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Post by william00 on Sept 7, 2021 21:20:52 GMT
Hi everyone,
I need coding for vw golf Mk7’s 2015 I’ve installed mk7.5 aftermarket headlights from halogen to LED. My dipped beams goes off when daytime running lights are on. I needed to coded so that drl and dipped beams stay on at the same time on auto mode.
I would really appreciate if someone can help me please.
Thank you
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on Sept 7, 2021 21:44:04 GMT
I need to better understand your question .
Why are you referring to the AUTO position? As a general rule, whenever the DRLs are illuminated during daylight, the low-beams are OFF. This happens when the rotary light switch is in the "0" position and also when in the AUTO position.
I don't believe that its possible to make the operation of lights in the "0" position different to what happens when the rotary light switch is in the AUTO position and it is daylight.
So - if its OK for the same operation in the 2 x positions as above - post up screenshots of Leuchte6ABL LC5 . To be clear, I need to see ALL 19 x channel values
Don
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Post by william00 on Sept 7, 2021 23:34:42 GMT
Hi Don,
Sorry for my explanation, but I’m asking for a friend and now I understand it doesn’t make sense.
I asked him again and basically his drl turns off when dark and dipped beams turn on. He wants the drl to stay always on on “auto” mode so that at night has both drl and dipped beams on. And during the day just drl.
I don’t have the car with me at the moment so I can’t send any pictures of the adaptations.
I hope you can help me now that is more understandable.
Thank you
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on Sept 8, 2021 0:21:44 GMT
william00 : Ok - that's different to my first understanding - but no matter!! The changes needed to make the DRLs work as your friend wants depends on the the type of lamps installed on the car (LED , or incandescent) and it depends on the country of sale. If the DRLs illuminate when the rotary-light-switch is in the Parking-light/Side-light position (i.e. 3rd position to the right), then do this: - Go to central electrics module
- Select adaptation
- For the 4 x Leuchte-sets below, look for the value Standlicht vorn (Positionslicht; Begrenzungslicht) on any of the Lichtfunktion channels- change to Standlicht allgemein (Schlusslicht; Positionslicht; Begrenzungslicht) Note: if the Leuchte-set has this value at all (it may not) -there should be only one instance per Leuchte-set:
- Leuchte2SL VLB10
- Leuchte3SL VRB21
- Leuchte4TFL LB4
- Leuchte5 TFL RB32
- When prompted for a security code - use 31347
As I have noted above - you may not find the value in step III on all 4 x Leuchte-sets (as I said, it depends).
With this tweak, the DRL lamp will illuminate with low-beams - but very likely they will be dimmed (not as bright as DRL function). This must necessarily happen because the DRL lamps do not have reflectors with cut-off characteristics (like the reflectors on low-beam lamps). So, if the DRL lamps had full brilliance at nighttime - they would blind on coming traffic
Don
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Post by william00 on Sept 8, 2021 0:44:29 GMT
Ok I will try tomorrow for all the 4 sets and if not all of them are available, am I getting the same result?
Also where can increase the brightness of drl’s in case they are too dimmed?
If it help it’s a UK car.
Once again, thank you very much Don
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on Sept 8, 2021 1:24:42 GMT
Ok I will try tomorrow for all the 4 sets and if not all of them are available, am I getting the same result? Yes, you should get the same outcome. To be clear: - if the car is fitted with LED type DRL lamps - the value in my instructions should appear on ALL 4 x Leuchte-sets
- if the car has incandescent DRL lamps - the value will only appear on Leuchte4TFL LB4 and Leuchte5 TFL RB32
Also where can increase the brightness of drl’s in case they are too dimmed? If it help it’s a UK car. OK - take note of the Lichtfunktion alphabet that contains the value in my instructions. Then change the value of the Dimmwert channel that contains the same alphabet in the pair. For example, if Lichtfunktion E contains the value - change the value of Dimmwert EF.
Note: Don't change the Dimmwert value on Leuchte4TFL LB4, or Leuchte5 TFL RB32 if the car has LED type DRL lamps - which will be set to 127
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Post by atifkhassan on Dec 17, 2022 20:59:49 GMT
Thank you so much for this, for months I’ve been searching for this exact thing as I had the exact same issue, even went out of my way to buy another light switch but realised after I didn’t have to. I know it’s probably late but thank you so much for this, although a bit confusing at first but yes, if you have halogen lights, or in my case, aftermarket plug and play mk7.5 headlights, then search for leuchte4 and leuchte5 as it says, then look for the one that says Standlicht vorn (Positionslicht; Begrenzungslicht). Essentially, scroll through and look at either Leuchte5 TFL RB32 A, B, C, D, E etc. as well as the same for Leuchte4TFL LB4. you may find there’s more than one that has it like it did in my case, I just changed both to Standlicht allgemein (Schlusslicht; Positionslicht; Begrenzungslicht) and got the result I wanted.
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Post by momo94tn on Apr 14, 2024 20:17:38 GMT
Ok I will try tomorrow for all the 4 sets and if not all of them are available, am I getting the same result? Yes, you should get the same outcome. To be clear: - if the car is fitted with LED type DRL lamps - the value in my instructions should appear on ALL 4 x Leuchte-sets
- if the car has incandescent DRL lamps - the value will only appear on Leuchte4TFL LB4 and Leuchte5 TFL RB32
Also where can increase the brightness of drl’s in case they are too dimmed? If it help it’s a UK car. OK - take note of the Lichtfunktion alphabet that contains the value in my instructions. Then change the value of the Dimmwert channel that contains the same alphabet in the pair. For example, if Lichtfunktion E contains the value - change the value of Dimmwert EF.
Note: Don't change the Dimmwert value on Leuchte4TFL LB4, or Leuchte5 TFL RB32 if the car has LED type DRL lamps - which will be set to 127
Hi, how are you? I replaced the right full LED aftermarket headlight. When set to "0" or "auto" mode, the right DRL remains off. If I set the mode to low beams, the DRL works, while the left DRL works in both "0" and "auto" modes. I would like to understand if it can be fixed with coding as mentioned by the user above, because even with the same headlight, I thought it was faulty. By installing this new, identical aftermarket model, I encounter the same issue. I hage a golf 7 2013 2.0 TDI highline bluemotion european version, in origin alogen headlight and changed whit aftermarket full led headlights. |
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on Apr 14, 2024 22:03:29 GMT
momo94tn : Hi. So, here's the thing about your retrofit equipment - it's very non-OEM! This means that VW never made a MY13 Golf which was factory built with halogen headlights and also operated with LED Headlight fittings. It's anyone's guess how the after-market manufacturer of your new headlights designed the non-OEM equipment.
From a pure logic perspective - if you have retrofitted a left-side and right-side headlight to this car AND if no coding changes were made AND if only the right-side fitting does not work - the probability is that the physical right-side fitting is faulty!!
That said, I guess that you could try changing the Lasttyp setting on the Leuchte-sets for the DRL lamps.
Maybe try this: For Leuchte4TFL LB4 (left-side) and Leuchte5 TFL RB32 (right-side), experiment with different values for the Lasttyp channel using a setting with LED in the name. Perhaps start with the following: - 4-LED Tagfahrlichtmodul Signal
- 6-LED Lichtmodul
- 40-allgemeine LED
- 43-allgemeine LED
If none of the values above fix this problem - I suggest that you try temporarily plugging-in the right-side headlight into the left-side connector. If the fault follows the swapped headlight, it's faulty!!
Don
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Post by momo94tn on Apr 22, 2024 19:48:19 GMT
momo94tn : Hi. So, here's the thing about your retrofit equipment - it's very non-OEM! This means that VW never made a MY13 Golf which was factory built with halogen headlights and also operated with LED Headlight fittings. It's anyone's guess how the after-market manufacturer of your new headlights designed the non-OEM equipment.
From a pure logic perspective - if you have retrofitted a left-side and right-side headlight to this car AND if no coding changes were made AND if only the right-side fitting does not work - the probability is that the physical right-side fitting is faulty!!
That said, I guess that you could try changing the Lasttyp setting on the Leuchte-sets for the DRL lamps.
Maybe try this: For Leuchte4TFL LB4 (left-side) and Leuchte5 TFL RB32 (right-side), experiment with different values for the Lasttyp channel using a setting with LED in the name. Perhaps start with the following: - 4-LED Tagfahrlichtmodul Signal
- 6-LED Lichtmodul
- 40-allgemeine LED
- 43-allgemeine LED
If none of the values above fix this problem - I suggest that you try temporarily plugging-in the right-side headlight into the left-side connector. If the fault follows the swapped headlight, it's faulty!!
Don
Apparently the second will was also defective and water was coming in and creatinga short circuit in the drl.. Crazy ... I bought the brand VLAND which I think you know is more serious the model has only the secondary DRLs active by default, to activate The first drl from below, how do I have to do with obdeleven ? Thank you very much |
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on Apr 22, 2024 21:38:05 GMT
hmm......... why do you believe that coding changes can help with these defective non-OEM fittings?
There is only ONE Leuchte-set per car-side that provide power to the DRL lights on this vehicle. As I have said, because these are NOT VW headlights, it's anyone's guess how the manufacturer uses this ONE power supply to drive BOTH the "secondary DRL" and "first DRL from below" (I'm not sure what these terms mean). However, the basic laws of electricity mandate that it NOT possible to code the ONE Leuchte-set for the DRLs and have different effects on each separate DRL lamp in the headlight fitting!
My suggestion is that you contact the manufacturer - this is NOT a problem that can be solved by coding (alas)
Don
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Post by momo94tn on Apr 23, 2024 0:08:35 GMT
hmm......... why do you believe that coding changes can help with these defective non-OEM fittings? There is only ONE Leuchte-set per car-side that provide power to the DRL lights on this vehicle. As I have said, because these are NOT VW headlights, it's anyone's guess how the manufacturer uses this ONE power supply to drive BOTH the "secondary DRL" and "first DRL from below" (I'm not sure what these terms mean). However, the basic laws of electricity mandate that it NOT possible to code the ONE Leuchte-set for the DRLs and have different effects on each separate DRL lamp in the headlight fitting! My suggestion is that you contact the manufacturer - this is NOT a problem that can be solved by coding (alas) Don Hi dear, thank you for your reply, you are right about everything but the headlights I put new VLAND brand as standard only activate the top DRL, the bottom one is off as standard, they are new headlights, before I used to mount a brand called "aokeding" which apparently they produced a batch of defective right headlights and water from outside the inside would get in and after rain or washing the car water would get in and then the DRLs would get damaged, that was the problem, on these standard vland, the drl at the bottom, is off on both headlights, I saw that on other types of headlights there is also ready coding on obd eleven but I assume they will be OEM headlights (?) the u-shaped ones that so many people have |
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Post by kaume on Apr 26, 2024 8:16:32 GMT
Hi all,
I have a Golf MK7 2014, which came with a factory setting of DRLs brightness value of 26 for the U-shape LEDs. Recently, I searched on the web and managed to increase the brightness to a value of 100. This is one good step to what I want to achieve, but I have realized that this brightness remain the same even at night, and it is not nice to the oncoming motorists on the road.
Could someone please help on how to do a setup to achieve the following two objectives:
1. Have the U-shaped DRLs reduce brightness at night to a value below 30, while during the daylight it is 100.
2. Currently, the DRLs don't go on automatically during daylight when I switch on the car, even when the rotary light switch is at AUTO position. I have to move the rotary light switch to the 3rd position (position for parking lights) - I need a set up that will instruct the DRLs to go ON automically when the switch is at AUTO position, and without letting the main beam lamp go on if it is during the daylight.
Appoligies for the long post but I hope this makes my issue clear enough.
Thanks.
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on Apr 26, 2024 20:43:23 GMT
kaume : Hi. hmm.......... Your "two objectives" sound like the factory settings! Although you don't say, I assume that the AUTO position works OK to switch-ON the night-time lights when it's dark. Is this so? I'm guessing that the DRLs do not operate as per the factory mode because of coding changes! Post-up screenshots of the current values for the following Leuchte-sets: - Leuchte4TFL LB4
- Leuchte2SL VLB10
To be clear - I need to see the values og ALL 19 x adaptation channels for each Leuchte-set in your reply
Don
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Post by kaume on Apr 28, 2024 11:56:30 GMT
Hi Don, Tha is correct, the AUTO position works okay to switch lights at night or when there is darkness. My current Leuchte sets values look like below: Leuchte4TFL LB4-Lasttyp 4 > 1 - LED Tagfahrlichtmodul VersorgungLeuchte4TFL LB4-Lampendefektbitposition 4 > 3ALeuchte4TFL LB4-Fehlerort mittleres Byte DTC-DFCC 4 > 49Leuchte4TFL LB4-Lichtfunktion A 4 > Daytime running lampsLeuchte4TFL LB4-Lichtfunktion B 4 > not activeLeuchte4TFL LB4-Dimmwert AB 4 > 127Leuchte4TFL LB4-Lichtansteuerung HD AB 4 > AlwaysLeuchte4TFL LB4-Lichtfunktion C 4 > Standlicht allgemein (Schlusslicht; Positionslicht; Begrenzungslicht)Leuchte4TFL LB4-Lichtfunktion D 4 > Parklicht links (beidseitiges Parklicht aktiviert li & re)Leuchte4TFL LB4-Dimmwert CD 4 > 127Leuchte4TFL LB4-Dimming Direction CD 4 > maximizeLeuchte4TFL LB4-Lichtfunktion E 4 > not activeLeuchte4TFL LB4-Lichtfunktion F 4 > not activeLeuchte4TFL LB4-Dimmwert EF 4 > 0Leuchte4TFL LB4-Dimming Direction EF 4 > maximizeLeuchte4TFL LB4-Lichtfunktion G 4 > not activeLeuchte4TFL LB4-Lichtfunktion H 4 > not activeLeuchte4TFL LB4-Dimmwert GH 4 > 0Leuchte4TFL LB4-Dimming Direction GH 4 > maximize
Leuchte2SL VLB10-Lasttyp 2 > 4 - LED Tagfahrlichtmodul SignalLeuchte2SL VLB10-Lampendefektbitposition 2 > 48Leuchte2SL VLB10-Fehlerort mittleres Byte DTC-DFCC 2 > 4ALeuchte2SL VLB10-Lichtfunktion A 2 > Daytime running lightsLeuchte2SL VLB10-Lichtfunktion B 2 > not activeLeuchte2SL VLB10-Dimmwert AB 2 > 100Leuchte2SL VLB10-Lichtansteuerung HD AB 2 > AlwaysLeuchte2SL VLB10-Lichtfunktion C 2 > Standlicht allgemein (Schlusslicht; Positionslicht; Begrenzungslicht)Leuchte2SL VLB10-Lichtfunktion D 2 > Parklicht links (beidseitiges Parklicht aktiviert li & re)Leuchte2SL VLB10-Dimmwert CD 2 > 100Leuchte2SL VLB10-Dimming Direction CD 2 > maximizeLeuchte2SL VLB10-Lichtfunktion E 2 > not activeLeuchte2SL VLB10-Lichtfunktion F 2 > not activeLeuchte2SL VLB10-Dimmwert EF 2 > 0Leuchte2SL VLB10-Dimming Direction EF 2 > maximizeLeuchte2SL VLB10-Lichtfunktion G 2 > not activeLeuchte2SL VLB10-Lichtfunktion H 2 > not activeLeuchte2SL VLB10-Dimmwert GH 2 > 0Leuchte2SL VLB10-Dimming Direction GH 2 > maximizeApologies I could not take screenshot as I am currently using VCDS that shows every channel setup in its own screen and that means I could have spammed this platform with 38 such screenshots  . |
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on Apr 28, 2024 22:47:58 GMT
kaume : hmm......... to achieve the first of your two objectives - do this: For Leuchte2SL VLB10 and Leuchte3SL VRB21This change will illuminate the DRL lamps to 30% whenever the rotary light switch is either in AUTO position AND it's dark outside, or "the 3rd position (position for parking lights)". However, achieving your second objective is more problematic because the solution appears to NOT be a Leuchte-coding issue. The values in your Leuchte-sets as posted should allow the DRL lamps to fully illuminate during daylight conditions. This means that the answer to why the DRLs are NOT operating lies elsewhere! So, I guess that I need more information!! Did the DRL problem arise after coding changes were made?
Your answer to my question above will determine how we proceed - so please be truthful (I'm here to help solve this problem - I'm NOT here to judge! )
Don
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Post by kaume on Apr 29, 2024 6:03:11 GMT
kaume : hmm......... to achieve the first of your two objectives - do this: For Leuchte2SL VLB10 and Leuchte3SL VRB21This change will illuminate the DRL lamps to 30% whenever the rotary light switch is either in AUTO position AND it's dark outside, or "the 3rd position (position for parking lights)". However, achieving your second objective is more problematic because the solution appears to NOT be a Leuchte-coding issue. The values in your Leuchte-sets as posted should allow the DRL lamps to fully illuminate during daylight conditions. This means that the answer to why the DRLs are NOT operating lies elsewhere! So, I guess that I need more information!! Did the DRL problem arise after coding changes were made?
Your answer to my question above will determine how we proceed - so please be truthful (I'm here to help solve this problem - I'm NOT here to judge! )
Don
Don, I see it now (for Objective 1) - the values for Dimmwert AB and CD on Leuchte2SL & Leuchte3SL are both 100. I will make the changes as advised. On the 2nd issue - Since I got this car (about 3 years ago) I have never seen the DRLs work automatically during the day when the rotary switch is at AUTO position, save for when I put it on Parking Lights positions. The problem existed even before the coding that I did (some days ago) to increase the brightness of the LEDs. No other coding has ever been done on lights. |
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on Apr 29, 2024 21:56:51 GMT
kaume : hmm.......... so, now we are in the complete guessing game to solve your second objective!!!!
Maybe start by checking the following adaptation channel in the 09 module: - Daytime running lights-Tagfahrlicht nur in Schalterstellung AUTO > not active
If my suggestion above does NOT work - you will need to post-up a copy of the complete adaptation channel database for the 09 module - which VCDS calls "BCM" (Body Control Module).
In VCDS speak, the database is called an "admap" - I provide a set of instructions for creating a BCM admap HERE.
Please be aware that the BCM channel count will be in excess of 1,000 - so the admap file will contain lots of records (meaning that it will be big)!! So, when you post-up the admap file, use the Add attachment facility (see the extreme upper right-side of the forum Create Post screen).
To be clear, post-up a copy of the complete admap file - don't use the "cop-and-paste" steps with MS Notepad in my instructions.
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Post by kaume on Apr 30, 2024 9:07:13 GMT
kaume : hmm.......... so, now we are in the complete guessing game to solve your second objective!!!!
Maybe start by checking the following adaptation channel in the 09 module: - Daytime running lights-Tagfahrlicht nur in Schalterstellung AUTO > not active
If my suggestion above does NOT work - you will need to post-up a copy of the complete adaptation channel database for the 09 module - which VCDS calls "BCM" (Body Control Module).
In VCDS speak, the database is called an "admap" - I provide a set of instructions for creating a BCM admap HERE.
Please be aware that the BCM channel count will be in excess of 1,000 - so the admap file will contain lots of records (meaning that it will be big)!! So, when you post-up the admap file, use the Add attachment facility (see the extreme upper right-side of the forum Create Post screen).
To be clear, post-up a copy of the complete admap file - don't use the "cop-and-paste" steps with MS Notepad in my instructions.
Don
Hi Don, First, even the 1st obejctive has not worked out. I changed the Dimmwert CD values for Leuchte2SL and 3SL from 100 to 30, and the brightness reduced to that percentage all the time even when I have put only the parking lights On (I guess the DRLs have to work on AUTO mode first, for this objective to be achieved with the setup - I might be wrong though). For the 2nd objective, I have changed the channel " Daytime running lights-Tagfahrlicht nur in Schalterstellung AUTO" value alternatively to Active and not active, and neither case worked. I think this now sounds like a deeper problem. I have attached a CSV file of Admap as instructed, for your review. Thanks. adpmap-09-5Q0-937-087-L_WVWZZZAUZEP549038-2....CSV (136.4 KB) |
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on Apr 30, 2024 22:33:36 GMT
First, even the 1st obejctive has not worked out. I changed the Dimmwert CD values for Leuchte2SL and 3SL from 100 to 30, and the brightness reduced to that percentage all the time even when I have put only the parking lights On (I guess the DRLs have to work on AUTO mode first, for this objective to be achieved with the setup - I might be wrong though). Yes - my suggested solution for Objective-1 did indeed assume that we were able to also achieve Objective-2!! So, your explanation of what happened with my suggested change is exactly as expected!!
For the 2nd objective, I have changed the channel " Daytime running lights-Tagfahrlicht nur in Schalterstellung AUTO" value alternatively to Active and not active, and neither case worked. OK - I note that Daytime running lamps-Tagfahrlicht nur in Schalterstellung AUTO is set as active in your admap file. Translated to English, this channel name means Daytime running lamps - daytime running lights only in switch position AUTO. So, as the words imply - if you leave this channel value=active, the DRLs will NOT operate when the rotary light switch is in the 0 position during daylight! Change the value of Daytime running lamps-Tagfahrlicht nur in Schalterstellung AUTO to not active as I suggested in my last reply - please!
I think this now sounds like a deeper problem. Narrh........ I don't agree - achieving Objective-2 is simply a programming problem! This ain't rocket science!!! Try this change: - IDE06864-IDE06864-ENG115833-Daytime running lamps-Fahrlicht bei Tag> Daytime running lights
BUT (yes, there is a "but" with this channel) - there is a trick that needs to be understood when making this change, which I will explain via the following screenshot:  When my suggested channel above is accessed with VCDS and when the New value dialogue-box is selected, you should find 2 x instances of Daytime running lights as available options (as shown in my screenshot). I have no idea why this happens and the same also occurs with OBD11- so the source of the oddity is in the module, itself (i.e. this is NOT a problem with the diagnostic device) Anyhow, when making my suggested change - select the FIRST instance of Daytime running lights
Of course you will need to also re-implement my very first suggestion regarding Leuchte2SL/3SL to achieve Objective-1.
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Post by kaume on May 1, 2024 14:55:01 GMT
First, even the 1st obejctive has not worked out. I changed the Dimmwert CD values for Leuchte2SL and 3SL from 100 to 30, and the brightness reduced to that percentage all the time even when I have put only the parking lights On (I guess the DRLs have to work on AUTO mode first, for this objective to be achieved with the setup - I might be wrong though). Yes - my suggested solution for Objective-1 did indeed assume that we were able to also achieve Objective-2!! So, your explanation of what happened with my suggested change is exactly as expected!!
For the 2nd objective, I have changed the channel " Daytime running lights-Tagfahrlicht nur in Schalterstellung AUTO" value alternatively to Active and not active, and neither case worked. OK - I note that Daytime running lamps-Tagfahrlicht nur in Schalterstellung AUTO is set as active in your admap file. Translated to English, this channel name means Daytime running lamps - daytime running lights only in switch position AUTO. So, as the words imply - if you leave this channel value=active, the DRLs will NOT operate when the rotary light switch is in the 0 position during daylight! Change the value of Daytime running lamps-Tagfahrlicht nur in Schalterstellung AUTO to not active as I suggested in my last reply - please!
I think this now sounds like a deeper problem. Narrh........ I don't agree - achieving Objective-2 is simply a programming problem! This ain't rocket science!!! Try this change: - IDE06864-IDE06864-ENG115833-Daytime running lamps-Fahrlicht bei Tag> Daytime running lights
BUT (yes, there is a "but" with this channel) - there is a trick that needs to be understood when making this change, which I will explain via the following screenshot: When my suggested channel above is accessed with VCDS and when the New value dialogue-box is selected, you should find 2 x instances of Daytime running lights as available options (as shown in my screenshot). I have no idea why this happens and the same also occurs with OBD11- so the source of the oddity is in the module, itself (i.e. this is NOT a problem with the diagnostic device) Anyhow, when making my suggested change - select the FIRST instance of Daytime running lights
Of course you will need to also re-implement my very first suggestion regarding Leuchte2SL/3SL to achieve Objective-1.
Don Hi Don, I have done all these,.. no success yet! I have changed the " Daytime running lights-Tagfahrlicht nur in Schalterstellung AUTO" value to not active (see screenshot below).  Next I changed the IDE06864-IDE06864-ENG115833-Daytime running lamps-Fahrlicht bei Tag value to Daytime running lamps (2nd in the list. For my case there is lamps and lights - see screenshots below). By the way I have noted that in my module there is values of Daytime running lamps and Daytime running lights under various channels - I don't know why the difference, but importantly, I have ensured consistency in all the setups, including the Leuchte sets, to be either as "lamps" or "lights" while making all the changes.   Thanks. |
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on May 1, 2024 22:28:12 GMT
The reason for the different use of "lamps/"lights" in your screenshots will be your newer VCDS software version.
When I first discovered this anomaly (now, long ago), I advised Ross-Tech of the problem - clearly there have been changes made in later VCDS software releases. I no longer support VCDS because of the founder's ultra right-wing stance on US gun control (look at the crossed rifles against the American flag on the Ross-Tech web-page banner). I'm less concerned about Americans killing one another albeit, it's still an appalling dynamic for US citizens!! However, I'm totally against the increasing number of innocent American school children that are massacred and nothing seems to be done. Unbelievably, these heinous events now appear to be the norm - "patriots" scare the be-Jesus out of me!!! ! So I made an ethical decision to leave the VCDS forum and I was not aware of the software changes. I'm aware from the part number of the BCM on this car that you are American- but I still hold to my beliefs and I make no apology for my stance on this matter!
OK - rant over - let's go back to solving Objective-2 (which is a far more achievable task)! I entirely understand your guiding philosophy in making changes whereby you say "I have ensured consistency in all the setups, including the Leuchte sets, to be either as "lamps" or "lights". However, I suspect that the position of the various options on our respective VCDS screens is the common element between my version VCDS software (which is now obsolete) and yours!! My view is that the code-cutters @ Ross-Tech retained the relative position of the DRL options and simply changed the term "lights"-to-"lamps" in the second entry on your screenshot. This hypothesis makes more sense than changing both the position AND the name of the DRL options in subsequent software releases - IMO, of course!
This means (I suggest) that the correct DRL value to solve Objective-2 is still the FIRST option on both our screenshots (i.e. the entry "Daytime running lights", NOT the value "Daytime running lamps")
Given your latest revelations - we need to move onto the next level complication with the Fahrlicht bei Tag channel. To explain - I'm referring to the interplay between the Fahrlicht bei Tag channel and the same issue when selecting the DRL Leuchte-command for the Lichtfunktion channel in the Leuchte-sets. Here is a visual explanation of the issue: Notice on the upper VCDS screenshot that in the same way that there are 2 x versions of DRL in the Fahrlicht bei Tag channel, there are also 2 x options when selecting the DRL Leuchte-command in the Lichtfunktion channel (at least this happens on the version VCDS software that I used when making the picture above - which again, is now obsolete).
Because of the differences between our two VCDS software versions - your equivalent screen for the Lichtfunktion channel will use the term Daytime running lamps instead of the entry 2A in my picture.
If I re-examine the admap that you provided in an earlier post, I find that your BCM uses the version DRL Leuchte-command Daytime running lamps (again, this is option 2A in my picture) in the following Leuchte-sets: - ENG116938-ENG115913-Leuchte2SL VLB10-Lichtfunktion A 2
- ENG116939-ENG115932-Leuchte3SL VRB21-Lichtfunktion A 3
- ENG116940-ENG115951-Leuchte4TFL LB4-Lichtfunktion A 4
- ENG116941-ENG115970-Leuchte5 TFL RB32-Lichtfunktion A 5
So, I suggest that you change the value in the 4 x channels above to Daytime running lights (in your version VCDS) AND in the Fahrlicht bei Tag channel. To be clear, I'm suggesting that you apply: - option 1A for the 4 x Leuchte-channels above
- AND option 1B for the Fahrlicht bei Tag channel
In ALL cases, select the FIRST option DRL in your VCDS version software.
Don
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Post by kaume on May 2, 2024 19:26:17 GMT
Don, The options don't seem to work either. I have activated the instructed values for for Fahrlicht bei Tag channel and the 4*Leuchte sets as highlighted in the followimg screenshots respectively - nothing seems to work though.   And by the way, I am not an American. |
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on May 2, 2024 23:20:53 GMT
And by the way, I am not an American. Really? That's very odd indeed because the ONLY mk7 models that I've seen with 5Q0-937-087 series BCMs (see your admap and ALL your coding screenshots) are North American Region Golfs. What is the history of this car and what country is this? The options don't seem to work either. Bummer!!! I'm out of options - this is a very strange problem indeed!! My only remaining suggestion is that you continue to use your practice of switching the rotary light switch to the Public lighting position. I admit that this fix is very inelegant, but I'm totally stumped!
So, to make my "inelegant fix" work AND to achieve your Objective-1, we need to tell the DRL Leuchte-sets to operate in the following manner: - When the rotary light switch is on the
 position - the DRL lamps = full illumination - When the rotary light switch is on the AUTO, or
 position - the DRL lamps = 30% illumination
To implement requirement 1. above, do the following: - Change the current setting not active to Standlicht vorn (Positionslicht; Begrenzungslicht) for the following channels:
- ENG116938-ENG115914-Leuchte2SL VLB10-Lichtfunktion B 2
- ENG116939-ENG115933-Leuchte3SL VRB21-Lichtfunktion B 3
- ENG116940-ENG115952-Leuchte4TFL LB4-Lichtfunktion B 4
- ENG116941-ENG115971-Leuchte5 TFL RB32-Lichtfunktion B 5
To implement requirement 2. above, do the following (this is a repeat of my previous suggestion): - For Leuchte2SL VLB10 and Leuchte3SL VRB21
Don
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Post by kaume on May 3, 2024 5:10:02 GMT
Really? That's very odd indeed because the ONLY mk7 models that I've seen with 5Q0-937-087 series BCMs (see your admap and ALL your coding screenshots) are North American Region Golfs. What is the history of this car and what country is this? This car was imported from Japan, to East Africa. |
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Post by kaume on May 3, 2024 5:13:56 GMT
Bummer!!! I'm out of options - this is a very strange problem indeed!! My only remaining suggestion is that you continue to use your practice of switching the rotary light switch to the Public lighting position. I admit that this fix is very inelegant, but I'm totally stumped!
So, to make my "inelegant fix" work AND to achieve your Objective-1, we need to tell the DRL Leuchte-sets to operate in the following manner: - When the rotary light switch is on the position - the DRL lamps = full illumination
- When the rotary light switch is on the AUTO, or position - the DRL lamps = 30% illumination
To implement requirement 1. above, do the following: - Change the current setting not active to Standlicht vorn (Positionslicht; Begrenzungslicht) for the following channels:
- ENG116938-ENG115914-Leuchte2SL VLB10-Lichtfunktion B 2
- ENG116939-ENG115933-Leuchte3SL VRB21-Lichtfunktion B 3
- ENG116940-ENG115952-Leuchte4TFL LB4-Lichtfunktion B 4
- ENG116941-ENG115971-Leuchte5 TFL RB32-Lichtfunktion B 5
To implement requirement 2. above, do the following (this is a repeat of my previous suggestion): - For Leuchte2SL VLB10 and Leuchte3SL VRB21
Don
Thank you Don, I will try this last option. Happy to be doing the DRLs manually - it is better than nothing |
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Post by kaume on May 8, 2024 21:29:21 GMT
Bummer!!! I'm out of options - this is a very strange problem indeed!! My only remaining suggestion is that you continue to use your practice of switching the rotary light switch to the Public lighting position. I admit that this fix is very inelegant, but I'm totally stumped!
So, to make my "inelegant fix" work AND to achieve your Objective-1, we need to tell the DRL Leuchte-sets to operate in the following manner: - When the rotary light switch is on the position - the DRL lamps = full illumination
- When the rotary light switch is on the AUTO, or position - the DRL lamps = 30% illumination
To implement requirement 1. above, do the following: - Change the current setting not active to Standlicht vorn (Positionslicht; Begrenzungslicht) for the following channels:
- ENG116938-ENG115914-Leuchte2SL VLB10-Lichtfunktion B 2
- ENG116939-ENG115933-Leuchte3SL VRB21-Lichtfunktion B 3
- ENG116940-ENG115952-Leuchte4TFL LB4-Lichtfunktion B 4
- ENG116941-ENG115971-Leuchte5 TFL RB32-Lichtfunktion B 5
To implement requirement 2. above, do the following (this is a repeat of my previous suggestion): - For Leuchte2SL VLB10 and Leuchte3SL VRB21
Don Hi Don, I am back with new findings regarding this DRL issue. Apparently, the 2nd objective was achieved, but not the first one. What happened, in the many programming iterations that we did, we succeeded with enabling the DRLs on auto mode, and in the process a DRL setting option was placed in the head unit interface of the car, but in a disabled state (see snip below) - I found this while I was trying to check for the state of my cornering lights settings, which are also not working. I found out that the DRL option was not ticked, and when I checked the box to enable, the magic worked.  Now, the objective 1, (reducing the brightness when the Main Low Beam lamps are on) is what yet to be achieved. |
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on May 9, 2024 0:06:07 GMT
OK - well-done with Objective 2 !! So, I'm not sure what the current coding-state is for the 4 x Leuchte-sets that drive the DRLs below? - Leuchte2SL VLB10
- Leuchte3SL VRB21
- Leuchte4TFL LB4
- Leuchte5 TFL RB32
Did you implement the coding changes that I suggested for Objective 1 in my last reply? I deliberately designed the Objective 1 changes so that both Objective 1 and Objective 2 could coexist together.
Don
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Post by kaume on May 9, 2024 5:49:36 GMT
OK - well-done with Objective 2 !! So, I'm not sure what the current coding-state is for the 4 x Leuchte-sets that drive the DRLs below? - Leuchte2SL VLB10
- Leuchte3SL VRB21
- Leuchte4TFL LB4
- Leuchte5 TFL RB32
Did you implement the coding changes that I suggested for Objective 1 in my last reply? I deliberately designed the Objective 1 changes so that both Objective 1 and Objective 2 could coexist together.
Don
Yes, I did implement the changes. See the attached admap for your review on the current settings. adpmap-09-5Q0-937-087-L_WVWZZZAUZEP549038-2....CSV (136.41 KB) |
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on May 9, 2024 22:08:16 GMT
Yes, I did implement the changes hmm......... not really!! I say again!!
........ to achieve your Objective-1, we need to tell the DRL Leuchte-sets to operate in the following manner: - When the rotary light switch is on the position - the DRL lamps = full illumination
- When the rotary light switch is on the AUTO, or position - the DRL lamps = 30% illumination
......... do the following: - Change the current setting not active to Standlicht vorn (Positionslicht; Begrenzungslicht) for the following channels:
- ENG116938-ENG115914-Leuchte2SL VLB10-Lichtfunktion B 2
- ENG116939-ENG115933-Leuchte3SL VRB21-Lichtfunktion B 3
- ENG116940-ENG115952-Leuchte4TFL LB4-Lichtfunktion B 4
- ENG116941-ENG115971-Leuchte5 TFL RB32-Lichtfunktion B 5
And for some unknown reason, your latest admap shows that you have applied a right-side Leuchte-command to a left-side Leuchte-set. Leuchte-programming is flexible - but it does require careful coding!
Revert the setting back for:
- ENG116940-ENG115956-Leuchte4TFL LB4-Lichtfunktion D 4 > change from Parking light right to Parklicht links (beidseitiges Parklicht aktiviert li & re)
So, to be clear - with the changes above, the operation of the rotary light switch will be as stated in points 1. and 2. of my May 3 2024 reply. There has been some confusion in our discussions - if your understanding of "Objective 1" is NOT the same as mine - do NOT make these changes. The reason for my caution is because with "Objective 2" being achieved, I'm not sure why you want "Objective 1".
By this I mean that with the DRL lamps now working OK during daytime - switching the rotary light switch to the position in daytime (which is your current practice) achieves NOTHING!! In fact, the coding changes for "Objective 1" is a disadvantage because FULL illumination of the DRL lamps in the position means that this lighting set-up is redundant and it can ONLY be used during daytime.
So, in summary - bottom line = "Objective 1" means that you have lost the option to use the option at night AND you have gained NO advantage during daytime because the DRLs now work OK during daytime !! What am I missing? Don
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