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Post by mesiste on Nov 22, 2019 17:32:53 GMT
Hi, can anyone tell me how to code my led headlamps please? I’ve upgraded to led but they will not stay on and I get error messages. 2013 golf TSi
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Post by mesiste on Nov 24, 2019 17:54:42 GMT
Can anyone help?
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2018gti
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Post by 2018gti on Nov 24, 2019 18:47:14 GMT
Hi mesiste, I would look under Central Electrics (module 09) and go to the entries Leuchte6ABL (left low beam) and Leuchte7ABL (right low beam). The first setting under each of those is "Lasttyp". What is yours currently set to? You could change yours to "5 - LED Abblendlicht" and see how that goes.
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on Nov 24, 2019 23:12:25 GMT
^^^ Mesiste - thanks for the PM - what 2018gti said above seems best advice - but it really depends on how the wiring between halogen and LEDs was managed in retrofit
Don
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Post by mesiste on Nov 25, 2019 18:38:03 GMT
Hi mesiste, I would look under Central Electrics (module 09) and go to the entries Leuchte6ABL (left low beam) and Leuchte7ABL (right low beam). The first setting under each of those is "Lasttyp". What is yours currently set to? You could change yours to "5 - LED Abblendlicht" and see how that goes.
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Post by mesiste on Nov 25, 2019 18:41:28 GMT
Hi, thank you very much for your reply but i think you've suggested the tweak for low beams! I need to code my high beams, low beams are working fine as they are xenon.
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Post by mesiste on Nov 25, 2019 18:50:08 GMT
Sorry i thought i had mentioned that in my post!
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Post by 2018gti on Nov 26, 2019 2:42:28 GMT
Ah OK, no problem. In that case just check these entries instead: Leuchte8FL and Leuchte9FL, and see what you find. Like Don mentioned, I suggested "5- LED Abblendlicht" but it all depends on the nature of your LEDs (e.g. how much current flows through them). Another option could be to set it to "43 - allgemein LED", which I think means simply "General/universal LED".
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Post by mesiste on Nov 26, 2019 5:51:42 GMT
Thanks, i will try that today a couple of other things you may be able to help me with if you dont mind?
1. My mirrors only unfold once i start the car, they fold up when i arm the alarm with the key but dont unfold when i dissarm the alarm.
2. Also is tgere any coding to widen thd bandwidth on my radio? The car came from China and tgey dont use ths same FM bandwidth as the UK.
Appreciate any help and ill let you know if the highbeam fix works😁
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Post by mesiste on Nov 26, 2019 7:45:44 GMT
Hi, i just tried the high beam coding but i can only find Leuchte8FL RB39 and Leucht9FL RB2 so i changed both of them in to the codes you suggested but nothing changed! Am i looking in the right place? Control sysyems- Central electrics- adaptations?
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on Nov 26, 2019 9:05:35 GMT
mesiste: OK - one of the problems that most of us here have when trying to respond to questions is understanding the situation. You said in your first post "can anyone tell me how to code my led headlamps please? I’ve upgraded to led but they will not stay on". So. While I'm sure that you know exactly what changed - your statement can be read in a number of ways. I (and i suspect 2018gti) assume that you had halogen main beam lamps originally - which means that the lamps were H15 15/55 (PGJ23t-1)and that you simply changed the lamps without modifying the headlight fittings. If so, the appropriate Leuchte-sets are indeed Leuchte8FL RB39 and Leucht9FL RB2. Now comes the difficult part - because 3rd party retrofit lamps vary greatly in their performance and their characteristics, it's difficult to be precise.
You could just try ALL of the LED settings, or you could try the standard "shutter" setting that is normally applied to HID fittings (on totally different Leuchte-sets):2 - shutter; Diagnostic sensor for 'LED low' The other change that you could try is increasing the value of Dimmwert AB to 127, but only when you have selected a "LED" lasttyp setting. But as I have said - this is just trial-and-error Don
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on Nov 26, 2019 9:34:02 GMT
Also is there any coding to widen the bandwidth on my radio? The car came from China and they don't use the same FM bandwidth as the UK. 😁 You can alter the bandwidth for your country's FM and AM radio through the following long codingscreen on the hex5F module:
Don
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Post by mesiste on Nov 26, 2019 14:31:01 GMT
Hi, the radio fix worked great, thank you. I tried all the coding you suggested for the high beams with no joy, they now flash once and an error comes on the dash. But more worryingly my rear passenger side indicator has stopped working now! Is there a way of going back to original settings in case I’ve accidentally changed something?
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Post by vwjap on Nov 26, 2019 14:44:26 GMT
Look through the history of the 09 module (on the module list where you press “adaptions” if you scroll down you will see history) you don’t need to be connected to the car to do this, you can get at it going through the garage
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Post by mesiste on Nov 27, 2019 6:43:41 GMT
Hi, I’ve changed everything back but still no rear passenger side indicator! Can you tell me where the coding for for rear indicators is so I can see if the passenger side matches driver side please?
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on Nov 27, 2019 10:14:46 GMT
^^^ so, assuming that you are not an American,the passenger Leuchte-set for the rear turn-signals depends on what side of the road you drive (not surprisingly)!
And how the Leuchte-set is programmed depends on what type of lamps are in the tail light fittings (not surprisingly). I know neither of these two things until you provide advice-please
Don
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Post by mesiste on Nov 27, 2019 10:21:16 GMT
I’m in the UK so it’s right hand drive and I have the standard halogen rear lamps installed.
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on Nov 27, 2019 10:31:40 GMT
Leuchte18BLK HLA60 Left Rear Turn Indicator Lasttyp 18 > 12 - Blinkleuchten Lampendefektbitposition 18 > 8 Fehlerort mittleres Byte DTC-DFCC 18 > 16 Lichtfunktion A 18 > Blinken links Hellphase Lichtfunktion B 18 > not active Dimmwert AB 18 > 100 Lichtansteuerung HD AB 18 > Always Lichtfunktion C 18 > not active Lichtfunktion D 18 > not active Dimmwert CD 18 > 0 Dimming Direction CD 18 > maximize Lichtfunktion E 18 > not active Lichtfunktion F 18 > not active Dimmwert EF 18 > 0 Dimming Direction EF 18 > maximize Lichtfunktion G 18 > not active Lichtfunktion H 18 > not active Dimmwert GH 18 > 0 Dimming Direction GH 18 > maximize
Leuchte19BLK HRC31 Right Rear Turn Indicator Lasttyp 19 > 12 - Blinkleuchten Lampendefektbitposition 19 > 8 Fehlerort mittleres Byte DTC-DFCC 19 > 16 Lichtfunktion A 19 > Blinken rechts Hellphase Lichtfunktion B 19 > not active Dimmwert AB 19 > 100 Lichtansteuerung HD AB 19 > Always Lichtfunktion C 19 > not active Lichtfunktion D 19 not active Dimmwert CD 19 > 0 Dimming Direction CD 19 > maximize Lichtfunktion E 19 > not active Lichtfunktion F 19 > not active Dimmwert EF 19 > 0 Dimming Direction EF 19 > maximize Lichtfunktion G 19 > not active Lichtfunktion H 19 > not active Dimmwert GH 19 > 0 Dimming Direction GH 19 > maximize
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Post by mesiste on Nov 27, 2019 11:12:20 GMT
Perfect, you are a star, thank you so much. Now any other ideas on the high beam issue? Also my mirrors don’t fold out until i start the car but they fold in upon locking via the fob! Do you know how I can get them to fold out when I unlock with the fob? Sorry to be a pain, but as you can probably tell I’m new to all this!
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Post by 2018gti on Nov 29, 2019 21:07:49 GMT
So, I would try checking the 'Dimmwert' values in Leuchte8FL and 9FL and set them to 127 if they aren't already.
edit: not all of them actually. If you could paste what you have already we can take a look.
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Post by mesiste on Nov 30, 2019 6:11:19 GMT
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on Nov 30, 2019 12:44:55 GMT
^^^^That Leuchte-set is not for high-beam lamp - it's a Parking light lamp on the left side of the car. Clearly your car doesn't use the factory standard arrangement for halogen mk7 Golf RoW.
Please answer ALL the following questions: what type of car is it? in what country? when you said in your first post that you "upgraded to LED" - what was the original type of headlights? - Where did you source the LED headlights?
- How did you connect the new fittings to the old loom?
Don
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Post by mesiste on Nov 30, 2019 16:04:22 GMT
Hi, 1. Golf mk7 tsi (2013) 2. I’m in the UK but the car was imported from Japan. 3. The original lamps were xenon adaptive lights with single U shaped DRL's 4. The aftermarket headlights came from AliExpress they are mk7.5 copies with xenon low beam led drl’s and led high beams 5. Connected with adaptor plug also supplied by AliExpress. Everything works perfect except for the led high beam!
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on Nov 30, 2019 21:00:11 GMT
Hi, 1. Golf mk7 tsi (2013) 2. I’m in the UK but the car was imported from Japan. 3. The original lamps were xenon adaptive lights with single U shaped DRL's 4. The aftermarket headlights came from AliExpress they are mk7.5 copies with xenon low beam led drl’s and led high beams 5. Connected with adaptor plug also supplied by AliExpress. Everything works perfect except for the led high beam! ^^^ excellent- that's exactly the information that's needed to answer why stuff has happened!!
And it entirely explains your observations: the Leuchte8FL and 9FL Leuchte-sets don't apply to high-beam lamps in your car - both 2018gti and I had incorrectly assumed that your car was factory fitted with incandescent headlight assemblies!
So, a couple of points that I need to make from your table of answers: First - I'll share a little secret with you but you must not tell anyone else. Manufacturers of 3rd party headlight fittings ALWAYS "tell porkies" (to use a UK vernacular) when they claim that their products are OEM- they are not!
Second - the use of a "adapter plug" is concerning because it has the effect of modifying the factory assignment of lamps to the pins on the central electrics module and each Leuchte-set individually controls a specific pin on this module.
With these points as caveats. I suspect that the original arrangement on your factory built headlight assemblies was to use the one HID lamp on each side of the car for both high and low beam.The High-beam function was enabled by shifting a set of "shutters" in the headlight assembly so as to modify the reflector characteristics to produce a "higher beam". I have no idea how your Alliexpress fittings accommodate the high-beam function, but in factory built HID assemblies on MQB platform vehicles like the mk7, the Leuchte-sets that control the shutters are not surprisingly called: Leuchte10SHUTTER LB23 (left-side) Leuchte11SHUTTER RB22 (right-side)
The factory programming for these Leuchte-sets normally is very simple because the Leuchte-sets usually have a single purpose. The active parts of the Leuchte-set will be like this
Lasttyp > 2 - Shutter; Diagnosesensierung für 'LED low' Lichtfunktion A >Fernlicht, rechts/links Lichtfunktion B > Lichthupe generell Dimmwert AB > 127
So I suspect that the dimmwert AB value is already 127 on your car. You could try modifying the lasttyp channel to a LED setting that looks appropriate from the list available - I guess?
Don
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Post by mesiste on Dec 2, 2019 7:29:34 GMT
Thanks for your detailed response, so I’m going to try and code them as you suggest but one question first do I leave the rest of the values as they are in the picture I posted? I.e Fehlerort mittleres etc.
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on Dec 2, 2019 11:24:36 GMT
^^^^ as I have already said - the 19 x adaptation channels in your picture are the wrong Leuchte-set. They have nothing to do with your high-beams because your car was factory fitted with HID headlights.
Don
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Post by mesiste on Dec 2, 2019 15:43:07 GMT
So you did, my mistake sorry. I’m going to try the coding later today and I’ll report back.
Cheers
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Post by mesiste on Dec 2, 2019 15:43:17 GMT
So you did, my mistake sorry. I’m going to try the coding later today and I’ll report back.
Cheers
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Post by G7D on Dec 3, 2019 17:10:06 GMT
1. My mirrors only unfold once i start the car, they fold up when i arm the alarm with the key but dont unfold when i dissarm the alarm. In case you haven't resolved this yet, go to Central Electrics (hex 09), enter the security access code 31347 and then go to Adaptations. Find the adaptation channel Access_Control 2-Signalisierung_Spiegelanklappung and set it to 'active'. Now your mirrors should unfold as soon as you unlock the car.
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Post by mesiste on Dec 3, 2019 20:51:04 GMT
Hi Don, unfortunately it did not work but the high beams do flash which is better than nothing, so I think I’ll have accept defeat. Thanks for your efforts though.
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