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Post by diggs on Apr 16, 2020 23:38:07 GMT
hi don , thanx will order some bits , do the connectors on the audi start stop module link from ebay i posted look same as golf
thanx
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Post by davedee on Apr 18, 2020 21:23:45 GMT
They are compatible with Mk7.5 /Audi S3/RS3. They are just plug and play but need to be wired to the stop start wire harness for this function
A group buy is the cheapest way. Retail is $625 inc GST plus freight in AU
Here’s the operation but remember this is primarily for valve flap control
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on Apr 18, 2020 23:38:06 GMT
hi don , thanx will order some bits , do the connectors on the audi start stop module link from ebay i posted look same as golf thanx diggs: My own personal approach when attempting to apply related, but not specific products to a particular car is to be as informed as possible BEFORE committing my hard earned $s!!! This is a copy of one of the pictures from your eBay link: Notice that the connector appears to have 5 x pins Here is my very cut-down version of the wiring diagram for the SS button (for an Audi A3 8V): Notice the detail on the connector for the center switch module that houses the SS button: it has 20 x pins (as indicated by "T20")
I'll leave the conclusion from this comparison to you!!
Don
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Post by diggs on Apr 19, 2020 22:01:24 GMT
hi thanx don and davedee , will oder bits and build own
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Post by diggs on Apr 29, 2020 4:18:48 GMT
hi had the guy sells audi start/stop module from ebay tell me that they work on mk7 vw golf if trim female connector whats yah thoughts
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Post by diggs on Apr 29, 2020 7:05:10 GMT
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on Apr 29, 2020 21:59:15 GMT
^^^diggs: looks promising - but it's a pity that the eBay site doesn't show a picture of the device! Would be better if the buyer saw the physical unit - showing how it is connected to the car. Plug-and-play? Does it have connectors, or just wires (@ $88 - I hope it has connectors)?
Anyhow - if you buy one of these- please tell us your observations.
Don
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Post by diggler1 on Apr 30, 2020 4:19:05 GMT
Hi don apparently it’s the same as Audi one I put in link before
But they trim female connector it’s 100% plug and play
Will order one and inform updates
Thanx
Dirk
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Post by petrs on May 5, 2020 3:01:39 GMT
hi had the guy sells audi start/stop module from ebay tell me that they work on mk7 vw golf if trim female connector whats yah thoughts
thanx
The button on the MLB platform works completely different than most cars. In mlb one microcontroller is responsible for controlling several buttons! I'm also considering buying this for my S5. I bought this for Golf 7.5. This cheaper version requires a connection of three wires, but they also offer a version with a plug&play harness. www.ebay.com/itm/Emulator-Start-Stop-Memory-module-with-SERVICE-MODE-Start-Stop-SSA-memory/223974245071 |
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Post by jozoku1 on May 21, 2020 17:45:18 GMT
Tnx DV52.
I was loocking in the ECU not Gateway.
BR
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Post by ak on Jul 16, 2020 15:04:19 GMT
You can’t change SS on newer cars with obdeleven Confirmed that neither app or voltage limit is working on my mk7.5 2020. BUT There is another trick that doesn't cost anything. 1) locate car battery 2) locate a small plug (2 wire pins)that connected to battery 3) disconnect that plug, and tuck it away. that is the only plug connected to car battery. 4) start-stop will be disabled. Had that disconnected for about 7months, no issues. BUT, you get a warning message that start stop is not working every now and then. Just ignore it or press ok button and it will goes away, no annoying beeping or anything. So i am looking to disable that warning message if anyone is able to help with coding it off. Obd11 scan fault code U105000 in Gateway - Battery monitoring control module. Static Code. Also not sure if this is going to impact the battery life in the future. Do it at your own risk.  Just remember to reconnect it when you bring it in for service. Ak |
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Post by slider09 on Jul 16, 2020 20:26:56 GMT
The best solution is Autowatch Ghost.
This can reprogram the stop start to work as if it’s reversed. So it’s OFF by default, push the button to turn it ON.
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on Jul 16, 2020 20:45:37 GMT
hmmm.......... you are not the first to have discovered this method but I would suggest that the short term gain (being the removal of SS) does indeed come with a long term cost. For your method to work without affecting any other facility in the car, the Battery monitor control module (it's called J367)would need to do nothing else but SS. This is not the case! J367 is involved in measuring the battery condition for a host of other purposes including providing data to the car for the calculation for the alternator charging profile - which changes with age, usage and condition. The car stores the complete battery history - meaning that it monitors every ampere that either leaves the battery, or is injected into the battery (i.e. by the alternator, or by the recuperation system). This data is used over the life cycle for the battery to optimize its longevity. It's J367 that is does much of the data provision for this data and disconnecting the module WILL impact battery life-alas. I hate SS with a vengeance; I think it's the most dangerous facility in a car and I want it removed from any car that I drive - but I wouldn't suggest that J367 is removed because of the long term consequences. Install a automated switch instead Don |
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Post by ak on Jul 17, 2020 9:44:10 GMT
hmmm.......... you are not the first to have discovered this method but I would suggest that the short term gain (being the removal of SS) does indeed come with a long term cost. For your method to work without affecting any other facility in the car, the Battery monitor control module (it's called J367)would need to do nothing else but SS. This is not the case! J367 is involved in measuring the battery condition for a host of other purposes including providing data to the car for the calculation for the alternator charging profile - which changes with age, usage and condition. The car stores the complete battery history - meaning that it monitors every ampere that either leaves the battery, or is injected into the battery (i.e. by the alternator, or by the recuperation system). This data is used over the life cycle for the battery to optimize its longevity. It's J367 that is does much of the data provision for this data and disconnecting the module WILL impact battery life-alas. I hate SS with a vengeance; I think it's the most dangerous facility in a car and I want it removed from any car that I drive - but I wouldn't suggest that J367 is removed because of the long term consequences. Install a automated switch instead Don Thanks Don, There is a kill switch on eBay for MK7 www.ebay.com.au/itm/CMT-Auto-Start-Stop-Memory-Module-for-Volkswagen-Golf-MK7-Always-Turn-On-or-Off/324163637089?Is this what you are referring to? Regards, ak |
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Post by cjn on Jul 17, 2020 10:04:23 GMT
The best solution is Autowatch Ghost. This can reprogram the stop start to work as if it’s reversed. So it’s OFF by default, push the button to turn it ON. I'll second that option, and you also get a rather effective immobiliser! |
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on Jul 17, 2020 21:27:03 GMT
yes - the device in your link should work - but $88 AUD seems a tad expensive - there are alternative eBay links further up on this page too Don The best solution is Autowatch Ghost. This can reprogram the stop start to work as if it’s reversed. So it’s OFF by default, push the button to turn it ON. I'll second that option, and you also get a rather effective immobiliser! hmm........... probably works OK - but geeze it's expensive!! The eBay devices also can be programmed "as if it's reversed" Don |
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Post by cjn on Jul 18, 2020 20:44:23 GMT
I'll second that option, and you also get a rather effective immobiliser! hmm........... probably works OK - but geeze it's expensive!! The eBay devices also can be programmed "as if it's reversed" Don Well of course, as it's fundamentally an immobiliser. For a very nickable motor like the R it makes a lot of sense to me. |
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Post by ak on Jul 20, 2020 5:28:40 GMT
I have purchase the "kill switch", it is actually a memory module which can be configured into 3 modes.
It piggy back against the existing harness. Original Harness Plug -> Memory Module "kill-switch" -> Existing S/S button.
Does anyone have an instruction on how to remove the S/S button (bar) or gear-knob cover? thanks in-advanced.
Also, the car behaves a bit odd, a couple of night ago, when the car is warmed up after 15km travel, i changed the Stop/start voltage limit to 12.1v.
then driving home, and S/S was not disabled.
Today, I took the car out for some take-way, and S/S is disabled because the "Vehicle is using high level of voltages...something like that, can't remember the exact words".
I have dash-cam wired on 24/7 with low voltage cut-off, could this be the reason that S/S was being disabled because the Battery required charging to top up what the dash-cam have used in past couple of days? but regardless i have already purchased the switch.
ak
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on Jul 20, 2020 5:50:31 GMT
I have purchase the "kill switch", it is actually a memory module which can be configured into 3 modes. It piggy back against the existing harness. Original Harness Plug -> Memory Module "kill-switch" -> Existing S/S button. Does anyone have an instruction on how to remove the S/S button (bar) or gear-knob cover? thanks in-advanced. Also, the car behaves a bit odd, a couple of night ago, when the car is warmed up after 15km travel, i changed the Stop/start voltage limit to 12.1v. then driving home, and S/S was not disabled. Today, I took the car out for some take-way, and S/S is disabled because the "Vehicle is using high level of voltages...something like that, can't remember the exact words". I have dash-cam wired on 24/7 with low voltage cut-off, could this be the reason that S/S was being disabled because the Battery required charging to top up what the dash-cam have used in past couple of days? but regardless i have already purchased the switch. ak ak: Here's a video of how to remove the gear-knob gaiter and the switch banks
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Post by laonex on Sept 2, 2020 7:40:01 GMT
Hello together, i just purchased a odbeleven kit. i sucessfully disabled the SS "feature" of my car. i used the in app "APP" the one klick one. i was wondering now what it did. did it do the describet voltage setting or additionaly someting else? its kind of a black box, wouzld be nice to know what happened.
thank you very much
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andreas
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2020 8:08:13 GMT
laonex the one click apps are black box but if you want to see what has changed then you need to do a full backup before applying the fix, then do another after the fix and compare the two. In your case there are two ways of doing it so it should be easy just to look at the specific settings. If the once click app does any Long Coding changes then they will show up in your history as well so those changes are easy to see. Hope that helps.
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Post by laonex on Sept 2, 2020 11:24:09 GMT
@testeronline thank you i think i got it. i checked it and found something. looks like the temperature method.
the full backup method and deaktivation and aktivation is a good hint will use that next time for sure, if i would use an app, thanks also to that.
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Post by magookebler on Feb 14, 2021 4:06:54 GMT
Does any one know if OBD eleven is going to be working on why the Start/stop function adaptations don't work on 2020 Mk7.5?
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on Feb 14, 2021 7:04:09 GMT
magookebler: Not likely - I suspect!! OBD11 sells diagnostic cables and they support user forums like this. Their one-clip Apps (at least for new Apps) are created by responding to requests made by users who must also supply the underlying instruction-set. So OBD11 simply turns user supplied instructions into software code. AFAIK (and I'm more than happy to be corrected), OBD11 doesn't develop brand new Apps that have not previously been proven by users - or if they do, its a very low priority (I think) Don
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Post by pickie on Mar 23, 2021 15:27:32 GMT
2019 Golf R managed to get start stop disabled with changing SS voltage to 12.1 , though i have observed my battery is only reading 11.9-12 when the engine is running which is odd as id expect 13 while charging, so i guess if you got a good altinator and good battery then youl prob see 12.1 or more, not sure why mine is lower ??, but for now its worked, also observed you cant input a value of more than 12.1 ??, if we can somehow get it to apply say 13 or 14 then i guess it would work for all mayby as ive seen some people cant get the voltage change to work , interesting to see if there battery voltage is more than 12.1
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Post by vwjap on Mar 23, 2021 17:01:33 GMT
A charging battery is around 14v, presume 12.1 is the max figure because this would be a good battery with ignition on, but the system is designed to only switch off if the battery is capable of restarting the car so you wouldn’t have the alternator voltage there, so why go above the 12.1 if that’s where the car sits most of the time,
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Post by nimche on Jun 3, 2021 20:39:05 GMT
Still a coding solution to this issue would have been nice. 2020 GTI SE.
It is interesting that changing voltage still shows at 12 but doesn't do anything.
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Post by Biggles1 on Jun 8, 2021 12:58:04 GMT
Hi everyone, yesterday the mail was delivered to me by OBDeleven Pro and today I tried to turn off Start / Stop. You all write that this is not supported, but I am probably successful. I drove the car, the oil was heated to 89 ° C and S / S is not active. The car is G 7.5 (2018)
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Post by 1211198512111985 on Jun 18, 2021 15:40:34 GMT
Golf R 2019 also can't off start/stop with PRO version, but Revo Stage 1 remap fix all 😃, more power and off start/stop
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Post by ottobon100 on Sept 5, 2021 13:11:54 GMT
I have an OBDeleven Pro and the "Start/stop system deactivation" app worked perfectly on my '18 GTI S first time I did it. Stays off. No long coding. I just selected the app.
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