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Post by crunch81 on Dec 17, 2019 20:05:05 GMT
Good day!!
I have retrofitted mib2. First I could not control driving modes for my E-Golf. Then I reset to default in Green Menu and driving modes are working now. But now carplay is not working anymore.
I read in a DIY retrofit MIB2 this:
“Also verify byte 19 is set for USB iPhone fully functionality.”
This is what I need to do to change my USB back to compatible with carplay,
But HOW do I do this?
Searching for days now...
Thanks in advance.
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Post by crunch81 on Dec 18, 2019 5:25:58 GMT
I already did this, carplay has worked before.
Thanks for you reaction though.
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Post by crunch81 on Dec 18, 2019 9:03:10 GMT
Hello adrian,
Thanks for taking the time to help me!
What do you mean with the first part about USB. Do you mean physical change or do I need to recode usb to mib2 in the software?
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Post by crunch81 on Dec 18, 2019 11:28:31 GMT
Hello adrian, Thanks for taking the time to help me! What do you mean with the first part about USB. Do you mean physical change or do I need to recode usb to mib2 in the software?
Hi The USB port cannot be encoded to Mib2; You need a USB port Mib2, that is, the hardware, you have to change it physically. This is the USB Mib2 with its serial number: 5G0 035 222E
Posteriormente codificas el puerto USB a "Full", como te he dicho;
If you want to change the USB to "full mode"
- Control units
- Unit 5F - Information Electronics - Multimedia
- Extended Coding
-byte_19_USB = full
Thank you!! USB port is already changed to the right one.
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Post by newty on Dec 18, 2019 14:00:07 GMT
Mine is set to "usb_ipod" for Carplay and AA. Heard some days ago that this is mandatory. (For PR-Codes UI2 or UI4) "Full" only activates basic USB Communication (PR-Code UE4)
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Post by crunch81 on Dec 18, 2019 15:18:27 GMT
Mine is set to "usb_ipod" for Carplay and AA. Heard some days ago that this is mandatory. (For PR-Codes UI2 or UI4) "Full" only activates basic USB Communication (PR-Code UE4) What does pr-code ui2 or ui4 mean?
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Post by crunch81 on Dec 18, 2019 17:03:10 GMT
Thanks guys, it worked!! It was Usb-Ipod
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Post by newty on Dec 18, 2019 18:29:41 GMT
Glad that worked out.
I have UI4 equipped (Extern, Aux-In, USB Typ-A, 1x USB Buchse), having ipod coded and use AndroidAuto every day. So that should be correct.
Edit copy from an etka ripoff: (1) 5Q0035726G USB-Buchse 1 PR-UE4 UE4 - Elektrische Schnittstelle für externe Nutzung, AUX-IN und USB (1) 5Q0035726E USB-Buchse 1 PR-UI4 UI4 - Elektrische Schnittstelle für externe Nutzung, AUX-IN, USB ( iPod-fähig ) (1) 5Q0035726 USB-Buchse 1 PR-UI2 UI2 - Elektrische Schnittstelle für externe Nutzung, AUX-IN und 2 x USB
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Post by newty on Dec 18, 2019 19:47:32 GMT
Never heard of workshops being tolerated to do more than GFS and action codes with MIBs...
Still: All manuals found are for ipod (byte 19, bit 7 and 8 enabled) this worked here and is default in mib2high
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Post by newty on Dec 18, 2019 21:52:36 GMT
Yep. Wasn't able to count correctly, not every System starts to count at bit 0. Let it be 6 and 7 then, does not really matter. I do not know what "Mod" now is bringing this discussion forward. I did not play that card.
I just sweeped through some scans, just to make sure: Everything Ipod, including the cars with Appconnect from factory.
Lets know close this: his unit is working, so are yours obviously
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Post by electricgolf on Feb 10, 2020 10:54:11 GMT
Hi i've just got a brand new eGolf in ITaly with Discover Media base infotainment (is that an already MIB2 based unit?)
when i press the App-connect key, it says i need to get to my dealer and "purchase" the code to activate..
the Dealer anyway looks like he does not know really how the procedure works..
as i'm reading here and there about thie App-connect "SWaP" code one can buy online looking for VW part 5G0054830A, i'm wondeing if i can do the "legal" enabling on my own..
let me tell you i've already got an OBDeleven PRO packet and i already connected it to my CAN bus, scanned, backupped and changed for test the unit 5f to enable the AM together with DAB and FM radio bands (not very useful as there's no AM antenna, i suppose, so no stations are received! :-) )
as i've seen already this byte 19 about USB and it's currently configured as usb-ipod (but the usb-full selection is present too..)
i saw also in the "basic" service menu that the "app-connect" FEC code is present but not enabled..
now my questions are: * how can i check if the infotainment HW is really a MIB2 and if the USB slot in ashtray is already a good one for app-connect? * is the above SWaP app-connect code working for an eGolf, anyone tried? i can spend the 200€ to grab a code, but is that legal? * is the trip to the dealer for the ODIS procedure mandatory or i can get away with some OBDeleven trickery?
sorry if these are newbie question, but as i see lots of info here and there on the web, i did not found a comprehensive recap, and this could be the good time. i see some clueful people here! :-)
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Post by vwjap on Feb 10, 2020 11:11:00 GMT
Anything SWaP is done by licensed Odis peeps, (Indy mechanics can also do it that’s why I didn’t say dealers) but it looks as though a lot of these people don’t know how to do most of it, if your car didn’t come with CarPlay then the USB port will be the wrong one and would need to be replaced, Again obdeleven cannot do SWaP
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Post by electricgolf on Feb 10, 2020 11:29:17 GMT
thanx for the very quick reply..
if only ODIS people can do the procedure, i'm wondering why this SW activation packet 5G0054830A is being sold online.. are these Indy people unable to buy official codes from VW, or is there some saving to be done. who knows?
anyway the worst notice is about the USB port to be replaced. having to do some HW mod after-market is going to be more expensive on the "people working time bill" side.. :-) is see the kit online and it's just a 60€ but again how much they are going to bill for the install time..
do you know what's the difference between the two USB ports? i cannot believe there's so much saving to be done going with different parts on VW side!
thanx
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Post by electricgolf on Feb 10, 2020 12:50:03 GMT
Hi - If you want to activate the App-Connect, you have to do it in an official service by paying the SWAP code. It can only be encoded with ODIS. (Not with OBD11) - If you want the USB port for App-Connet to work, it must be configured as USB-iPOD - The Mib2 USB connector code is: 5G0 035 222 E. It is easy to take out the one you have and check it. - When you scan with OBD11, you will see the 5F unit (Infotainment), select information, and you will see the unit codes; With the code you will know what model it is. For example 3G0035020B, it is a Discover Pro Mib2 with DAB. Greetings.
thanx Adrian for the added info.
the 5G0 035 222 E looks like a part number (on ebay) with both USB and AUX in to be installed in the glove shelf side by side with the CD/SDcard unit..
my only USB port is in the ASH tray, anyway i'll check if it's easy to dismantle (without breaking..) just to check the code on the part..
and i'll go checking the info data about unit 5F. that's great to know for sure what i have onboard..
BTW i have an issue on enabling the "green developer menu" too, but that's for another post properly named (if i do not find the answer already..)
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Post by vwjap on Feb 10, 2020 13:15:41 GMT
The difference between the ports is how they are wired, I presume the non CarPlay has v+ and v- whereas the CarPlay ones also have data in and data out
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Post by electricgolf on Feb 10, 2020 13:29:18 GMT
The difference between the ports is how they are wired, I presume the non CarPlay has v+ and v- whereas the CarPlay ones also have data in and data out
uhu,
if i can put my USB memory key to read audio files from filesystem, i suppose the "physical wires" D+/D- for data connection are there..
i could just think an HW issue like the Stock USB port is really only USB1.1 (full speed 12Mbps) good, and the "car play" to be a high speed USB2.0 (480Mps) port (on different pins in the back of the head unit, of course.. on the USB interface the pins are the same..)
but that kind of HW hacks used to be $$ sensitive at least 10 years ago.. or with very "cost compressed" HW, like cheap micro-controller..
in a modern infotainment like this one, i do not think they need to save SO much! but one never knows..
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Post by vwjap on Feb 10, 2020 14:54:18 GMT
Could be that (or usb 3 now) vw are getting cheap nowadays with the stuff they leave off the cars like the under seat storage, and the plastic grommets that hide the wingmirror bolt heads
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Post by electricgolf on Feb 11, 2020 13:46:33 GMT
so AdrianVW,
you say you were able to "enable" the App-connect on a MIB2 infotainment with the stock USB port in the ash tray?
that would be great.
i didn't understand well all the trickery about cutting the flap for the USB cable to be inserted in the head unit... i suppose that's because you had to swap the head unit from MIB1 to MIB2'
let you know! thanx
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Post by electricgolf on Feb 11, 2020 18:39:21 GMT
hello, i checked the unit in the OBD11 unit 5F info tab and it's marked "3q0035874c" looking on the net, i can find this reference matching: www.ebay.it/itm/VW-Discover-Media-Principale-Unita-MIB2-2017-DAB-LWL-Dynaudio-Aid-3Q0035874C-/183210827905indeed i have both DAB and Dynaudio options! so it looks like already a MIB2 based device.. the APP-Connect Dokument code i can purchase on the net is a good one for this device? then i'm seeing the detail your USB connector and how you had to "fix" the tab on the unit end.. i suppose i do not need to do such a mod in my case. then i've seen the ODIS hw/sw is sold too on ebay for a fairly cheap price 150€ or so.. do you think this tool could be helpful for me, or it's better if i get to the Dealer shop to make the SWaP code for App-connect registered in my Discover Media unit?
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Post by electricgolf on Feb 12, 2020 7:07:25 GMT
ah that's good to know..
so if i don't remove the CP (and i do NOT want now, of course..) i need a properly "connected" ODIS SW from a VW dealer or "regular" Indie mechanic
but.. do you think the App-Connect dokument with # 5g0054830a from here is a regular one and can be used by the Dealer
or they usually want me to buy the "code" from them (with their usual mark-up), maybe telling me these on-line codes are fake or stolen ?
i'll have to ask from the Dealer.. i suppose!
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