailer attached or not Edit: hitch must be removed and you must pull away from the trailer in order to get park assist button back. Update: resolved the module error for trailer by unchecking STG 69 > long coding > byte 5 > bit 1 “ASTA”. I may have enabled that the other day trying to get trailer assist working. Regardless it works without this being checked. Got a working trailer assist now. The coding was OK. But I had a faulty bulp on the trailer. That was the reason for the trailer assist not to be available….
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Post by jd on Jul 5, 2020 18:53:37 GMT
I apologize for entering in so late. I have a 2019 A6 Prestige with DA. I am in the US. I can not even find any information on what maneuver assist is. Can anyone point me to some info?
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Post by fazr on Jul 5, 2020 20:18:40 GMT
I apologize for entering in so late. I have a 2019 A6 Prestige with DA. I am in the US. I can not even find any information on what maneuver assist is. Can anyone point me to some info? I have an A7 2019 and have the same ask please.
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Post by ustolle on Jul 5, 2020 21:07:52 GMT
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Post by ustolle on Jul 5, 2020 21:17:54 GMT
if i understand Park assist don't working in car with area view. When looking at the video from "fatjon" it seems like he have a working Parking assist with area view. At least according to the PA button on his screen! vimeo.com/user83522539vimeo.com/user83522539
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2020 21:53:02 GMT
Another question - enabled the maneuvering assist already but the steering wheel is shaking when waiting for the red light ( turned the auto start/stop off). I turned off the maneuvering assist via menu, the steering wheel is not shaking after that.
Anyone confirm this?
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Post by rafsan on Jul 6, 2020 7:57:22 GMT
After activating in module 17 it now steers and it solved the issue, remember to push the speed holder away. But doesn’t brake, tried bit 7 in byte 10 and bit 0 in byte 24 as you guys, but the same problem. It shows contact workshop when it should brake.. I still have enabled parking assist in 19. Now that I activated module 17, I have the same issue as eddlund ... MA works (w/o brakes) and I have an alert "PA dysfunction" Any idea of what to do to solve this? I'll will remove all my changes, I think this MA coding is generating for me more troubles than the gain expected... I hope you'll find a way to have a way to a standard and universal coding of it soon, Good Luck !
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Post by matt on Jul 6, 2020 15:00:28 GMT
Another question - enabled the maneuvering assist already but the steering wheel is shaking when waiting for the red light ( turned the auto start/stop off). I turned off the maneuvering assist via menu, the steering wheel is not shaking after that. Anyone confirm this? I have not had this result on my Q8. MA only seems to be active when you bring up the parking assistance screen, which typically I haven't tried at a stop light, but will give it a try to see what happens.
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Post by matt on Jul 6, 2020 15:01:27 GMT
This one did it for me! Trailer maneuver assist is working! Do have an error on the trailer module that there is no communication for the ”controller for trailer and tongue load detection” but working nonetheless. Amazing! ibb.co/RPbRm29The button only works when trailer electric is attached. It looks like this overwrites the intelligent park assist button though trailer attached or not Edit: hitch must be removed and you must pull away from the trailer in order to get park assist button back. Update: resolved the module error for trailer by unchecking STG 69 > long coding > byte 5 > bit 1 “ASTA”. I may have enabled that the other day trying to get trailer assist working. Regardless it works without this being checked. Got a working trailer assist now. The coding was OK. But I had a faulty bulp on the trailer. That was the reason for the trailer assist not to be available…. I will say I had the opportunity to try trailer assist the other day at the boat launch on a 60+ meter ramp, and after trailering for years have NEVER had a more perfect approach, and made it down the ramp perfectly straight in 12 seconds flat. amazing.
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Post by jd on Jul 7, 2020 16:02:28 GMT
So, when some one has time, could they post the process for adaptions and coding MA in a US car, all in one post? Sorry but it is difficult to follow the process correctly across so many posts. I alos have PA already.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2020 16:13:54 GMT
So, when some one has time, could they post the process for adaptions and coding MA in a US car, all in one post? Sorry but it is difficult to follow the process correctly across so many posts. I alos have PA already. Hi there, Are you sure you have the PA (Park Assist)? What year and car do you have?
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Post by jd on Jul 7, 2020 16:53:07 GMT
So, when some one has time, could they post the process for adaptions and coding MA in a US car, all in one post? Sorry but it is difficult to follow the process correctly across so many posts. I alos have PA already. Hi there, Are you sure you have the PA (Park Assist)? What year and car do you have? 2019 Audi A6.
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Post by matt on Jul 7, 2020 17:07:12 GMT
Hi there, Are you sure you have the PA (Park Assist)? What year and car do you have? 2019 Audi A6. If this is the park assist (parallel and perpendicular) would you be willing to share your coding for modules 09, 13, 17, 44, 46, 5F, A5? Would be extremely useful in helping us figure out how to code this.
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Post by jd on Jul 7, 2020 17:09:28 GMT
If this is the park assist (parallel and perpendicular) would you be willing to share your coding for modules 09, 13, 17, 44, 46, 5F, A5? Would be extremely useful in helping us figure out how to code this. I may be confused here. i am going on what my salesman told me , what I think you are referring to is what I thought was Parking Assistant Plus.
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Post by matt on Jul 7, 2020 17:24:57 GMT
If this is the park assist (parallel and perpendicular) would you be willing to share your coding for modules 09, 13, 17, 44, 46, 5F, A5? Would be extremely useful in helping us figure out how to code this. I may be confused here. i am going on what my salesman told me , what I think you are referring to is what I thought was Parking Assistant Plus. The park assist I think we are looking for here is the automatic park where you tap the P button and it will take over steering to parallel or perpendicular park
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Post by ustolle on Jul 7, 2020 17:54:27 GMT
Hi there, Are you sure you have the PA (Park Assist)? What year and car do you have? 2019 Audi A6. The below coding for Maneuvering assistant is working on my Audi A6 year 2019 (Model 2020) Europe. I dont think that there is any difference in the coding for this function between the US and Eu models. STG 09 > Adaptation: MAS12843-Maneuvering brake function,activated ,1 STG 44 > coding > Byte 02 > Bit 1 auf "Maneuvering assistant,0=not active / 1=active" STG A5 > Coding > Byte 44 > Bit 5 auf "MA_sterring,active" STG A5 > Coding > Byte 44 > Bit 6 auf "MA_breaking,active" STG A5 > Coding > Byte 44 > Bit 7 auf "MA_maneuver_assist,installed" STG 19 > Parking assist > coded STG 03 > Coding > Byte 10 - Bit 0 - Activate STG 03 > Coding > Byte 24 - Bit 7 - Activate Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104) has to be coded in as pair. Meaning you have to code/set byet10 & Byte24 at the same time. Or the coding will be rejected Someone was getting an error in module 17-instrument. (invalid coding) this was solved by coding : STG 17 > Coding > Byte 14 - Bit 4 - "intelligent_park_assist,Yes" As Matt mentioned, if you have the park assist/Parking Assistant Plus function available “steering wheel with a P” on the screen. It would be extremely useful if you could share your coding for modules 09, 13, 17, 44, 46, 5F, A5 . To help us figure out the needed coding for that function
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Post by stoikij on Jul 7, 2020 19:23:18 GMT
In A6 2020 with working MA is installed a adaptive cruise?
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Post by eddlund on Jul 7, 2020 20:13:21 GMT
Now that I activated module 17, I have the same issue as eddlund ... MA works (w/o brakes) and I have an alert "PA dysfunction" Any idea of what to do to solve this? I'll will remove all my changes, I think this MA coding is generating for me more troubles than the gain expected... I hope you'll find a way to have a way to a standard and universal coding of it soon, Good Luck ! Were you able to reset this? I got error messages with both sos-call and auto-start/stop after resetting..
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Post by jd on Jul 7, 2020 20:59:17 GMT
I'll will remove all my changes, I think this MA coding is generating for me more troubles than the gain expected... I hope you'll find a way to have a way to a standard and universal coding of it soon, Good Luck ! Were you able to reset this? I got error messages with both sos-call and auto-start/stop after resetting.. As to the SOS call error, that may have nothing to do with the coding but could be a coincidence. That is a large well known problem with Audi’s. I get it often. It is a thing that happens when you get into a weak cell coverage area. Audi and AT&T have been pointing fingers at each other for a few years now.
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Post by jd on Jul 7, 2020 23:16:22 GMT
Just to add to the confusion (all mine), I can not find an Audi model that currently has it. I figured that if any model would, it would be the A8. So I went through the build process of the A8 and it did not have it, at least for the US. Could this be an assist that is still being worked on by Audi that isn’t ready for prime time?
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Post by davedavez on Jul 7, 2020 23:39:41 GMT
Were you able to reset this? I got error messages with both sos-call and auto-start/stop after resetting.. As to the SOS call error, that may have nothing to do with the coding but could be a coincidence. That is a large well known problem with Audi’s. I get it often. It is a thing that happens when you get into a weak cell coverage area. Audi and AT&T have been pointing fingers at each other for a few years now. Are you referring to the pop up when you start the car that says "emergency SOS not available" and the icon at the bottom of the dash? That's not the call for help system, it's the emergency assist system that will stop the car if you're incapacitated. I had the same error and couldn't clear it. I already had an appt at the dealer for the service campaigns, so I left it for them. When they reflashed A5 with the update, it cleared. Another member here suggested disconnecting the battery for 5 mins and seeing if that clears it.
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Post by matt on Jul 7, 2020 23:40:11 GMT
Just to add to the confusion (all mine), I can not find an Audi model that currently has it. I figured that if any model would, it would be the A8. So I went through the build process of the A8 and it did not have it, at least for the US. Could this be an assist that is still being worked on by Audi that isn’t ready for prime time? I think it’s only in certain countries. As per this it seems to be on the A8 in certain countries and seems to work in tandem with area view
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Post by rafsan on Jul 8, 2020 6:28:37 GMT
Were you able to reset this? I got error messages with both sos-call and auto-start/stop after resetting.. As to the SOS call error, that may have nothing to do with the coding but could be a coincidence. That is a large well known problem with Audi’s. I get it often. It is a thing that happens when you get into a weak cell coverage area. Audi and AT&T have been pointing fingers at each other for a few years now. Hi, I did not performed changes yet, but what you say is worrying me... I suppose I'll do it next weekend, i'll keep you informed.
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Post by andreask on Jul 8, 2020 20:29:34 GMT
Good news regarding the remaining coding for Maneuvering assist So far I have used the coding from this post, which has been working fine, just without the brake function. (Thanks to Karlis for the initial finding) Seems like I found the missing bytes in the Address 03: ABS Brakes module So far I have teste the Brake function with a cardboard box for the front and rear brake function, Both working. Below is my complete coding including the 03 module. STG 09 > Adaptation: MAS12843-Maneuvering brake function,activated ,1 STG 44 > coding > Byte 02 > Bit 1 auf "Maneuvering assistant,0=not active / 1=active" STG A5 > Coding > Byte 44 > Bit 5 auf "MA_sterring,active" STG A5 > Coding > Byte 44 > Bit 6 auf "MA_breaking,active" STG A5 > Coding > Byte 44 > Bit 7 auf "MA_maneuver_assist,installed" STG 19 > Parking assist > coded STG 03 > Coding > Byte 10 - Bit 0 - Activate STG 03 > Coding > Byte 24 - Bit 7 - Activate NOTE! Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104) has to be coded as a pair. Meaning you have to code/set byet10 & Byte24 at the same time, Or the coding will be rejected. Since they are a mirror of each. Module 03 - Before coding Byte 10: 01001000 Byte 24: 00010010 Module 03 - After coding Byte 10: 01001001 Byte 24: 10010010 I did the coding with VCDS but should be no problem with OBD11… Hi! This is really cool. Wondering if anyone managed to code/write both byte 10 and 24 at the same time with obd11..? Cannot figure that one out. I seem only able to write one byte at a time..
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Post by matt on Jul 8, 2020 20:46:16 GMT
Good news regarding the remaining coding for Maneuvering assist So far I have used the coding from this post, which has been working fine, just without the brake function. (Thanks to Karlis for the initial finding) Seems like I found the missing bytes in the Address 03: ABS Brakes module So far I have teste the Brake function with a cardboard box for the front and rear brake function, Both working. Below is my complete coding including the 03 module. STG 09 > Adaptation: MAS12843-Maneuvering brake function,activated ,1 STG 44 > coding > Byte 02 > Bit 1 auf "Maneuvering assistant,0=not active / 1=active" STG A5 > Coding > Byte 44 > Bit 5 auf "MA_sterring,active" STG A5 > Coding > Byte 44 > Bit 6 auf "MA_breaking,active" STG A5 > Coding > Byte 44 > Bit 7 auf "MA_maneuver_assist,installed" STG 19 > Parking assist > coded STG 03 > Coding > Byte 10 - Bit 0 - Activate STG 03 > Coding > Byte 24 - Bit 7 - Activate NOTE! Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104) has to be coded as a pair. Meaning you have to code/set byet10 & Byte24 at the same time, Or the coding will be rejected. Since they are a mirror of each. Module 03 - Before coding Byte 10: 01001000 Byte 24: 00010010 Module 03 - After coding Byte 10: 01001001 Byte 24: 10010010 I did the coding with VCDS but should be no problem with OBD11… Hi! This is really cool. Wondering if anyone managed to code/write both byte 10 and 24 at the same time with obd11..? Cannot figure that one out. I seem only able to write one byte at a time.. I would think you might be able to determine what each byte value would look like after making the bit changes, then simply code the whole hex string for the module at once? Potentially there is an easier way
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Post by andreask on Jul 8, 2020 21:05:41 GMT
Hi! This is really cool. Wondering if anyone managed to code/write both byte 10 and 24 at the same time with obd11..? Cannot figure that one out. I seem only able to write one byte at a time.. I would think you might be able to determine what each byte value would look like after making the bit changes, then simply code the whole hex string for the module at once? Potentially there is an easier way Thanks Matt, yes that’s probably a way.. is it possible to se the new byte value without doing the actual writing? Could it be fairly straightforward just to write each byte, notice each of hex-changes (though the first would revert back I guess) and build the full module hex and write that module.. or would a change in one byte-hex impact several others potentially..?
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Post by andreask on Jul 8, 2020 22:42:33 GMT
Think I got it! But the assumption has to be that there are no other bytes being affected by these changes in 10 and 24 (like how you say they mirror each other), then in theory I should be able to code the whole 03 brake module as follows:
STG 03 HEX before:
24 AA 32 96 31 A3 0B 98 D3 A3 4C 96 18 7E D6 E2 F5 BA C9 24 4C 8C D0 CB 32 18 6B 47 AF 5D 93
Byte 10 = 01001100 = 4C
Byte 24 = 00110010 = 32
Updating bit 0 in Byte 10 and bit 7 in Byte 24 according to previous posts renders:
Byte 10 = 01001101 = HEX = 4D
Byte 24 = 10110010 = HEX = B2
(Note, my original setup/coding in these bytes was not like yours)
Resulting in the whole module 03 HEX as:
24 AA 32 96 31 A3 0B 98 D3 A3 4D 96 18 7E D6 E2 F5 BA C9 24 4C 8C D0 CB B2 18 6B 47 AF 5D 93
Would you go for it? Just worried that I might get issues reverting back for some strange reason if it does not work.
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Post by matt on Jul 8, 2020 22:46:01 GMT
Think I got it! But the assumption has to be that there are no other bytes being affected by these changes in 10 and 24 (like how you say they mirror each other), then in theory I should be able to code the whole 03 brake module as follows: STG 03 HEX before: 24 AA 32 96 31 A3 0B 98 D3 A3 4C 96 18 7E D6 E2 F5 BA C9 24 4C 8C D0 CB 32 18 6B 47 AF 5D 93 Byte 10 = 01001100 = 4C Byte 24 = 00110010 = 32 Updating bit 0 in Byte 10 and bit 7 in Byte 24 according to previous posts renders: Byte 10 = 0100110 1 = HEX = 4DByte 24 = 10110010 = HEX = B2
(Note, my original setup/coding in these bytes was not like yours) Resulting in the whole module 03 HEX as: 24 AA 32 96 31 A3 0B 98 D3 A3 4D 96 18 7E D6 E2 F5 BA C9 24 4C 8C D0 CB B2 18 6B 47 AF 5D 93 Would you go for it? Just worried that I might get issues reverting back for some strange reason if it does not work. That looks reasonable. As long as you back up the code beforehand you “shouldn’t” have an issue reverting. I would do it but I definitely take more risks than others.
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Post by andreask on Jul 8, 2020 23:21:49 GMT
After activating in module 17 it now steers and it solved the issue, remember to push the speed holder away. But doesn’t brake, tried bit 7 in byte 10 and bit 0 in byte 24 as you guys, but the same problem. It shows contact workshop when it should brake.. I still have enabled parking assist in 19. This is what the first guy wrote but it seems as your output of the bits shows the opposite ? STG 03 > Coding > Byte 10 - Bit 0 - Activate STG 03 > Coding > Byte 24 - Bit 7 - Activate You might have done the same mistake I was about to do... the binarys is counted backwards/bottom up in OBD11.. So changing bit 0 from 0-1 would render a change in the last digit in the binary code. See the long coding instructions here: forum.obdeleven.com/thread/102/long-coding, which states: "To read this you go from Right to Left, where 1 = a tick and 0 = Blank. Therefore you should expect to see on the screen the following Number is 11100011 BIT 0 = Tick 1 BIT 1 = Tick 1 BIT 2 = Blank 0 BIT 3 = Blank 0 BIT 4 = Blank 0 BIT 5 = Tick 1 BIT 6 = Tick 1 BIT 7 = Tick 1 Remember you read the number starting at the right hand side which will equal the first number on the Long Coding Screen."
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Post by andreask on Jul 8, 2020 23:32:28 GMT
Think I got it! But the assumption has to be that there are no other bytes being affected by these changes in 10 and 24 (like how you say they mirror each other), then in theory I should be able to code the whole 03 brake module as follows: STG 03 HEX before: 24 AA 32 96 31 A3 0B 98 D3 A3 4C 96 18 7E D6 E2 F5 BA C9 24 4C 8C D0 CB 32 18 6B 47 AF 5D 93 Byte 10 = 01001100 = 4C Byte 24 = 00110010 = 32 Updating bit 0 in Byte 10 and bit 7 in Byte 24 according to previous posts renders: Byte 10 = 0100110 1 = HEX = 4DByte 24 = 10110010 = HEX = B2
(Note, my original setup/coding in these bytes was not like yours) Resulting in the whole module 03 HEX as: 24 AA 32 96 31 A3 0B 98 D3 A3 4D 96 18 7E D6 E2 F5 BA C9 24 4C 8C D0 CB B2 18 6B 47 AF 5D 93 Would you go for it? Just worried that I might get issues reverting back for some strange reason if it does not work. That looks reasonable. As long as you back up the code beforehand you “shouldn’t” have an issue reverting. I would do it but I definitely take more risks than others. Yeah, I most probably will as well. Made a full backup of codings and adaptations earlier today . Matt, since you skilled guys already are thinking of the AI button, does it mean you already got the "normal" parking assist working? Parking inbetween cars, both parallel and curbside? Or are you stumbling on the physical button even for the "good old" park assist w/o hands?
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