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Post by syxxty on Jan 31, 2017 19:09:22 GMT
There are a ton of OBD II bluetooth readers out there that can only use the generic OBDII protocol to read/clear faults, Freeze Frame data, and publicly published telemetry. OBD eleven is able to read and manipulate VAG specific information. It seems relatively trivial to expand OBD eleven's functionality to include generic OBDII capabilities to read information from other car manufactures.
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Post by muurman on Jan 31, 2017 19:31:19 GMT
I agree. And if the obd dongle of obdeleven can do it please make support for the bluetooth ebay dongles.
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Post by Matthew on Jan 31, 2017 22:26:02 GMT
please make support for the bluetooth ebay dongles. NO WAY. This is how the hard working team of OBDeleven makes their money. OBDeleven is proprietary software with the OBD dongle. VCDS / VAG-COM is expensive for a reason. These tools is about the same quality equipment that your dealer would be using. The OBDeleven would be giving away their hard work for FREE if they allowed eBay dongles to work with this application. Also: eBay dongles only support OBD2 protocols not CAN and UDS like what the VCDS and OBDeleven dongle supports. |
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Post by mafketel on Mar 4, 2017 3:33:37 GMT
so sidetracked with generic dongle q .... The original q is interesting though..... I am looking high and low for the readiness bits and can't find them, it is in the generic obd2 info so please let me see if the car is ready for a smog test pretty please  |
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Post by mafketel on Mar 4, 2017 15:20:54 GMT
Sorry i just saw that the version that is on my phone now has the readiness tab in the engine module thnx ps there is a spelling error.... it says readnss thnx for adding that p.s. it would be great if you would click on one off the monitors and it would explain in detail what it it is and how to test it just added bonus, although the test procedure would be really great. |
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Post by Matthew on Mar 4, 2017 16:26:45 GMT
it is in the generic obd2 info Generic OBD2 values would be unique for each non-VAG manufacturer and also for each country/market/region that vehicle is released in. Just for example: the secondary O2 sensor readings for a vehicle (and ECU) released for the Californian market is more sensitive (to trigger an SMOG fault code) then that of a vehicle released in Jamaica where smog tests aren't done (once there is no visible smoke out the tail-pipe). Setting the wide-open-throttle target lamda at 12.5:1 gives the best possible horsepower in a 4-stroke Otto cycle gasoline engine at the expense of more fumes produced (as opposed to the stoichometric 14.7:1 that ensures that all the fuel is completely burnt. For this reason, you will see the same engine released in different markets/regions making different power. It has nothing (much) to do with the temperature, dyno or fuel quality used. |
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Post by mafketel on Mar 4, 2017 16:37:37 GMT
I care if the car is polluting or not ..... but for now I only need to know if i can go to the test station and pass or not pass. And i need to do that before the valves are dirty again If the car has all the flags set as ready, it passes. That is all the info i need for now and as I said there is a new option in the current obdeleven app that shows the readiness of the car for a smog test (which for newer cars is just and obd2 test, no tailpipe being sniffed) |
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Post by Matthew on Mar 4, 2017 16:47:21 GMT
The presence of fault codes for the engine-01 module is all you need to see then for a SMOG test.
If your car fails SMOG then you would have an error for the catalytic converter or either O2 sensor. That's all you need to see.
Edit: There is also the EVAP system to be checked as well.
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Post by Guestt on Apr 22, 2017 8:55:58 GMT
Any news on this? Seems silly i need to buy another obd reader to read fault codes from our other cars. It should not be too difficult to add this functionality to obdeleven dongle since every 5$ chinese garbage dongle can read generic obd codes.
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Post by Matthew on Apr 22, 2017 16:34:20 GMT
since every 5$ chinese garbage dongle can read generic obd codes. That's why they are as you described ($5 garbage). OBDeleven is made (in my opinion) specifically for the vehicles in the Volkswagen Automotive Group (VAG), so it would be devaluing the OBDeleven device to make it interact with other vehicles that use common OBD2 protocols. What you are asking is like asking the world's best surgeon to troubleshoot a simple paper-cut. It CAN be done, but it isn't worth the effort, energy and time to do it when there are other avenues to getting it done. I'll answer your question another way by saying that OBDeleven does OBD2 -protocols, but only for vehicles in the Volkswagen Automotive group. Hardware-wise, it isn't like your typical ELM-327 that you would find in the $5 garbage you were referring to earlier. Even the great VCDS has a "menu" for generic OBD2, but they don't waste time supporting that as it as each manufacturer has their own protocols. One error code may mean something for 1 manufacturer, when it is slightly different for another. There is OBD (for General Motors), JOBD for Japanese manufacturers, and EOBD for the European market. If OBDeleven mis-diagnosed something from one manufacturer and translated it for the error code of another, then you as the customer would hold OBDeleven liable. It's best for OBDeleven to continue as it is, and stick with VAG where you can use K-line, CAN for UDS (and you know for sure you are working with the correct protocols and can access all adaptation channels and MVB's. |
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Post by AnotherGuest on Sept 15, 2017 14:54:35 GMT
I agree that reading and clearing generic OBDII codes would be very useful. I don't need OBDeleven to interpret the code for any manufacturer, just display "P0301". I can google it myself. I don't see that as taking any value away from OBDeleven, it only adds value for what should be a simple change. There could just be a new vehicle called "Generic OBD" that only reads and resets those codes. It already supports the protocols. For someone considering buying an OBDeleven, knowing you can use it on other vehicles seems like a value add.
To continue your surgeon analogy; OBDeleven is already identifying papercuts, but only on 20% of the German population. We are asking to identify papercuts on everyone else.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2017 15:11:05 GMT
I have to agree with Matthew for most of us (who seem to use both VCDS and OBD11) we want the development team to focus on the VAG Cars and getting the bugs sorted, not on making a generic reader that you can buy for next to nothing already.
In my opinion the same is true for doing all the nice screen stuff like Torque Pro, I personally want this tool to enable me to manage and adapt my VAG car.
There are still a number of very important changes that a number of users have been waiting for (MK4 Throttle Adaption for example).
This is a great little tool and there is a lot to do to make it better but for me this type of change is a distraction.
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Post by Matthew on Feb 12, 2022 2:02:13 GMT
Now that OBDeleven now scans non-VAG cars for generic OBD2 codes, I now notice that I no longer see the feature since I was trying to demonstrate the feature recently.
I remember where I used to go to an imaginary module #33 to see the feature. Was something changed that I was unaware of?
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