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Post by alexf on Jan 4, 2022 12:52:50 GMT
Hi there!
I was wondering if it is possible to retrofit on my Golf the two LED bar and if an activation is needed / possible with the OBDeleven.
I really don't know if I can order the needed part and connect it directly somewhere.
If someone can help me with this it would be appreciated!
My Golf is a 1.5 Life 130 with the IQ.Light Matrix
Have a nice day,
Alex!
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Post by alexf on Jan 10, 2022 13:10:59 GMT
Nobody has any idea?
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Post by melkool on Jan 10, 2022 14:50:42 GMT
I am also looking for part numbers and other stuff to retrofit a LED bar (anyway, 2 LED bars) on an 2019 MK8 Style for a friend , which at that time didn't had LED grill installed from factory.
We've checked my car and his car but without disassembly we couldn't find where they are connected. First we say a connector just right to the logo but it turned out to be the radar.
There are some cheap stuff on Aliexpress, but I won't trust them.
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Post by alexf on Jan 10, 2022 15:43:17 GMT
I can give you a screen with the part number, you can ask your dealer for the price and to order them.  There are several references, I know that the "first" generation of them is the "5H0 941 653 A" for the left and the "5H0 941 654 C" for the right. However, I can figure out if a coding is needed and if I can make it with the OBDEleven.. :/ |
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Post by alexf on Jan 21, 2022 13:20:50 GMT
Does anyone have informations about this?
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Post by cristiano01 on Oct 11, 2022 18:20:22 GMT
Hi! Since I am also interested in the retrofit of the led bar I did some research:
First of all online you can find the single left and right strips which, I believe, are to be applied to the existing grid (correct me if I'm wrong) or the whole complete grid divided by models (style, R-Line, GTE / I / D). I don't know which one is better to use.
Next is the wiring problem. The two lamps are controlled directly by the 09: Central Electrics control unit which has 2 pins in the C connector for control.
So you have to simply pull 2 wires from the strip towards the left area of the vehicle (where there is the BCM) and the negative simply take it from the nearest gnd point (on both sides near the headlights there is one).
Now comes the hardest part which is the coding.
I have seen, in some scans in the forum, that in the adaptations of 09, in the category Lights, there are the Leuchte sections 31 and 32 that some have configured and others have not.
I don't know if these are the correct parameters to change.
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Post by massimo23 on Oct 11, 2022 22:20:27 GMT
I found that the Leuchte address for the led bars are different:
Golf 8 built before week 48/2020 (famous 16xx infotainment software):
* Leuchte 2 SL VL B20 = Left Drl center light
* Leuchte 3 SL VR B32 = Right Drl center light
Golf 8 built after week 48/2020 (17xx/18xx infotainment software):
* Leuchte 31 AMBL 1 C61 = Left Drl center light
* Leuchte 32 AMBL 2 C35 = Right Drl center light
Even after the big software update from 16xx to 1896 (91CU recall) the Leuchte address remains the same.
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Post by cristiano01 on Oct 11, 2022 22:50:03 GMT
Thanks Massimo23.
and do you think these channels are enough? or are there others to edit?
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Post by newty on Oct 14, 2022 11:27:35 GMT
Didn't the lightbar was introduced with the KW48/20 change?
SL should be a rear light...
Either way, this is the coding for a retrofit.
Leuchte 31 and Leuchte 32 (AMBL 1 and 2) have the same
Lasttyp: allgemeine_LED_bis_6W
Lichtfunktion A: Standlicht
Dimmwert ABC: 100
Lichtansteuerung HD ABC: always
Lichtfunktion D 31: Ambiente Exterior 4
Dimmwert DEF: 100
Leuchte 31 only:
Lampendefektposition 31: 35
Fehlerort mittleres Byte DTC-DFCC31 : 26
Leuchte 32 only:
Lampendefektposition 32: 3f
Fehlerort mittleres Byte DTC-DFCC: 27
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Post by mttech on Dec 19, 2022 5:15:13 GMT
I found that the Leuchte address for the led bars are different: Golf 8 built before week 48/2020 (famous 16xx infotainment software): * Leuchte 2 SL VL B20 = Left Drl center light * Leuchte 3 SL VR B32 = Right Drl center light Golf 8 built after week 48/2020 (17xx/18xx infotainment software): * Leuchte 31 AMBL 1 C61 = Left Drl center light * Leuchte 32 AMBL 2 C35 = Right Drl center light Even after the big software update from 16xx to 1896 (91CU recall) the Leuchte address remains the same. Can anyone tell me these values might be for the 2021 Arteon? I realllllly want to enable 100% brightness for all DRL's in both main beam on and off states, as well as center left and right DRL's to be on when main beam is off. Would massively appreciate any help; thanks guys! |
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Post by massimo23 on Dec 19, 2022 9:18:21 GMT
Didn't the lightbar was introduced with the KW48/20 change? SL should be a rear light... Either way, this is the coding for a retrofit. Leuchte 31 and Leuchte 32 (AMBL 1 and 2) have the same Lasttyp: allgemeine_LED_bis_6W Lichtfunktion A: Standlicht Dimmwert ABC: 100 Lichtansteuerung HD ABC: always Lichtfunktion D 31: Ambiente Exterior 4 Dimmwert DEF: 100 Leuchte 31 only: Lampendefektposition 31: 35 Fehlerort mittleres Byte DTC-DFCC31 : 26 Leuchte 32 only: Lampendefektposition 32: 3f Fehlerort mittleres Byte DTC-DFCC: 27 It was introduced from 09/2020. My Golf 8 is 47/2020 and has the Led Bar from factory  Leuchte 31 AMBL 1 C61 and Leuchte 32 AMBL 2 C35 are not active on these older models... These are the values for the pre 48/2020 models: Leuchte 2 SL VL B20: Lasttyp 2:LED_Kleinleistung_ohne_Open_Load_Diagnose Lampendefektbitposition 2:35 Fehlerort mittleres Byte DTC-DFCC 2:26 Lichtfunktion A 2:Standlicht Dimmwert ABC 2:100 Lichtansteuerung HD ABC 2:always Lichtfunktion D 2:Ambiente Exterior 4 Dimmwert DEF 2:100 Dimming Direction DEF 2:maximize Leuchte 3 SL VR B32: Lasttyp 3:LED_Kleinleistung_ohne_Open_Load_Diagnose Lampendefektbitposition 3:3f Fehlerort mittleres Byte DTC-DFCC 3:27 Lichtfunktion A 3:Standlicht Dimmwert ABC 3:100 Lichtansteuerung HD ABC 3:always Lichtfunktion D 3:Ambiente Exterior 4 Dimmwert DEF 3:100 Dimming Direction DEF 3:maximize |
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Post by newty on Dec 20, 2022 18:02:46 GMT
Good to know they changed it mid production. For a retrofit is looks safest to pin them to the AMBL outputs
Regarding Arteon: Please ask in the correct forum. Either way, I doubt that what you describe is actually possible because of the limits of the light bar and the 4B module.
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Post by contactactive on Feb 28, 2023 16:13:49 GMT
Can one code so that the light bars are permanently off? I don't like the look of them personally so would rather they were not on.
And if it is possible to code them off, will that setting stay when you restart?
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Post by newty on Mar 1, 2023 4:15:01 GMT
Tried reversing the retrofit instructions? Like setting the mentioned Lichtfunktionen to "nicht aktiv"
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Post by alexf on Mar 11, 2023 14:59:00 GMT
Hello!
I have a question, do you know which socket I should connect my two left and right grills to on the fuse box?
Thank you!
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Post by newty on Mar 11, 2023 17:02:45 GMT
They are not connected via the fusebox, but use a dimmable, power limited output of the BCM.
Erwin allows you to obtain the PDF wiring diagram for the Golf Variant. You will get all wirings, connection joints and connector pinouts. It is not easy to navigate, but a valueable resource
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Post by melly on Apr 21, 2023 4:20:24 GMT
When i try to adjust the leuchte 2 and 3 to not aktiv (to turn off the led bar it gives error: “Function not available”. Tried with ios and android but no luck. Anyone got an idea?
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Post by newty on Apr 21, 2023 6:02:37 GMT
Looks like nicht aktiv and a active dimmwert is not interlocked.
Can you also try to set the dimmwert channels to 0?
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Post by melly on Apr 22, 2023 23:46:20 GMT
Yeah tried, still get the message Function not available
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Post by crow on May 20, 2023 16:39:55 GMT
Hello
Did you succeed to code thé animation ? I did it but with animation th right front led bar did not light up !!
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Post by adrians on Jun 12, 2023 8:46:04 GMT
About the wiring problem,
I found on the web a cable set for the light bar but is to expensive, does anybody have the part code of the 2 conectors?
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Post by veton on Oct 31, 2023 22:13:16 GMT
Is it possible to take power from the acc radar in the vw sign?
I have information that I can only check 100%!
Thank you
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Post by dagdelen on Nov 27, 2023 19:17:07 GMT
Hi, i have an 2022 impression golf 8, i want to install front led bar and i got wiring diagrams but i dont have any idea to where i can start to install. Is there a someone can tell me the right way for installation, forexample "u should plug the sockets on led bar to fusebox and the ground should be plugged to fusebox gnd." etc etc... and after the wiring done how can i code the led bar, what is the correct coding for 2022 golf 8, thank you in advance.  LED BAR WIRING DIAGRAM |
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on Nov 27, 2023 20:37:35 GMT
.................. for example "u should plug the sockets on led bar to fusebox and the ground should be plugged to fusebox gnd." etc etc... and after the wiring done how can i code the led bar, what is the correct coding for 2022 golf 8, thank you in advance. I've not done this retrofit - but looking at your wiring diagram, the arrangement for L362/L363 seems to be the same as for most of the other external lamps in these cars. By this I mean that late model Golfs (and ALL modern VW vehicles, really) no longer use the traditional method of in-line fused circuits. Instead, in today's cars- electrical protection of lamp circuits happens within the control module, itself.
If you look at the Leuchte-sets in a late model Golf, you will find a couple of channels related specifically to diagnostic monitoring and circuit protection. There are internal facilities inside the central electrics module that can detect faulty lamps/wires and isolate these circuits for individual lights. Once a detected fault has been repaired, these internal protection facilities automatically reset and allow normal lamp functioning !
So, bottom-line= no fuses are required for this project - which is why the wiring arrangement in your picture shows no fuses!! BUT (and there is always a "but" in these type of exercises) - I'm puzzled by a disconnect between your wiring diagram and a previous reply to this thread - copy below: I found that the Leuchte address for the led bars are different: Golf 8 built before week 48/2020 (famous 16xx infotainment software): * Leuchte 2 SL VL B20 = Left Drl center light * Leuchte 3 SL VR B32 = Right Drl center light Golf 8 built after week 48/2020 (17xx/18xx infotainment software): * Leuchte 31 AMBL 1 C61 = Left Drl center light * Leuchte 32 AMBL 2 C35 = Right Drl center light Even after the big software update from 16xx to 1896 (91CU recall) the Leuchte address remains the same. The standard nomenclature (naming convention) for Leuchte-sets specifies the pin number that is controlled. In the quote above, the relevant leuchte-sets are:
- Leuchte 31 AMBL 1 C61 = Left Drl center light
- Leuchte 32 AMBL 2 C35 = Right Drl center light
This means that the pin assignments are: - For the Left Drl center light (Leuchte 31) = pin #61, Socket C
- For the Right Drl center light (Leuchte 32) = pin #35, Socket C
However, you wiring diagram (copy below) says: - Left Drl center light = pin # 61, Socket B
- Right Drl center light = pin #35, Socket B
So, there is a disconnect somewhere - I think!!!
Don
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Post by veton on Nov 28, 2023 9:58:51 GMT
So that there are no problems whether it works or not, take the power supply (signal) from 12. in the cabin and ground from the battery. The led bar is activated when you start the car.
I am overjoyed
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Post by dagdelen on Nov 28, 2023 18:54:05 GMT
thx for your feedback, i'ill try to retrofit my center led's on car as soon as posible. thx to much for coding info's, i keep to learn something about VAG coding every day from this forum, thx a lot again..
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Post by silvano86 on Dec 3, 2023 23:24:34 GMT
Hi guys, I've been following this page for a long time because I also intend to install the LED bar.
I installed it a few days ago and now I'm having trouble getting it to work.
I have tried several times following your advice but LED Bar do not work. In detail, I tried to connect the electrical cables of the LED bar in 2 different ways:
1) connect 1 cable to pin 20 of socket B (the central one) of the BCM and 1 cable to pin 32. Then i carrying out both coding the Leuchte 2 SL VL B20 + Leuchte 3 SL VRB32 and both the coding Leuchte 31 AMBL 1 C61 / Leuchte 32 AMBL 2 C35 but it doesn't work.....the led bar with this coding and this electrical connection only lights up with reverse gear engaged;
2) connect on socket C of the BCM by connecting pins 35 and 61 and with both codings mentioned above, the LED bar still doesn't work.....I don't know what to do anymore.
I'm seriously considering getting a 12V key operated ignition to make it turn on.
Do you have any advice to give me?
I have a Golf 8 with full LED headlights from September 2021.
My LED bar have 3 cables: 1 in common negative and 2 positive (1 for right LED and 1 for left LED).
Thank you. (I hope I was clear in my explanation)
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Post by dagdelen on Dec 4, 2023 12:29:03 GMT
Hi again, my friend come to me and asking for something about led bar, he has mk8 1.5eTsi so his car have the led bar from factory, but he doesn't like the LED bar so he wants it to be turned off permanently. How can i do the coding section?
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on Dec 4, 2023 20:42:55 GMT
dagdelen : hmm......... as I have already said, there seems to be a disconnect between the VW wiring diagram and the naming convention for Leuchte-sets in massimo23 advice (not his fault).
The outcome when connecting to B20 and B32 makes sense - clearly on Golfs produced after week 48/2020, these pins were re-assigned to the reverse lights (as massimo23 said)! When you were playing with the 3 x BCM sockets, did you notice if pins B61 and B35 had wires connected? Also, were C61 and C35 terminated with wires?
If I had the wiring diagram for this car, I could investigate further - but i don't (alas). Did you get any error messages after you tried the 2 x alternative pin terminations with the suggested coding changes? Don |
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Post by silvano86 on Dec 5, 2023 8:55:42 GMT
hi, I didn't receive any type of error coding C61 and C35 while the coding on B20 and B32 was not accepted. Other electrical cables are already present on pins C61 and C35 (curiosity, these cables are the same color as the VW diagram, i.e. yellow/white and yellow/black).
I haven't checked pins B61 and B35... where can I find them? on socket A of the BCM? because socket B (the central one) is 46pin.
Thank you
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