moko1
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Post by moko1 on Jun 4, 2024 8:35:38 GMT
Hello Guys, i have bought a GTI 2023 without Seat Heating . I installed the complete Hardware now, and changed Aircondition Modul configuration into : Seat Heating Front Installed. Display is now showing me both front Heating options and i am able to switch on-off. But the seats are not heating up. I am sure i forgot something to code as well. but i not found. Maybe someone here is able to help me ? Thanks a lot Greetings Moko
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brkica
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Post by brkica on Jun 8, 2024 6:35:48 GMT
Not sure, but give a look to channels in 09-Central electrics. Seat ventialation has some coding in there, seat heating as well. Especially regarding temperature regulation and auto turn on/off at certain temperature tresholds.
Central electrics controls the whole car electrical systems so it makes sense that seat heating has to be enabled in there as well.
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tos
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Post by tos on Jun 8, 2024 7:15:35 GMT
I can send copy of my central electric and climatronic backup, there are many adaptation and timer values of seat heating... You can check differences by www.diffchecker.com/ Use your own back up and new and see what is different. I found these from AC control unit backup is from 2021 december, values maybe different: My climatronic unit updated at year ago, so I could save a new backup
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Post by ericsgolf on Nov 17, 2024 22:35:41 GMT
Any update on this? I have the same problem.
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brkica
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Post by brkica on Nov 20, 2024 7:17:14 GMT
Have you checked that your BCM (module 09) supports heated seats? If you have BCM 5WA937086E, J or G, you should be fine. Besides coding the seats in Climate control (08), have you coded the heated seats under BAP adaptation channel in Infotainment (module 5F)?
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Post by ericsgolf on Nov 20, 2024 7:42:26 GMT
Have you checked that your BCM (module 09) supports heated seats? If you have BCM 5WA937086E, J or G, you should be fine. Besides coding the seats in Climate control (08), have you coded the heated seats under BAP adaptation channel in Infotainment (module 5F)? Hi, no i havnt checked my BCM, but its a 2023 style with a dew other options like better headlights, also has folding mirrors and other thingd so assumed it would be fine. I also have not touched BCM, the retrofit plugs into the climate control module (the module had the pins suitable for heated seats) and then enabled heated seats in climate module (08) which has automatically made the icons show up on the screen. Apart from ticking the one box, i have not done any coding in module 5F, or BCM Thanks
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brkica
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Post by brkica on Nov 20, 2024 7:54:39 GMT
I can send you my backup of 08 with FHS out from factory for you to take a look at. Give me a couple of minutes...
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Post by ericsgolf on Nov 20, 2024 8:01:24 GMT
I can send you my backup of 08 with FHS out from factory for you to take a look at. Give me a couple of minutes... Thanks, does that mean I must need to go into my 08 module and change everything to match yours? I see someone else above has posted a back up with heated seats and it has 15+ settings, do i need to manually edit all of those do you think? I can't find anything to change in 09 or 5F for heated seats either.
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brkica
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Post by brkica on Nov 22, 2024 16:03:40 GMT
Here is my coding and adaptations. As a first, I would check that coding and adaptations relevant to seat heating match. I would not change all values at first, just those relevant to seat heating:
Backup
Control unit: 08 Air Conditioning
System description: Climatronic
Software number: 5WA907727BC
Software version: 0462
Hardware number: 5WA907727P
Hardware version: H02
Serial number: --------------------
ODX name: EV_ACClimaBHBVW38X
ODX version: 005069
Backup name: Air Conditioning
Long coding:
002010019111121010100010111011111000131100200000000000000000
Adaptations:
Blower voltage for production routines:
---:
6.0 V
Interior target temperature for production routines:
---:
22.0 °C
Air distribution for production routines:
---:
No effect
Recirculation air for production routines:
---:
No effect
Speed switch-off threshold for compressor run-in (engine speed):
---:
1500 l/min
Runtime for compressor run-in basic setting:
---:
60.0 s
Retention of driver's seat heater level:
---:
active for 10 minutes
Retention of frt.pass. seat heater level:
---:
not active
Time until heated seat power withdrawal stage 3 to stage 2:
---:
3 min
Time until heated seat power withdrawal stage 2 to stage 1:
---:
10.0 min
Time until heated head area power withdrawal stage 3 to stage 2:
---:
0.0 min
Time until heated head area power withdrawal stage 2 to stage 1:
---:
0.0 min
Post-heating of parking heater:
---:
10.0 min
After-run of parking heater or parking ventilation:
---:
activated
Retrofitting of parking heater without CAN:
---:
not installed
Stop release for start-stop function:
---:
According to function requirements
Ignore compressor switch-off by Engine Control Module:
---:
Do not ignore
Blower voltage for voice operation:
---:
Not activated
Gear ratio of engine - A/C compressor:
---:
1.3
Duration of compressor run in:
---:
60 s
Head area heater:
Fan speed:
0
Vent temperature:
0
Left seat cushion fan 1:
Overvoltage_treshold:
16.0 V
Undervoltage_treshold:
9.0 V
Hysteresis_Treshold_For_Undervoltage:
5.0 V
Counter_For_Blockage_Validation:
5.0 counts
Latency_For_Blockage_Validation:
5.0 s
Maximum_Blower_Rotation_Speed:
1500 1/min
Minimum_Blower_Rotation_Speed:
200 1/min
Critical_Temperature_Treshold:
70.0 °C
Right seat cushion fan 1:
Overvoltage_treshold:
16.0 V
Undervoltage_treshold:
9.0 V
Hysteresis_Treshold_For_Undervoltage:
5.0 V
Counter_For_Blockage_Validation:
5.0 counts
Latency_For_Blockage_Validation:
5.0 s
Maximum_Blower_Rotation_Speed:
1500 1/min
Minimum_Blower_Rotation_Speed:
200 1/min
Critical_Temperature_Treshold:
70.0 °C
Left seat backrest fan 1:
Overvoltage_treshold:
16.0 V
Undervoltage_treshold:
9.0 V
Hysteresis_Treshold_For_Undervoltage:
5.0 V
Counter_For_Blockage_Validation:
5.0 counts
Latency_For_Blockage_Validation:
5.0 s
Maximum_Blower_Rotation_Speed:
1500 1/min
Minimum_Blower_Rotation_Speed:
200 1/min
Critical_Temperature_Treshold:
70.0 °C
Right seat backrest fan 1:
Overvoltage_treshold:
16.0 V
Undervoltage_treshold:
9.0 V
Hysteresis_Treshold_For_Undervoltage:
5.0 V
Counter_For_Blockage_Validation:
5.0 counts
Latency_For_Blockage_Validation:
5.0 s
Maximum_Blower_Rotation_Speed:
1500 1/min
Minimum_Blower_Rotation_Speed:
200 1/min
Critical_Temperature_Treshold:
70.0 °C
Reset_Blower_1_Cushion_Left:
---:
not active
Reset_Blower_1_Backrest_Left:
---:
not active
Reset_Blower_1_Backrest_Right:
---:
not active
Reset_Blower_1_Cushion_Right:
---:
not active
Left seat cushion fan 2:
Overvoltage_treshold:
16.0 V
Undervoltage_treshold:
9.0 V
Hysteresis_Treshold_For_Undervoltage:
5.0 V
Counter_For_Blockage_Validation:
5.0 counts
Latency_For_Blockage_Validation:
5.0 s
Maximum_Blower_Rotation_Speed:
1500 1/min
Minimum_Blower_Rotation_Speed:
200 1/min
Critical_Temperature_Treshold:
70.0 °C
Right seat cushion fan 2:
Overvoltage_treshold:
16.0 V
Undervoltage_treshold:
9.0 V
Hysteresis_Treshold_For_Undervoltage:
5.0 V
Counter_For_Blockage_Validation:
5.0 counts
Latency_For_Blockage_Validation:
5.0 s
Maximum_Blower_Rotation_Speed:
1500 1/min
Minimum_Blower_Rotation_Speed:
200 1/min
Critical_Temperature_Treshold:
70.0 °C
Right seat backrest fan 2:
Overvoltage_treshold:
16.0 V
Undervoltage_treshold:
9.0 V
Hysteresis_Treshold_For_Undervoltage:
5.0 V
Counter_For_Blockage_Validation:
5.0 counts
Latency_For_Blockage_Validation:
5.0 s
Maximum_Blower_Rotation_Speed:
1500 1/min
Minimum_Blower_Rotation_Speed:
200 1/min
Critical_Temperature_Treshold:
70.0 °C
Left seat backrest fan 2:
Overvoltage_treshold:
16.0 V
Undervoltage_treshold:
9.0 V
Hysteresis_Treshold_For_Undervoltage:
5.0 V
Counter_For_Blockage_Validation:
5.0 counts
Latency_For_Blockage_Validation:
5.0 s
Maximum_Blower_Rotation_Speed:
1500 1/min
Minimum_Blower_Rotation_Speed:
200 1/min
Critical_Temperature_Treshold:
70.0 °C
Reset_Blower_2_Cushion_Left:
---:
not active
Reset_Blower_2_Cushion_Right:
---:
not active
Reset_Blower_2_Backrest_Left:
---:
not active
Reset_Blower_2_Backrest_Right:
---:
not active
Deactivation of start-stop function:
---:
not active
Air quality sensor sensitivity:
---:
Medium
Interior humidity sensor, sensitivity:
---:
Medium
Reset all counters:
---:
Not activated
Production mode:
Battery_cooling_and_heating_deactivate:
not active
Air_condition_compressor_deactivate:
not active
ClearResetEmissionRelated-DiagnosticInformation_Mode$04:
not active
Deactivate production mode:
---:
Deactivating
Automatic Activation of front windshield heater at MAX-Defrost:
---:
active
Hand heater function during cold start:
---:
active
Fan speed reduction for telephony:
---:
activated
OnBoardDiagnose fĂĽr Entwicklungszwecke freischalten:
---:
not active
Entwicklungs-ID fĂĽr Entwicklungszwecke freischalten:
---:
0
Blower adjustment:
Blower adjustment:
normal tuning
Amplified overshoots heater operation:
Amplified overshoots heater operation:
Not activated
Temperature tuning:
Temperature tuning:
normal tuning
Store recirculation air setting for terminal 15 off:
Store recirculation air setting for terminal 15 off:
Service life-dependent store
Climate modes:
Climate modes:
Display
Blower display in auto operation:
Blower display in auto operation:
Not activated
Blower logic for manual adjustment:
Blower logic for manual adjustment:
Fan setting, absolute
Additional filter:
Additional filter:
not installed
Driving program:
Driving program:
not installed
Display and control unit, rear:
Display and control unit, rear:
not installed
Personalization:
Personalization:
Not activated
Schedule-Link_Switsh:
---:
according_coding_brand
Remote start function, activation of seat heating:
---:
Seat heater request driver side
Remote start function, activation of seat ventilation:
---:
activated
Rem. start funct., activat.temper. of seat heating:
---:
25.0 °C
Rem. start funct., activat.temper. of seat ventilation:
---:
32.0 °C
Remote start function, activation stage of seat heating:
---:
4
Remote start function, activation stage of seat ventilation:
---:
4
Remote start function, interior climate control status:
---:
Remote start function with fixed rated temperature active
Remote start function, windshield defogger:
Remote start function, windshield defogger:
activated
Remote start function, windshield defogger takeover:
Remote start function, windshield defogger takeover:
activated
Remote start function, rear window defogger:
---:
activated
Remote start function, seat climate control takeover:
---:
activated
Target temperature of A/C - heater function via remote control:
---:
22.0 °C
Filtering of interior air, store:
Filtering of interior air, store:
Service life-dependent store
Control module switch-off, switch-off time:
Control module:
15 s
Data bus:
15 s
Window heater:
Window_heating_front_temperature_activation_time:
active
Running time of heated front window:
240 s
Window_heating_front_cutoff_temperature:
35.00 °C
Window_heating_front_maximum_temperature_activation_time:
1200 s
Window_heating_front_activation_time_pause:
320 s
Config_heating_voltage_request:
No_set_point_voltage
Activation of wiper arm heater:
-2.00 °C
Heating_rear_window_temperature_activation_time:
active
Heating_rear_window_activation_time:
320 s
Heating_rear_window_cutoff_temperature:
35.00 °C
Seat heater level current consumption allocation:
Seat_heating_filter_constant_for_heat_flow:
1.0 s
Seat_heating_correction_of_temperature_regulation_on_heat_flow:
0.0 °C
Seat_heating_stage_1_lower_threshold:
22.0 °C
Seat_heating_stage_1_upper_threshold:
23.0 °C
Seat_heating_stage_2_lower_threshold:
22.0 °C
Seat_heating_stage_2_upper_threshold:
23.0 °C
Seat_heating_stage_3_lower_threshold:
35.5 °C
Seat_heating_stage_3_upper_threshold:
36.0 °C
Seat_heating_stage_4_lower_threshold:
35.5 °C
Seat_heating_stage_4_upper_threshold:
36.0 °C
Seat_heating_stage_5_lower_threshold:
52.5 °C
Seat_heating_stage_5_upper_threshold:
53.0 °C
Seat_heating_stage_6_lower_threshold:
52.5 °C
Seat_heating_stage_6_upper_threshold:
53.0 °C
Seat_heating_offset_voltage:
15.7 V
Config_seat_heating_low_voltage_request:
Keine Spannungsanforderung
Config_seat_heating_high_voltage_request:
Sollspannungsanforderung 14,7V
Development_Messages_Mode_Activation:
General_Messages:
0
LIN_1_Messages:
0
LIN_2_Messages:
0
LIN_3_Messages:
0
LIN_4_Messages:
0
LIN_5_Messages:
0
LIN_6_Messages:
0
LIN_7_Messages:
0
LIN_8_Messages:
0
manuel_air_recirculation_deacivate_AUTO_mode:
---:
activated
AC_evaporator_temperature_offset:
---:
0.00 K
Remote_start_function_rear_window_heater_adoption:
Remote start function, windshield defogger takeover:
activated
Interior_temperature_sensor_overshoot_time:
---:
180 s
KnockOut_test_mode:
KnockOut_Test:
0
Control module switch-off, counter:
Control module:
0.00
Data bus:
0
Behavior of compressor during moderate outside temperatures:
---:
not active
Analysis 10:
---:
Not activated
Analysis 11:
---:
Not activated
Analysis 9:
---:
Not activated
Time until seat heat recovery within the maximum level:
---:
120.0 min
Auto-Toggle:
papam_Auto_Toggle:
Not activated
counts_of_interrupts_at_compressor_run_in:
---:
0
seat_dependent_climatisation:
---:
Not activated
winterfunction:
---:
not installed
seatheatin_function_switch:
---:
AUTO_seatheating_function
steering wheel heater:
Steering_wheel_heating_adaption:
long_push
air_recirculation_deactivate_at_open_sunroof:
papam_air_recirculation_deactivate_at_open_sunroof:
Not activated
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